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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • #9092
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,771 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    irishfeen wrote: »
    87% in any democratic vote is massive... it’s beyond a landslide in urban areas for Biden.

    But it isn't specifically "Urban" , it's Urban Democratic party voters who voted by Mail because Trump told all his supporters not to do it.

    The Urban vote overall will probably more like 60:40 Democrat , but it's not remotely surprising that the "Urban Mail-in Vote" is massively skewed blue.


  • #9093
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    For all the criticism of Biden been uninspiring, if he gets Georgia, Penn, Nevada and Arizona, would that not be a fantastic achievement for a Dem candidate.


  • #9094
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    declanflynn wrote: »
    Will Biden win a second term
    He's said he'll be a one term president, then it's Kamala's turn to run for it.


  • #9095
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,635 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Dunning Kruger effect isn't real...

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/experimentations/202004/the-dunning-kruger-effect-may-be-statistical-illusion


  • #9096
    Ten of Swords
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,437 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Enquiring wrote: »
    Dressoutlet wrote: »
    Theres not bias, everyone is free to post, it's just there's more people who post for Biden instead of Trump.. Like the election
    We weren't discussing posters.

    Discuss in to the feedback forum if you wish, anything else along these lines in the thread is off topic

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  • #9097
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    The below from the Guardian, looks like it will be one of the main Republican avenues of attack if/when Biden takes PA

    So Republican's want to put an end to democracy (what little democracy they have that is) in the US.


  • #9098
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,040 ✭✭✭Polar101


    hmmm wrote: »
    I wonder if they will? It doesn't appear to be damaging the Republican party to have him ranting and raving, so perhaps better (from their perspective) to let him drag this through the courts and make it the Democrats problem. You don't want to be the Republican who Trump accuses of causing him to lose by advising him to concede, because you know he doesn't have the maturity to admit he lost without blaming someone else.

    Most Republicans are likely to accept a result of a democratic election. The party might not stop Trump's ravings, but they aren't likely to fully support him either. For the same reason Trump running again in 2024 as a Republican candidate sounds very far-fetched, if he loses this election the party will be looking ahead and not clinging on to Trump. He has a lot of die-hard supporters, but it's not like Republicans haven't won elections even when Trump wasn't running.


  • #9099
    J2CVC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 139 ✭✭J2CVC


    https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1324528445712404480


  • #9100
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    This is ridiculously exciting!


  • #9101
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,929 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    Some counties have less than 10k people in them, compared to 500k plus in counties with major cities like Philly.

    and the 87% was a from similarly small number of votes from an urban area where democrats voted by mail-in in large numbers.


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  • #9102
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Dunning Kruger effect isn't real...

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/experimentations/202004/the-dunning-kruger-effect-may-be-statistical-illusion
    Its why your self perception isn't always real.


  • #9103
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    joe40 wrote: »
    For all the criticism of Biden been uninspiring, if he gets Georgia, Penn, Nevada and Arizona, would that not be a fantastic achievement for a Dem candidate.
    It might be a good thing to have a dull 4 years after the last 4 years' entertainment.


  • #9104
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    biko wrote: »
    Sounds like a modern version of "psychopathological mechanisms of dissent".

    Except that the first study was in 1999 and it mainly deals with stupidity.


  • #9105
    Smee_Again
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    biko wrote: »
    Sounds like a modern version of "psychopathological mechanisms of dissent".

    I love how ignorant and lacking in knowledge sense your posts are.

    First you confused Election Interference with Fraud and now you strike again.

    Brilliant, I look forward to your next nugget of ignorance.


  • #9106
    noelfirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭noelfirl


    The fact that the Secret Service is being fully stood up around Biden and a national air defence zone has been declared over his house tells you all you need to know about how 'America-the-institution' will deal with this situation.


  • #9107
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    retro:electro wrote: »
    This is ridiculously exciting!
    Only because the result seems to be going the way most posters want!:)


  • #9108
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Go on Biden you have him


  • #9109
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,545 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    is_that_so wrote:
    He's said he'll be a one term president, then it's Kamala's turn to run for it.
    Cuomo in '24. Guaranteed win, don't take any chances.


  • #9110
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,771 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    AllForIt wrote: »
    More petty posting.

    Noone ever said Trump was going to win by a landslide, maybe some bullish posts on here but in general it was Biden that was predicted to win by a landslide. I said Trump would win in a similar fashion to last time, i.e by a bit.


    It's extraordinary how badly Biden did in comparison to the polls thus no one is in any position to gloat. When Clinton beat Bush to oust him from the White House he got 370 electoral votes, that's what you call a landslide.


    This election was called for Biden mainly because of a supposedly overwhelming anti-Trump vote, because of a rejection of him as a person and his manner. One cannot say looking at the stats that there was any truth to this whatsoever with Biden winning it by a margin of 1% in some states or less and no landslide. So carry on listing the worst hits of Trump but none of that is why he lost evidently.

    Well.......

    As it currently stands he's on track to win all the States the polls said he'd win , Florida was always in toss-up territory and given that there are suggestions that the USPS "lost" upwards of 300k mail-in votes there , it might have been a lot closer.

    When the counting is over , I don't think they are going to be a million miles away from the Popular Vote % either.

    They definitely underestimated Trumps Strength , but it's not looking like they got the Biden vote strength all that wrong if you look at the % of totals they were projecting at the State level.


  • #9111
    atr2002
    Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭atr2002


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Cuomo in '24. Guaranteed win, don't take any chances.

    It's Kanye's to lose in 2024.


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  • #9112
    q85dw7osi4lebg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Why can't Trump go to the White House anymore?

    Because it's For Biden


  • #9113
    omega man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭omega man


    Fox will get off the hook for having called Arizona too early.


  • #9114
    E mac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭E mac


    noelfirl wrote: »
    The fact that the Secret Service is being fully stood up around Biden and a national air defence zone has been declared over his house tells you all you need to know about how 'America-the-institution' will deal with this situation.

    Didn't end well for the last catholic president....


  • #9115
    Enquiring
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭Enquiring


    I think there's going to be riots for a long time over this. America is a disturbing place, obviously, the majority are just getting on with life but there are enough nutters to really kick things off. I hope not but things seem to have been simmering for a long time and it could be about to explode.


  • #9116
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,057 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Cuomo in '24. Guaranteed win, don't take any chances.

    Not even close to guarantee to getting the nomination.


  • #9117
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Cuomo in '24. Guaranteed win, don't take any chances.
    He's too abrasive.


  • #9118
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Only because the result seems to be going the way most posters want!:)

    Only because it wasn't a blue wave, but more just squeaking over the line (although the final EC votes will likely flatter in the end >300)


  • #9119
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    joe40 wrote: »
    For all the criticism of Biden been uninspiring, if he gets Georgia, Penn, Nevada and Arizona, would that not be a fantastic achievement for a Dem candidate.
    It is fantastic, the Dems would have taken your hand off at the beginning of the year if you told them they would have a candidate who could beat an incumbent President who increased his vote from 2016.

    The Democratic party have not had a good election - they've gone backwards in Congress, they haven't won the Senate. There doesn't appear to have been much appetite for "progressivism". Biden pulled them over the line in the Presidency by moving to the center and his team kept their eye on the key states.


  • #9120
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,254 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Cuomo in '24. Guaranteed win, don't take any chances.

    Cuomo is very "noo yawk" though, don't know if that'll fly in the south and Midwest......


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  • #9121
    Padre_Pio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    trump received nearly 90% of the vote in 1 county in Wyoming and over 80% in many others.

    Some counties have less than 10k people in them, compared to 500k plus in counties with major cities like Philly.


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