Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

eagle eye · 06-11-2020 03:21PM

Tell me how wrote:

Not even close to guarantee to getting the nomination.

Yeah that's my worry. He's a guaranteed winner if he gets it.
Nobody else I'm aware of right now is a guaranteed winner. Maybe Joe Kennedy.
What this election has shown us is there is a huge amount of idiots in America. You couldn't trust them to elect a woman.

Harry Palmr · 06-11-2020 03:22PM

It'll be John King for 2024 at this rate.

06-11-2020 03:22PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Dunning Kruger effect isn't real...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/experimentations/202004/the-dunning-kruger-effect-may-be-statistical-illusion

My confirmation bias says otherwise

Overheal · 06-11-2020 03:22PM

is_that_so wrote: »

He's said he'll be a one term president, then it's Kamala's turn to run for it.

Where are you getting that “?

DrPhilG · 06-11-2020 03:23PM

sondagefaux wrote: »

You lost, get over it.

Would you ever grow up?

Drunkmonkey is hard to stick but this childish pish is just annoying. Ironically enough, it's very Trumpish.

Edit, I see the Mods beat me to it.

RobitTV · 06-11-2020 03:23PM

So pleased I cashed out on my 225 euro bet on Paddy Power when I did :pac::pac: betted on Trump winning.

Made a 70 euro profit after election night and we were heading into the morning at this point, thanks Paddy Power

Polar101 · 06-11-2020 03:24PM

Graham wrote: »

The Trump campaign have set up a voter fraud hotline in a last ditch attempt to try and find some sort of evidence. :rolleyes:

I saw it with my own two eyes, someone voted Biden. Clear evidence of fraud!

Wouldn't want to be taking calls on that hotline.

randd1 · 06-11-2020 03:24PM

wes wrote: »

So Republican's want to put an end to democracy (what little democracy they have that is) in the US.

I wouldn't say that, but they know which way the wind is blowing.

Yes, this race was close in parts. But in the cold light of day, the facts show Trump got around 5 million more votes than he did last time around (a fantastic achievement for his campaign really). It was as close to maximum as he could have done in fairness to him. Yet he will still lose the popular vote by around 5 million votes.

5 Million more votes is not insignificant in the slightest. There are clearly more Democrats in the US than Republicans. This has been borne out in the popular vote for a good few elections now.

They've flipped 6 states in this election. Florida and North Carolina are relatively close contests too. Texas was close for a while. The changing demographics of these states look to be leaning blue for the future.

Furthermore, this is one the back of a Democratic party in an identity crisis, while Biden, hardly the most inspiring figure, looks to have won the presidency (at the moments anyway).

Trump or Biden, the democrats have the majority of voters, and demographics would suggest it's support is only going to increase.

If the democrats ever got their act together and started rowing the boat in the same direction, the Republicans would be destroyed really.

So they'll tip the scales in their favour where they can until the can figure out how to become more than just, for the most part anyway, the 1950's white guy party.

namloc1980 · 06-11-2020 03:24PM

It's becoming very clear that there is no evidence of any voter fraud. The patterns emerging are that in the the core urban arears Biden did about the same as Hillary in 2016. In the rural areas Trump did as well and often better than 2016. The big difference is in the suburbs around the core urban areas.

I had a look at Utah (solid Republican) - in 2016 Hilary got 42% in Salt Lake City and suburbs. Joe Biden has 56% there. Obviously Trump will win the entire state but he lost the suburbs bigtime. Unfortunately Trump and his sycophants won't accept that but the results show the clear pattern is repeated across the country. He lost the suburbs which is why he spent an inordinate amount of time focusing on the suburbs during the campaign - his team knew he was doing badly there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebsapm04flQ

DrumSteve · 06-11-2020 03:24PM

is_that_so wrote: »

He's too abrasive.

hynesie08 wrote: »

Cuomo is very "noo yawk" though, don't know if that'll fly in the south and Midwest......

Eh...Trump?

J2CVC · 06-11-2020 03:24PM

RobitTV wrote: »

So pleased I cashed out on my 225 euro bet on Paddy Power when I did :pac::pac: betted on Trump winning.

Made a 70 euro profit after election night and we were heading into the morning at this point, thanks Paddy Power

Everyone likes an aftertimer

eagle eye · 06-11-2020 03:25PM

RobitTV wrote:

So pleased I cashed out on my 225 euro bet on Paddy Power when I did

Made a 70 euro profit after election night and we were heading into the morning at this point, thanks Paddy Power

Can you show us the bet?

wes · 06-11-2020 03:25PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

As it currently stands he's on track to win all the States the polls said he'd win , Florida was always in toss-up territory and given that there are suggestions that the USPS "lost" upwards of 300k mail-in votes there , it might have been a lot closer.

Also, a hundreds of thousands were disenfranchised for no paying fines. The people were overwhelmingly African American.

Curious_Case · 06-11-2020 03:25PM

Shall we put the activity center in the truck or with the recyclables sir ?

briany · 06-11-2020 03:26PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

The Democrats weaponised it. Were currently in lockdown and can't travel more than 5k to save the hospitals from being over run with Covid and the Flu. We've no flu it's disappeared but Covid is still traveling, did they swap flight tickets or something.
https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/influenza/seasonalinfluenza/surveillance/influenzasurveillancereports/20202021season/Influenza_Surveillance_Report_Week%2044.pdf

If, by weaponised, you mean criticise the Trump administration for it's irresponsible handling of the pandemic, then yes, but most people would interpret that criticism as an appropriate response to Trump and acolytes going in half-cocked.

