Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

Dr. Bre · 06-11-2020 02:35PM

Is Leo becoming our trump ?

FrancieBrady · 06-11-2020 02:36PM

Cute Hoor wrote: »

I don't know who was responsible for the timing of this but it was pretty naïve at best, letting it out in the week of what was always going to be a dynamite US election, if they had waited another 2 weeks they might have had the floor to themselves for a week or 2. Even so, still a lot of damage done.

Ordinarily this would have just taken down Leo.

But because these lads are so bad at shutting things down and getting out in front, it is engulfing the whole government at a rate of knots. The US elections is not making it go away at all.

Dempo1 · 06-11-2020 02:38PM

Cute Hoor wrote: »

I don't know who was responsible for the timing of this but it was pretty naïve at best, letting it out in the week of what was always going to be a dynamite US election, if they had waited another 2 weeks they might have had the floor to themselves for a week or 2. Even so, still a lot of damage done.

I agree, timing wasn't great but I'm happy to see Leo squirm a little longer, Arrogant and self serving, it was just astonishing he couldn't just keep his mouth shut for more than a day, his comments at the "Private" FG Party meeting, speaks voumnes on his character.

TheChizler · 06-11-2020 02:39PM

Hubertj wrote: »

Can motions of no confidence only be brought against government members? I presume it can’t be brought against any serving TD?

That's called a general election!

McMurphy · 06-11-2020 02:40PM

Dempo1 wrote: »

Interesting development, I get a sense SF know more than their letting on and know Leo has pretty much dropped "his not so close friends", the wolves are out. Leo has been blessed with the media's obsession with the US election this week, timely distraction but another weekend of intrigue ahead.

Definitely, PD asked Varadkar fairly specific questions yesterday, which Leo answered emphatically.

But anyway. Check this out.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1324697572834004995?s=19

Leo told the truth now go away shinners. Are they for real?

Dempo1 · 06-11-2020 02:40PM

grayzer75 wrote: »

Mehole was just asked about it on Sky News. First lines out was it has been dealt with but he did it whilst in charge in the previous government.

Good man Mehole, that's the spirit Bury the little B@@lox on UK TV

Cute Hoor · 06-11-2020 02:41PM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Is Leo becoming our trump ?

His comments about NPHET would suggest so

Dempo1 · 06-11-2020 02:42PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Definitely, PD asked Varadkar fairly specific questions yesterday, which Leo answered emphatically.

But anyway. Check this out.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1324697572834004995?s=19

Leo told the truth now go away shinners. Are they for real?

Yes and it's actually the Truth that is the crux of his problem, what's that saying? The truth always hurts!!

Plumbthedepths · 06-11-2020 02:43PM

Fun to watch all the FF lads vote this down.https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sinn-fein-tables-motion-of-no-confidence-in-leo-varadkar-amid-imo-pay-leak-controversy-39714551.html

Nobotty · 06-11-2020 02:44PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Ordinarily this would have just taken down Leo.

But because these lads are so bad at shutting things down and getting out in front, it is engulfing the whole government at a rate of knots. The US elections is not making it go away at all.

As a bleary eyed late night watcher of cnn lately,I wouldn't be too sure of that

This is the official opposition doing their job
I'll be recording this debate though and skipping to the interesting bits if any
2hrs of my life last Tuesday was enough!

FrancieBrady · 06-11-2020 02:45PM

Dempo1 wrote: »

I agree, timing wasn't great but I'm happy to see Leo squirm a little longer, Arrogant and self serving, it was just astonishing he couldn't just keep his mouth shut for more than a day, his comments at the "Private" FG Party meeting, speaks voumnes on his character.

As RTE reporter just said: 'this is going to run well into next week and beyond'.

We have already seen the almost unprecedented spectacle of Leo explaining in the Dáil (not nearly enough to end it) and now several inquiries coming and a motion of No Confidence.

Will we now see some FGers break ranks and call for a tourniquet to stem the flow of damage, ditch Leo?

s1ippy · 06-11-2020 02:51PM

Nobotty wrote: »

Gardai have to investigate every complaint
Its very very unlikely that these ones will go anywhere IMO unless there's concrete evidence other than screengrabs of whatsapps
Those coming from Bowes phone are unverifiable unless All whatsapp records are sequestered
Not sure if Paddy and Chay have thought of that one
If there's any evidence of those two conspiring to create this story,it will show there
They better not have anything like that on their whatsapp conversations. It could be that they are only interested in sowing seeds here and aren't expecting a garda case
But like I've said all through,that's just monumental incompetence, they should have waited untill an election campaign
Grudges alone,which they certainly have in abundance are not enough
You need solid evidence
If gardai don't prosecute they're toast

Just being realistic

Gardaí need evidence to prosecute, which is why they have investigations to find it. When they are investigating, I'm sure they'll come across plenty damning stuff. I wouldn't want Gardaí investigating me and I'm very law abiding.

