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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Some Recount Rules


    Arizona : automatic if less than 0.1%

    Georgia : by request if 1% or less

    Michigan : automatic if 2,000 votes or less

    Nevada : by request

    Pennsylvania : automatic if 0.5% or less

    Wisconsin : by request if 1% or less



    Hopefully we won't have to go through pregnant chads again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    His "run rate" is slipping though , he was running slightly ahead of the required pace , but he's dropped back below the required level.

    Biden should hold on , but it will be tight..

    Might be thankful for that 0.1% recount threshold yet.
    It seems it's actually improving there for Biden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,401 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    If the election count is killing you guys, can you just imagine what it's doing to Donald Trump? It must be like slow water torture for the man. He's went from victory, to a slow, but unstoppable dribble of votes that has eroded his majority for days on end. I can promise you all, that this is destroying him on the inside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Hopefully we won't have to go through pregnant chads again.
    I feel I learned something when I learned what a chad was. Knowledge like that is rare and wonderful. To know a chad, a hanging chad and a pregnant chad and their part in democracy is to know a universal truth: Punch the damn thing harder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,498 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    If the election count is killing you guys, can you just imagine what it's doing to Donald Trump? It must be like slow water torture for the man. He's went from victory, to a slow, but unstoppable dribble of votes that has eroded his majority for days on end. I can promise you all, that this is destroying him on the inside.

    https://twitter.com/VanityFair/status/1324852450109624322

    You could put that on pay-per-view. There'll be secret service agents tripping over each other to be rostered to work that day :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,353 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Kevin McCarthy has been vocal , but hedging his bets a little.

    The 1st ones to break ranks will be the freshly re-elected GOP Senators.

    They've just been given another 6 year stint , Trump can't touch them win or lose.

    If I was a GOP house or Senator due for re-election in 2022 I'd probably be hedging too , just in case he managed to get back in.

    They are all hedging really. Hawley has been vocal on integrity issues, but isn't saying its stolen. Think Cotton adopting a similar tone.

    Those two along with other 2024 hopefuls like Crenshaw and Haley all adopting a similar type tone "wait for all the votes be counted" ,,"trump ran a great race" etc as clearly trying to avoid the wrath of Trump but not totally look like idiots trying to defend the indefensible.

    Its a tricky one for them, they want to run in 2024, but know if Trump SR wakes up one morning in a bad moon he can sink their campaign easily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    If the election count is killing you guys, can you just imagine what it's doing to Donald Trump? It must be like slow water torture for the man. He's went from victory, to a slow, but unstoppable dribble of votes that has eroded his majority for days on end. I can promise you all, that this is destroying him on the inside.

    Yeah, Thoughts and Prayers!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    If the election count is killing you guys, can you just imagine what it's doing to Donald Trump? It must be like slow water torture for the man. He's went from victory, to a slow, but unstoppable dribble of votes that has eroded his majority for days on end. I can promise you all, that this is destroying him on the inside.
    I called it death by one hundred thousand cuts when his lead in PA dropped to 100k. Hours went by as the margins were nibbled away bit by bit. And it was inevitable. We all knew. He knew. Must have been fun in the WH watching that. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Great to see Trump / the Republicans do so well, especially in the Senate.

    Haven't had a chance to catch up on the thread but given that so many were of the view that Trump had no chance, am at least hoping to see a few mea culpas and an admitance that it was a poor call.

    It was never in doubt Trump would have a strong show and that he had not lost his base (as many had suggested) due to his "mishandling" of COVID. On the contrary, he had more votes in 2020 than 2016 and more of the Black and Hispanic vote also, despite the non-stop false absurd claims that he was a racist dog-whistling to Neo-Nazis.

    Anyway, with regards to the voting:

    Some US Potal Service Whistleblowers have come forward to Project Veritas and said they were either asked, or witnessed others being asked, to backdate ballots so they would be eligible to be counted:

    https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1324787243135938570

    Tip of the iceberg, but would be interesting to find out just how many of these fraudulent votes went through in this manner, and especially with regards to any of the 4am vote dumps.

    Twitter, of course, had their thumb firmly on the scales in the run up to this election, doing whatever they could to suppress the Trump vote by amplifying suppressive polls and dampening (to the point of extension) any stories which showed Biden in a bad light (him having lied about speaing with Hunter re his overseas business dealings etc). Well they are not letting up and today removed the autocomplete on #MailFraud that had been trending for the previous 48 hours.

