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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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    #4382
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    There are two sides to every story. In this case there's the crackpot 'they're making up votes and stealing the election' and on the other side there are stories like this one from an independent poll watcher. Incidentally, this is part of the reason why counting is taking so long. They're being deliberately slowed down. It's not a very long thread, but it's quite instructive.


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    #4383
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭harr


    This is great craic , Trump has told his allies he has no intention of conceding and won’t recognise the results


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    #4384
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,918 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    87% of the latest batch, and the rest will likely follow that average. Should be wrapped up now.


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    #4385
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Stick a fork in it, it's done.


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    #4386
    themink
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭themink


    Where do folks see the senate ending up? Seems like the Alaskan candidate Al Gross thinks he’s in with a great shout with mail in ballots despite being at 32% from early counts. Am I right in saying Democrats would only need one of the two Georgia seats in the run off to get it to 50-50 in the senate?


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    #4387
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    Anyone know now when PA will be projected? I'd imagine it will be in the next hour? All eyes on Fox news :D


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    #4388
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    5,500 vote gap too, which will only widen.

    It's game over for Donald.

    This is going to be incredibly amusing.


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    #4389
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,500 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Biden ahead in PA, pulling in over 85% of votes around Philadelphia, still another c.20k votes to be counted in the same area which should stretch his lead


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    #4390
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1324710866516905984


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    #4391
    [Deleted User]
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    harr wrote: »
    This is great craic , Trump has told his allies he has no intention of conceding and won’t recognise the results


    He better get used to the idea of either the police or military dragging him out of the Whitehouse then.


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    #4392
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    themink wrote: »
    Where do folks see the senate ending up? Seems like the Alaskan candidate Al Gross thinks he’s in with a great shout with mail in ballots despite being at 32% from early counts. Am I right in saying Democrats would only need one of the two Georgia seats in the run off to get it to 50-50 in the senate?

    48-48 currently, so yes, Alaska would ease the pressure considerably.


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    #4393
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,214 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    306 for Biden. Exactly the same as Trump 2016. According to Trump it was "the largest electoral college win ever".

    It wasn't obvs

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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    #4394
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 15,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    themink wrote: »
    Where do folks see the senate ending up? Seems like the Alaskan candidate Al Gross thinks he’s in with a great shout with mail in ballots despite being at 32% from early counts. Am I right in saying Democrats would only need one of the two Georgia seats in the run off to get it to 50-50 in the senate?

    I can see Sullivan holding onto that seat to be honest. Should Gross win then the Dems need 1 of the Georgia seats assuming Biden wins.

    The Georgia senate runoffs are going to be the mother of all elections.


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    #4395
    Vital Transformation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Vital Transformation


    Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »
    Anyone know now when PA will be projected? I'd imagine it will be in the next hour? All eyes on Fox news :D

    Decision Desk have already called it.


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    #4396
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    circadian wrote: »
    He better get used to the idea of either the police or military dragging him out of the Whitehouse then.
    Secret Service I'd say.


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    #4397
    EltonJohn69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Headshot wrote: »
    God if he wins in Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Georgia, Trump will find it very hard to sue them all lol

    Not with 600 lawyers


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    #4398
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    130K votes left in PA


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    #4399
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,220 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    EltonJohn69 wrote: »
    Not with 600 lawyers

    He hasn't got the cash for that though. One or two challenges maybe.

    Campaigns bust, he's bust.


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    #4400
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,500 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    EltonJohn69 wrote: »
    Not with 600 lawyers

    Lawyers expect to get paid, and in Trumps case, I'd be asking for the money up front


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    #4401
    valoren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,708 ✭✭✭valoren


    The whole thing feels akin to the news when a ponzi scheme, which many saw through but in which many others invested their savings into, is in the process of imploding. You have zero sympathy for them because if they weren't sufficiently clued into appreciate and recognise the con they were being sold on then they've brought it on themselves. You’ll have some recognising how conned they were but you’ll always have that cohort that will be unable to admit they were duped and will never accept how their "investment" was stolen.

    Trump last night couldn't even have the decency to condone any potential violence which might erupt. Yes, he was always going to play hard ball when the results began going against him but he could have said he would challenge the vote using legal means and made a plea for peaceful protest and eschew violence. His malignant narcissism would have people becoming violent in deference to him and the likes of his flying monkey enabling son coming out with words like going to war is why McConnell’s weasel words are simply insufficient.


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    #4402
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    L1011 wrote: »
    He hasn't got the cash for that though. One or two challenges maybe.

    Campaigns bust, he's bust.

    That's the reason why they've been spamming people with requests for donations to their legal challenge fund for the last few days.


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    #4403
    donfers
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    Bill Maher for 2 years has been saying for 2 years that if Trump loses he won't go quietly and now that it is 99% certain that he has lost we now await the next embarrassing chapter in his Presidency which will be reluctant handover. It could get very mess and once again America's democratic values will be serious undermined.


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    #4404
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,541 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Trump will step aside. He will have his tantrum but ultimately the Republican majority in senate and house won't stand by him.
    Headshot wrote: »
    God if he wins in Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Georgia, Trump will find it very hard to sue them all lol

    Bidens winning them all and don't forget he is trying to sue Wisconsin and Michigan too lol


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    #4405
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,214 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Kristine Fischer is reporting from the Whitehouse for Fox. She's tearing Trump a new one. I've got a new hero.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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    #4406
    peteeeed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    its always sunny in Philadelphia


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    #4407
    donfers
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    Watch all the republican opportunists and sycophants jump a sinking ship now - one would have to seriously question their integrity if it takes until now for them to be critical of Trump, and only out of self-interest. Not many Republicans coming out shining, not many look to have acted on principle


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    #4408
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,214 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Kristin Fisher alert: I've learned how to spell her name. Both her parents were astronauts, her mother was the first mother in space.

    I am going to start lobbying Joe to draft her in as press secretary

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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    #4409
    Brussels Sprout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Who'll be the first TV Network to call it?


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    #4410
    Keano
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,810 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    Brian? wrote: »
    Kristine Fischer is reporting from the Whitehouse for Fox. She's tearing Trump a new one. I've got a new hero.
    Where can one watch this - need to see it!


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    #4411
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    If the current current positions hold that's a hammering for Trump isnt it?


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