The Democrats have not used the pandemic to suppress the vote. Biden's message has been vote, vote, vote, and contrary to conspiracy theory that was not an instruction for individuals to vote multiple times. Trump supporters and Republicans in general were just as welcome to pick up an absentee ballot as anyone else, and vote. There's only been one side of this election calling votes into question on a monumental scale or messing with the postal system and it has not been Biden and the Democrats. It's been Trump and the Rep...., er, no actually the GoP establishment appears to be inching away from him while motioning to Donald and making a 'he's crazy' gesture.

robinph · 06-11-2020 03:26PM

schmoo2k wrote: »

Only because it wasn't a blue wave, but more just squeaking over the line (although the final EC votes will likely flatter in the end >300)

306 EC votes, the largest popular vote for the winner in history and a 5-8 million difference in the popular vote is pretty good going.

Nothing close about it, other than the order of the votes being counted over several days made it seem close.

06-11-2020 03:26PM

AllForIt wrote: »

It's extraordinary how badly Biden did in comparison to the polls thus no one is in any position to gloat.

Polls seem pretty accurate to me.

Tchaikovsky · 06-11-2020 03:26PM

Dante7 · 06-11-2020 03:26PM

eagle eye wrote: »

I gotta say I wouldn't be ready to concede North Carolina yet. All the networks have pretty much given it to Trump.
Trump holds a healthy 77, 000 lead but there could be 130, 000 votes yet to count, all mail ins. There's a guaranteed 116, 000.
If Biden hits 75% of them it's really tight. If there's another 14, 000 he wins.

The problem with North Carolina is that most of the remaining votes are from in person voting on election day so won't have the same percentage of pro Biden mail in votes.

wes · 06-11-2020 03:27PM

hmmm wrote: »

It is fantastic, the Dems would have taken your hand off at the beginning of the year if you told them they would have a candidate who could beat an incumbent President who increased his vote from 2016.

The Democratic party have not had a good election - they've gone backwards in Congress, they haven't won the Senate. There doesn't appear to have been much appetite for "progressivism". Biden pulled them over the line in the Presidency by moving to the center and his team kept their eye on the key states.

More progressives have been elected...... So I would say you are wrong in that assertion. The "squad" is much bigger now.

endainoz · 06-11-2020 03:27PM

RobitTV wrote: »

So pleased I cashed out on my 225 euro bet on Paddy Power when I did :pac::pac: betted on Trump winning.

Made a 70 euro profit after election night and we were heading into the morning at this point, thanks Paddy Power

Made the right call, fair play. Cashing out can be difficult when you see the potential earnings staring back at you.

ohnonotgmail · 06-11-2020 03:27PM

Overheal wrote: »

Where are you getting that “?

whether he has come outright and said it (and i dont think he has) it is clear he wont be running in 2024. He will be 82 by then.

robinph · 06-11-2020 03:29PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

whether he has come outright and said it (and i dont think he has) it is clear he wont be running in 2024. He will be 82 by then.

Just need him to last 2 years so that Harris can then try for 2 terms.

Enquiring · 06-11-2020 03:30PM

endainoz wrote: »

Made the right call, fair play. Cashing out can be difficult when you see the potential earnings staring back at you.

The drunkmonkey fella cashed out too late. He was confident Trump had it in the bag, was looking at winnings of close to 1,500. The cash out was just under 1,000 at the time. He eventually cashed out at around 300 I think, so a 200 euro loss in the end.

thecretinhop · 06-11-2020 03:30PM

Biden Takes Narrow 5k-Vote Lead In PA As USPS Finds More Ballots In Philly

ah come on this is beyond a joke.

namloc1980 · 06-11-2020 03:30PM

thecretinhop wrote: »

Biden Takes Narrow 5k-Vote Lead In PA As USPS Finds More Ballots In Philly

ah come on this is beyond a joke.

Source?

sheeplover55 · 06-11-2020 03:31PM

wes wrote: »

More progressives have been elected...... So I would say you are wrong in that assertion. The "squad" is much bigger now.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/house/524690-democrats-post-election-family-meeting-descends-into-chaos%3famp

Democrats' post-election 'family meeting' descends into chaos

Moderate House Democrats lashed out at their liberal colleagues Thursday, using a marathon caucus-wide conference call to bash progressives for advancing an agenda that, the centrists said, cost the party a number of seats in Tuesday's elections.

06-11-2020 03:32PM

thecretinhop wrote: »

Biden Takes Narrow 5k-Vote Lead In PA As USPS Finds More Ballots In Philly

ah come on this is beyond a joke.

Weird how you keep saying that they've found more ballots in PA and yet the total number of estimated votes has remained stable.

RobitTV · 06-11-2020 03:32PM

Here is my proof of the bet

Smee_Again · 06-11-2020 03:32PM

thecretinhop wrote: »

Biden Takes Narrow 5k-Vote Lead In PA As USPS Finds More Ballots In Philly

ah come on this is beyond a joke.

Whats the joke? They havent even started counting the posted ballots received after election day yet.

If that happens Biden's lead could grow or shrink, either way there aren't enough late postal votes to change the outcome.

Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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