    Was great to see that the Trafalgar Polls I posted on the thread here, and also in CA, were almost as accurate as in 2016, despite them being sneered at and mocked:


    https://twitter.com/RobertCahaly/status/1324108631726501891

    Many, like in 2016, referred to the MSM amplified Polls that had Biden well clear as merely being inaccurate, but I'm not sure about that, as I believe in many cases it was much more sinister than that and one can't help but wonder if fraudulent voting is all that prevented the Trafalgar polls from being spot on once again. I guess time, as ever, will tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,353 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    They are all hedging really. Hawley has been vocal on integrity issues, but isn't saying its stolen. Think Cotton adopting a similar tone.

    Those two along with other 2024 hopefuls like Crenshaw and Haley all adopting a similar type tone "wait for all the votes be counted" ,,"trump ran a great race" etc as clearly trying to avoid the wrath of Trump but not totally look like idiots trying to defend the indefensible.

    Its a tricky one for them, they want to run in 2024, but know if Trump SR wakes up one morning in a bad moon he can sink their campaign easily.

    as I was saying.

    https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1324785764237017088


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭Zak Flaps


    Rjd2 wrote: »

    This lunatic believes in QAnon.

    (MTG I mean)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭The Iron Giant


    3500 net ballots to Biden in PA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭Midlife


    Great to see Trump / the Republicans do so well, especially in the Senate.

    Haven't had a chance to catch up on the thread but given that so many were of the view that Trump had no chance, am at least hoping to see a few mea culpas and an admitance that it was a poor call.

    It was never in doubt Trump would have a strong show and that he had not lost his base (as many had suggested) due to his "mishandling" of COVID. On the contrary, he had more votes in 2020 than 2016 and more of the Black and Hispanic vote also, despite the non-stop false absurd claims that he was a racist dog-whistling to Neo-Nazis.

    Anyway, with regards to the voting:

    Some US Potal Service Whistleblowers have come forward to Project Veritas and said they were either asked, or witnessed others being asked, to backdate ballots so they would be eligible to be counted:

    https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1324787243135938570

    Tip of the iceberg, but would be interesting to find out just how many of these fraudulent votes went through in this manner, and especially with regards to any of the 4am vote dumps.

    Twitter, of course, had their thumb firmly on the scales in the run up to this election, doing whatever they could to suppress the Trump vote by amplifying suppressive polls and dampening (to the point of extension) any stories which showed Biden in a bad light (him having lied about speaing with Hunter re his overseas business dealings etc). Well they are not letting up and today removed the autocomplete on #MailFraud that had been trending for the previous 48 hours.

    Was great to see that the Trafalgar Polls I posted on the thread here, and also in CA, were almost as accurate as in 2016, despite them being sneered at and mocked:


    https://twitter.com/RobertCahaly/status/1324108631726501891

    Many, like in 2016, referred to the MSM amplified Polls that had Biden well clear as merely being inaccurate, but I'm not sure about that, as I believe in many cases it was much more sinister than that and one can't help but wonder if fraudulent voting is all that prevented the Trafalgar polls from being spot on once again. I guess time, as ever, will tell.

    Yes, one can't help but wonder about fraudulent voting.

    Jesus, give it a rest.

    There's no conspiracy. Trump got out the vote in a way nobody expected. There WAS a blue wave but there was a red wave at the same time.

    There's no conspiracy, there's no fraud. Trump just lost marginally.

    Of course feel free to donate all your money to team trump to help them get to the bottom of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Great to see Trump / the Republicans do so well, especially in the Senate.


    Many, like in 2016, referred to the MSM amplified Polls that had Biden well clear as merely being inaccurate, but I'm not sure about that, as I believe in many cases it was much more sinister than that and one can't help but wonder if fraudulent voting is all that prevented the Trafalgar polls from being spot on once again. I guess time, as ever, will tell.

    Pete, can I ask why you think the Republican senate vote held up so well if the votes were fraudulent? How do you square that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,642 ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Great to see Trump / the Republicans do so well

    Cracking performance so far. Really looking forward to seeing how Trump reacts to the ending.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Project Veritas again I see. Never was astro-turf more heavily worn. Not sure how anyone can quote that bunch with a straight face or a hinged mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    So I suppose he will just pretend he hasn't lost for the next 2 months then?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    From a quick google almost 7,000 US troops have lost their lives in action since 2001. That's 19 years. I'm open to correction on that if you find more accurate figures.

