US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

OneColdHand · 06-11-2020 05:17PM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Trump must feel like a frog getting slowly boiled.

On one hand if he was blown away by Biden, that would have been great.

But on the other hand, the slow death by a thousand paper cuts is great too!

Brian? · 06-11-2020 05:17PM

OneColdHand wrote: »

On one hand if he was blown away by Biden, that would have been great.

But on the other hand, the slow death by a thousand paper cuts is great too!

If Biden gets 306, it’s a blowout

Manic Moran · 06-11-2020 05:19PM

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Finally went back and read this thread from around 3am onwards on election night. All I'll say is that a lot of those posters haven't been heard of since in this thread.

I believe a bunch were threadbanned, if not sitebanned.

TomOnBoard · 06-11-2020 05:21PM

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Finally went back and read this thread from around 3am onwards on election night. All I'll say is that a lot of those posters haven't been heard of since in this thread.

There's a large element of seagulls at a landfill at times of great moment in discussion forums: lots of shrieking and squaking coupled with lots of ****ting then flying away to await the next pounce....

Manic Moran · 06-11-2020 05:21PM

Brian? wrote: »

If Biden gets 306, it’s a blowout

This is a blowout.

Brussels Sprout · 06-11-2020 05:22PM

Manic Moran wrote: »

Going back to the two Georgia senate seats, I don't see them flipping for two reaosns.
1) You no longer have the "anti-Trump" incentive to get folks to the polls in the first place, and 2) If you look at how the extra votes split out, the two Republican candidates between them got over 55% of one election, and the Libertarian was the spoiler with over 2% of the other election, they are unlikely to vote Democrat.

That's quite a bit off.

Loeffler got 26% and Collins got 20%. There were a few other Republicans in the race as well who got a combined 3.4%.

Total Republican vote was therefore: 49.4% which tallies with the 49.8% that Perdue got in the other race.

I agree with your point about getting the vote out. I suspect that the Republicans have an advantage there but the state is about to be saturated with attention and Get Out the Vote campaigns for the next 2 months. Biden and his surrogates need to go and basically live down there. It'll be a tall order but at least they have a path.

Infini · 06-11-2020 05:25PM

Manic Moran wrote: »

This is a blowout.

Its a bit misleading, yeah its a complete blowout EC wise but the voter numbers that year are roughly 60/40 for Regan.

MJohnston · 06-11-2020 05:25PM

Manic Moran wrote: »

This is a blowout.

No you see Trump himself described 306 as a landslide back in 2016, when he got that number of EVs.

Canice Picklington · 06-11-2020 05:26PM

I think there's a reasonable chance that the carry on of Trump and the Republicans over the next two months will be so despicable that it will drive down Republican turnout in the Georgia run-offs and drive up Democrat turnout.

It's a huge breakthrough for the Democrats to win Georgia (seemingly) and they'll be on the crest of a wave of confidence.

Brian? · 06-11-2020 05:30PM

Manic Moran wrote: »

This is a blowout.

That was. So was 2016 though

jasonb · 06-11-2020 05:35PM

Looks like Biden has increased his lead in NV, PA and GA. AZ is stil around the 43k mark.

The Iron Giant · 06-11-2020 05:37PM

Manic Moran wrote: »

This is a blowout.

That was pretty brutal but shockingly not even the worst.

In 1936, Alf Landon picked up only 8 electoral votes in Maine and Vermont at the very north eastern tip of the country.

ancapailldorcha · 06-11-2020 05:37PM

Cut out the petty sniping please.

The Iron Giant · 06-11-2020 05:38PM

jasonb wrote: »

Looks like Biden has increased his lead in NV, PA and GA. AZ is stil around the 43k mark.

CNN predicting that Democrat Mark Kelly wins GOP-held Arizona Senate seat so another AZ victory if comes to pass.

An Ciarraioch · 06-11-2020 05:44PM

jasonb wrote: »

Looks like Biden has increased his lead in NV, PA and GA. AZ is stil around the 43k mark.

And moreover, not only down to 240k AZ votes remaining, but Trump's block trend % has been steadily falling today:

https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html

Jo jo the eskimo · 06-11-2020 05:48PM

Should've been called hours ago but i suppose its only right to be sensitive to the trump supporters who have lost the election. Over time they will slowly begin to accept their loss and then there won't be the need for such political correctness.

MJohnston · 06-11-2020 05:54PM

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

CNN predicting that Democrat Mark Kelly wins GOP-held Arizona Senate seat so another AZ victory if comes to pass.

Husband of former Arizona Rep Gabby Giffords who was shot in 2011 too. And of course an astronaut (3rd astronaut in the Senate!)

Mr.Nice Guy · 06-11-2020 05:54PM

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324751875112128513

Getting closer and closer.

marno21 · 06-11-2020 05:57PM

Stick a fork in Nevada

https://twitter.com/greggiroux/status/1324754433708904452

Brian? · 06-11-2020 05:59PM

MJohnston wrote: »

Husband of former Arizona Rep Gabby Giffords who was shot in 2011 too. And of course an astronaut (3rd astronaut in the Senate!)

