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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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    #4652
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,053 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Seems like an appropriate time to re-up this

    "Can the next poster here who says the Dems are stealing the election be told that

    1) he is Individual 1 in a campaign finance felony in 2016 and was not prosecuted purely because of an OLC memo but was found to direct Cohen to do so
    2) the vast majority of Trump's substantive 2020 court applications failed
    3) trump was impeached for trying to pressure a foreign country interfere in the US election
    4) trump went out the next day and invited China to do the same and
    5) now has charges pending for multiple violations of the Hatch Act

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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    #4653
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »
    The vote differential in PA is now 14,733. Am I right in saying that CNN are calling this when it reaches 15,000?

    35,000 seems to be the point they will call it. That figure moves Biden to outside the automatic recount margin.


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    #4654
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    StringerBell wrote: »
    I don't understand, I said what did you like about trump and his Presidency? What makes him a better candidate than Biden?

    Well from a rest of the World perspective (non-American) he refused to get dragged into any wars, which I believe he was under constant pressure to do, like every President. I wouldn't be surprised if Biden/Harris were engaged in war withing the first 18 months of their tenure.

    I believe Biden to be in stark cognitive decline after almost half a century in politics. I don't think he'll be making any decisions because I don't think he's capable of it. Whoever's behind him will be doing that.


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    #4655
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Irregularities in Michigan


    https://twitter.com/i/status/1324782215251824643


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    #4656
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    I don't mind being called on things, that's what it's about. I have no 'agenda' other than an Irish person who liked the outgoing President.



    Apparently he's going to speak. I'll link it up if/when he does.

    This is something that should be investigated by the US Postal Inspection Service, not used as a means of undermining Democracy. The USPIS has been around in various forms since Ben Franklin created surveyors in 1772. I suspect that the oldest Federal police service has more capacity and experience to deal with this than a hack like James O' Keeffe.


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    #4657
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Irish Praetorian wrote: »
    For having that opinion? Certainly not. It's an opinion different from my own but its yours, you're being polite about it, no issue.

    The problem is that what tends to happen (as with Brexit debates) is that people attempt to defend the opinion you hold not with facts and figures, but with things like naked falsehoods (the election was rigged), vapid cliches (ya'll have orange man derangement syndrome) or a very selective view of the facts (for example, claiming credit for a 30% GDP growth rate, ignoring the whole pandemic recession). There is plenty of good ground to make a case for Trump's policy, but most people will not do it.

    Fair enough Sir.


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    #4658
    Movementarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭Movementarian


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Irregularities in Michigan


    https://twitter.com/i/status/1324782215251824643

    Getting a clearer picture of why you were banned in the other thread alright.


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    #4659
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,053 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "This is the self preservation society"

    https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324782310160535553?s=19

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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    #4660
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Seems to me that Trump wants us all to be so bored by this (obv US not here), and will give out forever.

    Hopefully most are not taken in by this Narcissist's actions.

    Worst election since the hanging chads.


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    #4661
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭paul71


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Irregularities in Michigan


    https://twitter.com/i/status/1324782215251824643

    Who is the Trump War room twitter account run by?

    That is just a twitter dump, no evidence, nothing just Garbage.


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    #4662
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Movementarian wrote: »
    Getting a clearer picture of why you were banned in the other thread alright.

    I don't understand?


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    #4663
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭paul71


    paul71 wrote: »
    The source for that is James O'Keefe.

    He is a convicted criminal.

    He is a proven Liar.

    He has lost numerous lawsuits for publishing lies.

    He backed the author of the book that said the Sandy hook school shootings were a hoax.

    He receives money from the Trump campaign.

    V8 would you like to address this with a reliable source please?


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    #4664
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Well from a rest of the World perspective (non-American) he refused to get dragged into any wars, which I believe he was under constant pressure to do, like every President. I wouldn't be surprised if Biden/Harris were engaged in war withing the first 18 months of their tenure.

    I believe Biden to be in stark cognitive decline after almost half a century in politics. I don't think he'll be making any decisions because I don't think he's capable of it. Whoever's behind him will be doing that.

    From a quick google almost 7,000 US troops have lost their lives in action since 2001. That's 19 years. I'm open to correction on that if you find more accurate figures.

    Over 200,000 have died, so far, on American soil due to the Corona Virus. The real number is supposedly much higher due to the underreporting of numbers, but let's say it's right, we'll say 200,000.

    Many of those could have been easily prevented had Trump taken appropriate action. Obama left him a pandemic playbook, one that was tried and tested. He chose not to use that or take any real measures to stop the spread of the virus.

    He may not have started any war, but he has more American blood on his hands than any other US president in recent history.


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    #4665
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    paul71 wrote: »
    Who is the Trump War room twitter account run by?

    That is just a twitter dump, no evidence, nothing just Garbage.

    The account is irrelevant. Its the Republican party Chairsperson in Michigan who's making the claim.


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    #4666
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    everlast75 wrote: »
    "This is the self preservation society"

    https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1324782310160535553?s=19

    Are they fleeing to Argentina?


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    #4667
    Brussels Sprout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Yeah, that's very interesting. Thanks. However, it assumes State-wide spread of each block, whereas individual counties actually vary quite dramatically.

    I don't understand. These are raw numbers right - that contribute to the state's total? What difference does it matter what county they came from as long as we are seeing the raw numbers or am I missing something?