    Over 200,000 have died, so far, on American soil due to the Corona Virus. The real number is supposedly much higher due to the underreporting of numbers, but let's say it's right, we'll say 200,000.

    Many of those could have been easily prevented had Trump taken appropriate action. Obama left him a pandemic playbook, one that was tried and tested. He chose not to use that or take any real measures to stop the spread of the virus.

    He may not have started any war, but he has more American blood on his hands than any other US president in recent history.
    Excess mortality is about 300,000.

    Unless there is a road to Damascus conversion half a million Americans will have died from Covid caught on Trump's watch. And a legacy of lots of spreaders. Some epidemiologist will be able to work out how many people died by not following what the Europeans did. While the US is not an island it could very easily have self isolated and put pressure on Mexico and Canada to follow it's lead on quarantines and lockdowns. Of course that would have required leadership rather than populism.

    Yes it's mostly old people who die but a lot of people haven't fully recovered from "Long Covid" and there's no telling what the future health costs will be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Great to see Trump / the Republicans do so well, especially in the Senate.

    Haven't had a chance to catch up on the thread but given that so many were of the view that Trump had no chance, am at least hoping to see a few mea culpas and an admitance that it was a poor call.

    It was never in doubt Trump would have a strong show and that he had not lost his base (as many had suggested) due to his "mishandling" of COVID. On the contrary, he had more votes in 2020 than 2016 and more of the Black and Hispanic vote also, despite the non-stop false absurd claims that he was a racist dog-whistling to Neo-Nazis.

    Anyway, with regards to the voting:

    Some US Potal Service Whistleblowers have come forward to Project Veritas and said they were either asked, or witnessed others being asked, to backdate ballots so they would be eligible to be counted:

    https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1324787243135938570

    Tip of the iceberg, but would be interesting to find out just how many of these fraudulent votes went through in this manner, and especially with regards to any of the 4am vote dumps.

    Twitter, of course, had their thumb firmly on the scales in the run up to this election, doing whatever they could to suppress the Trump vote by amplifying suppressive polls and dampening (to the point of extension) any stories which showed Biden in a bad light (him having lied about speaing with Hunter re his overseas business dealings etc). Well they are not letting up and today removed the autocomplete on #MailFraud that had been trending for the previous 48 hours.

    Was great to see that the Trafalgar Polls I posted on the thread here, and also in CA, were almost as accurate as in 2016, despite them being sneered at and mocked:


    https://twitter.com/RobertCahaly/status/1324108631726501891

    Many, like in 2016, referred to the MSM amplified Polls that had Biden well clear as merely being inaccurate, but I'm not sure about that, as I believe in many cases it was much more sinister than that and one can't help but wonder if fraudulent voting is all that prevented the Trafalgar polls from being spot on once again. I guess time, as ever, will tell.

    Pete! Welcome back! You've been sorely missed!!

    By the way, as you say you haven't had a chance to catch up on the thread, here's a quick summary:

    Yer man you've spent 4 years excusing is toootally banjaxed! He's a busted flush who's hiding behind barriers in the White House and is rage-tweeting phlegm to his followers. And the People are grateful that he FINALLY built a double wall. It's around the White House! It's making a great canvas for all the People to express their artistic tendencies.. There's a common theme in the artwork. Among the many thousands of cards and well-wishes posted on his wall, I think the term "LOSER!" is figuring most prominently.

    Apart from that, there's not much been happening really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,039 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    They are all hedging really. Hawley has been vocal on integrity issues, but isn't saying its stolen. Think Cotton adopting a similar tone.

    Those two along with other 2024 hopefuls like Crenshaw and Haley all adopting a similar type tone "wait for all the votes be counted" ,,"trump ran a great race" etc as clearly trying to avoid the wrath of Trump but not totally look like idiots trying to defend the indefensible.

    Its a tricky one for them, they want to run in 2024, but know if Trump SR wakes up one morning in a bad moon he can sink their campaign easily.

    Speaking of Crenshaw did anyone of ye see his tweets to the Qanon congresswoman who’s just got elected ? He more or less told her to start acting like a member of Congress. It’s getting snarky within the GOP ranks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,353 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Zak Flaps wrote: »
    This lunatic believes in QAnon.

    (MTG I mean)

    Of course she is awful.