An outspoken gun control advocate elected in Az, to go with a gun control advocate in the Whitehouse. Is the tide turning?

StringerBell · 06-11-2020 06:04PM

everlast75 wrote: »

Particular credit needs to go to this lady too

https://twitter.com/TheWomensOrg/status/1324653254450569218?s=20

Inspirational stuff

I know I'm hours late on this but I'm just catching back up with the thread now and YES! dead right, she is the reason I was confident about Georgia being a real shot for Biden pre election - she is an amazing public servant, massive credit should go her way regardless of how that result finishes Georgia is now a real battleground state.

Itssoeasy · 06-11-2020 06:06PM

MJohnston wrote: »

Husband of former Arizona Rep Gabby Giffords who was shot in 2011 too. And of course an astronaut (3rd astronaut in the Senate!)

John Glenn and bill Nelson from I think Florida.

Edit: John Glenn is the first American to orbit the planet and he also flew on the space shuttle as did Senator bill Nelson.

paul71 · 06-11-2020 06:08PM

Brian? wrote: »

An outspoken gun control advocate elected in Az, to go with a gun control advocate in the Whitehouse. Is the tide turning?

Hopefully, it reminds me that somebody about a week ago posted an "article" by James O'Keefe on this thread. I had forgotten at the time that O'Keefe supported the guy who wrote the book claiming the Sandy hook school shootings were a hoax.

Those are the types of poisonous standards that Trump gave an open field to.

Itssoeasy · 06-11-2020 06:14PM

paul71 wrote: »

Hopefully, it reminds me that somebody about a week ago posted an "article" by James O'Keefe on this thread. I had forgotten at the time that O'Keefe supported the guy who wrote the book claiming the Sandy hook school shootings were a hoax.

Those are the types of poisonous standards that Trump gave an open field to.

The shower who believed that Sandy hook was a hoax and went after the grieving families are low on the human totem pole IMO. There’s a want in them to put it another way. It’s also after that awful event that I’m convinced America will never sort out their issues with guns. I’m not saying remove the second amendment but something has to change and after Sandy hook I was convinced nothing would.

Anyway don’t want to go too off topic but great to hear that Mark Kelly has unseated the incumbent.

For Forks Sake · 06-11-2020 06:18PM

CNN reporter in Pittsburgh doing a great job, pointing out the election officials, what work they're doing, pointing out the observers in place from both parties, and that they've found nothing objectionable.

Basically, demolishing all the bullsh1t claims that Trumps and his team have been making

paul71 · 06-11-2020 06:19PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

The shower who believed that Sandy hook was a hoax and went after the grieving families are low on the human totem pole IMO. There’s a want in them to put it another way. It’s also after that awful event that I’m convinced America will never sort out their issues with guns. I’m not saying remove the second amendment but something has to change and after Sandy hook I was convinced nothing would.

Anyway don’t want to go too off topic but great to hear that Mark Kelly has unseated the incumbent.

On that point and also in danger of going off topic, I believe with the packing of the Supreme court under Trump the ONLY remaining path to meaningful gun control is a constitutional amendment.

Saganist · 06-11-2020 06:20PM

Fox staff being told not to call Biden President-Elect, even when he reaches 270+

Some neck.

https://twitter.com/MrErnestOwens/status/1324728574906126336

Canice Picklington · 06-11-2020 06:26PM

Trump claiming he won and refusing to concede and launching court cases and basically acting like Lukashenko is a play to try and get a deal from the Democrats that he and his cabal won't be pursued on criminal charges. Sadly, I expect it to pretty much work.

He needs to be pursued with the full force of the law and there needs to be a major reckoning for his cabal. Otherwise, what is now Trumpism will mutate into something else and return with a vengeance in future.

Failure to pursue Trump and his cabal will give carte blanche to the alliance of corrupt American and international kleptocrats.

No saccharine words about "needing to come together" will change the enemy that democracy everywhere is up against. Doing that is merely giving a pass a malignant cancer.

The only thing that will set America free is the truth. But the rot in the American and international right-wing is so deep, and their influence and their rabid, atavistic nature is so great, that it will never happen.

Itssoeasy · 06-11-2020 06:26PM

Saganist wrote: »

Fox staff being told not to call Biden President-Elect, even when he reaches 270+

Some neck.

https://twitter.com/MrErnestOwens/status/1324728574906126336

Ah here. They gave Biden Arizona when few have and stuck by it but won’t do what has happened for years when a new person wins a presidential election. Is it to not incur the wrath of the current occupant of the White House ?

everlast75 · 06-11-2020 06:27PM

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

Keep them coming.

Okay - one more then.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/812450976670121985?s=20

US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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