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    #4668
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    The account is irrelevant. Its the Republican party Chairsperson in Michigan who's making the claim.

    Sure you can update us when it's in the courts... Cause it's pretty irrelevant otherwise.


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    #4669
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Well from a rest of the World perspective (non-American) he refused to get dragged into any wars, which I believe he was under constant pressure to do, like every President. I wouldn't be surprised if Biden/Harris were engaged in war withing the first 18 months of their tenure.

    I believe Biden to be in stark cognitive decline after almost half a century in politics. I don't think he'll be making any decisions because I don't think he's capable of it. Whoever's behind him will be doing that.

    Your first paragraph, thanks. I don't see how that opinion would get you in trouble or burned at the stake anywhere even by people who disagree with you. The second paragraph though can get into murky water because even if someone accepts that perhaps Biden is in cognitive decline the obvious comparison to trump will not reflect well on trump. So lets not go there?

    So you think trump was good for the world outside of the US then more so than bad and you think that Biden will be worse for the rest of the world. Can you flesh that out a little bit more for me? What way has the world become a better place outside the US due to him other than the not starting a new war which you have mentioned already and how do you see Biden having a negative impact when he takes his position in January?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #4670
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭paul71


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    The account is irrelevant. Its the Republican party Chairsperson in Michigan who's making the claim.

    What claim? Where is the evidence he provided to back it up?


    Also on the first claim you posted about a post master.

    Do you believe that someone who supports the author of the Book saying the Sandy hook school shootings were a hoax, is a credible source now that you have been informed?


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    #4671
    Sorolla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Sorolla


    Biden will continue with Trumps policies:

    Buy American - sounds like “America first”

    He will keep interest rates low - it will cost a lot to pay back costs incurred during corona

    Low interest rates will lead to soaring stock markets

    So basically Trumpism will continue with a less charismatic man as President

    Everything’s stays as it was

    Trump will return in 2024


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    #4672
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    I'm sure you're going to be a quality contributor around here :rolleyes:

    He won't last long though, its kinda like the election. I'm curious to see how many posts he manages to get in before they all get deleted by the mighty ban hammer and disappear forever, likes trumps leads did. We were at 6 at the time of posting, I'll have the over/under at 11

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #4673
    Canice Picklington
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭Canice Picklington


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    The account is irrelevant. Its the Republican party Chairsperson in Michigan who's making the claim.

    The party of online conspiracy theorists and fantasists. Gemma O'Doherty types.


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    #4674
    Movementarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭Movementarian


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    I don't understand?

    You just post conspiracy theory threads as if they are verified factual evidence. Like your line was 'voting irregularties in Michigan' like its factual.


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    #4675
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Sorolla wrote: »
    Biden will continue with Trumps policies:

    Buy American - sounds like “America first”

    He will keep interest rates low - it will cost a lot to pay back costs incurred during corona

    Low interest rates will lead to soaring stock markets

    So basically Trumpism will continue with a less charismatic man as President

    Everything’s stays as it was

    Trump will return in 2024


    I'd say your probably wrong there tbh.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #4676
    Nody
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,662 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Sorolla wrote: »
    So basically Trumpism will continue with a less charismatic man as President

    Everything’s stays as it was
    Well we will not have a wannabie telling white neo nazies to stand ready or put out 22.000 lies over 4 years. That alone will be a great improvement compared the previous 4 years and I can can keep listing the improvements even if for some reason Biden would run exact same policy (hint, he's not see for example rejoining the Paris accord directly when sworn in, buying electrical cars etc.).


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    #4677
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Brussels Sprout wrote: »
    I don't understand. These are raw numbers right - that contribute to the state's total? What difference does it matter what county they came from as long as we are seeing the raw numbers or am I missing something?

    Different counties have a different preponderance of one party affiliation or another. So, if say 100,000 ballots remain outstanding and they came from predominantly Blue-leaning counties, then we can estimate the likely number of Trump vs Biden votes contained therein.


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    #4678
    Canice Picklington
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭Canice Picklington


    StringerBell wrote: »
    He won't last long though, its kinda like the election. I'm curious to see how many posts he manages to get in before they all get deleted by the mighty ban hammer and disappear forever, likes trumps leads did. We were at 6 at the time of posting, I'll have the over/under at 11
    The "freedom of speech" grift in Trumpworld amounts to baselessly calling somebody a paedophile.

    The irony is there's actually credible evidence there to allege that Trump may be be a paedophile, given that he actually had an actual case brought against him for raping a 13 year old girl with Jeffrey Epstein.


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    #4679
    Canice Picklington
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭Canice Picklington


    Nody wrote: »
    Well we will not have a wannabie telling white neo nazies to stand ready or put out 22.000 lies over 4 years. That alone will be a great improvement compared the previous 4 years and I can can keep listing the improvements even if for some reason Biden would run exact same policy (hint, he's not see for example rejoining the Paris accord directly when sworn in, buying electrical cars etc.).

    I've often felt that the difference between a fascist and a not a fascist is considerably underappreciated.


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    #4680
    Windmill100000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Windmill100000


    Trump charismatic? Good one. He couldn't spell the word.


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    #4681
    Brussels Sprout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Different counties have a different preponderance of one party affiliation or another. So, if say 100,000 ballots remain outstanding and they came from predominantly Blue-leaning counties, then we can estimate the likely number of Trump vs Biden votes contained therein.

    I see. Well yeah I guess you'd need a separate data source to carry out that kind of analysis.


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