    However its going to be fascinating/hilarious watching how 2024 hopefuls handle the Trumpers.

    Crenshaw has been pretty cynical of mail in voting and has said every irregularity should be checked in court but purity tests .....:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,401 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    I called it death by one hundred thousand cuts when his lead in PA dropped to 100k. Hours went by as the margins were nibbled away bit by bit. And it was inevitable. We all knew. He knew. Must have been fun in the WH watching that. :)
    I just have vision of the last days of the Furhrer in the Reichsbunker, epic Downfall-style stuff!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    So I suppose he will just pretend he hasn't lost for the next 2 months then?
    Do what the Portuguese did with Salazar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    So I suppose he will just pretend he hasn't lost for the next 2 months then?
    Yes. Although I'm not sure I like this idea for a reboot of The Truman Show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,353 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Speaking of Crenshaw did anyone of ye see his tweets to the Qanon congresswoman who’s just got elected ? He more or less told her to start acting like a member of Congress. It’s getting snarky within the GOP ranks.

    Doesn't she have a really safe house seat?

    I think their is only 2 Qanon people in the house but they are going to be very loud for the next 2 years. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭Movementarian


    Great to see Trump / the Republicans do so well, especially in the Senate.

    Haven't had a chance to catch up on the thread but given that so many were of the view that Trump had no chance, am at least hoping to see a few mea culpas and an admitance that it was a poor call.

    It was never in doubt Trump would have a strong show and that he had not lost his base (as many had suggested) due to his "mishandling" of COVID. On the contrary, he had more votes in 2020 than 2016 and more of the Black and Hispanic vote also, despite the non-stop false absurd claims that he was a racist dog-whistling to Neo-Nazis.

    Anyway, with regards to the voting:

    Some US Potal Service Whistleblowers have come forward to Project Veritas and said they were either asked, or witnessed others being asked, to backdate ballots so they would be eligible to be counted:

    https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1324787243135938570

    Tip of the iceberg, but would be interesting to find out just how many of these fraudulent votes went through in this manner, and especially with regards to any of the 4am vote dumps.

    Twitter, of course, had their thumb firmly on the scales in the run up to this election, doing whatever they could to suppress the Trump vote by amplifying suppressive polls and dampening (to the point of extension) any stories which showed Biden in a bad light (him having lied about speaing with Hunter re his overseas business dealings etc). Well they are not letting up and today removed the autocomplete on #MailFraud that had been trending for the previous 48 hours.

    Was great to see that the Trafalgar Polls I posted on the thread here, and also in CA, were almost as accurate as in 2016, despite them being sneered at and mocked:


    https://twitter.com/RobertCahaly/status/1324108631726501891

    Many, like in 2016, referred to the MSM amplified Polls that had Biden well clear as merely being inaccurate, but I'm not sure about that, as I believe in many cases it was much more sinister than that and one can't help but wonder if fraudulent voting is all that prevented the Trafalgar polls from being spot on once again. I guess time, as ever, will tell.

    My brothers cousin heard from a source that Trump was seen in a Hiace van delivering a load of ballots to a count centre in Flordia, it was just enough ballots to win the state too weirdly.

    Hmm whats that? Proof? Evidence? Not needed pal, just the accusation is enough proof of voter fraud being real don't you know. I mean just because so far all the fraud is in states that Trump is losing and none in the ones he won doesn't mean anything! Does it?....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,936 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~



    Some US Potal Service Whistleblowers have come forward to Project Veritas and said they were either asked, or witnessed others being asked, to backdate ballots so they would be eligible to be counted:

    https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1324787243135938570

    I just watched your video - the whistleblower specifically says they were NOT given any indication that these would be post dated. He just personally worried about it anyway, regardless, despite no order from anyone to do that.

    The specific line; “The postmaster and the supervisor did not say that we’re going to backdate them”.

    So they were simply asked to separate any of those late ballots from all other mail. And that’s it. Which is all as it should be. Everything else is his own paranoia, which he admits.

    Seems like nothing to see here...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Biden's lead in PA has just jumped to just under 20k. Slight drop in AZ to a lead of 38.5k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    It seems it's actually improving there for Biden.

    Seems Trump now has to overperform in votes later from Maricopa County and needs about 60%. Those votes due around 2am our time.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭Canice Picklington


    So I suppose he will just pretend he hasn't lost for the next 2 months then?

    Weekend* At Trumpie's

    *11 of them


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