I doubt Leo is delighted about this. I'm starting to feel a tiny twinge of sympathy and then I remember what a prick he was to the waiting staff in the restaurant I saw him in, and all the other sh!tty things he did that directly affect millions of people...

Good.

Muahahaha · 06-11-2020 02:55PM

So this will roll all the way to Tuesday at a minimum.Great timing by SF on the motion of no confidence, they can just sit back for the weekend and wait to see what comes out next from the Village before getting to fire it on Tuesday.

It will be interesting now to see what Ministers Leo is able to muster to defend him, he has already expended lots of political capital on this and it is fast running out. Martin must be loosing patience at this stage as well as getting it in the neck from his own party. Leo was supposed to draw a line under this last Tuesday but he failed utterly in that regard, next Tuesday the story will be 10 days old and yet again he will be explaining, and when you're explaining you're losing.

Hubertj · 06-11-2020 02:56PM

what does the motion of no confidence do? he is removed as tanaiste but remians TD? Or is it P45?

fergus1001 · 06-11-2020 02:59PM

might be an opportunity for the disgruntled back benchers in FF to give mehole the shove

timmyntc · 06-11-2020 03:02PM

Hubertj wrote: »

what does the motion of no confidence do? he is removed as tanaiste but remians TD? Or is it P45?

The Taoiseach & govt resigns - either govt formation again or a new election?

Actually since its just a motion of no confidence in Varadkar himself, I think he'll be gone as Minister & Tanaiste, but still remains a TD.

Cluedo Monopoly · 06-11-2020 03:13PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The final final nail in Enda's 2011 'new politics' spiel and ultimately lies.

And all to save Leo.

Clever move by SF and good timing.

It just helps reinforce in the public's mind that FF and FG are the same entity.

McMurphy · 06-11-2020 03:15PM

Second headline on the 1400 news after Trump v Biden.

Not going away.

weldoninhio · 06-11-2020 03:17PM

If you are reading this thread and want a government that follows the rules, doesn’t endorse cronyism, doesn’t lie to those it serves etc.

Make sure you get in contact with your local FF TDs and councillors and let them know that.

Hubertj · 06-11-2020 03:26PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

If you are reading this thread and want a government that follows the rules, doesn’t endorse cronyism, doesn’t lie to those it serves etc.

Make sure you get in contact with your local FF TDs and councillors and let them know that.

i think the problem there is you won't find any politician or party in Ireland that follows rules, doesnt endorse croneyism, doesnt lie to those it serves..... Actually, pretty much the same anywhere in the world.

James Brown · 06-11-2020 03:31PM

Nothing will happen Leo in the no confidence. It's about showing up FF/FG/Greens in their support of him. Driving home the point that FF/FG are the same, the Greens are still the willing mudguard and it will be added to the pile of reasons to move away from FF/FG. The Greens will drop off the radar again.

Jinglejangle69 · 06-11-2020 03:37PM

Do SF always not have confidence in the government anyway!!????

McMurphy · 06-11-2020 03:42PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Do SF always not have confidence in the government anyway!!????

Leo isn't the government, I know a few of you lads think he is FG, but similarly, FG aren't the govt either.

Do you have confidence in him Jingle?
What do you think should happen him if more evidence emerges of him leaking information?
Was it yourself thought Maria Bailey was a plant to bring fg into disrepute?

Jinglejangle69 · 06-11-2020 03:47PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Leo isn't the government, I know a few of you lads think he is FG, but similarly, FG aren't the govt either.

Do you have confidence in him Jingle?
What do you think should happen him if more evidence emerges of him leaking information?
Was it yourself thought Maria Bailey was a plant to bring fg into disrepute?

I'm actually just joking around.

I just mean surely opposition parties never have confidence in the government as they are always criticising them!?

Yeah it's not looking good for him alright.

He'll probably go and we'll move onto the next massive scandal.

thomas 123 · 06-11-2020 03:50PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Definitely, PD asked Varadkar fairly specific questions yesterday, which Leo answered emphatically.

But anyway. Check this out.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1324697572834004995?s=19

Leo told the truth now go away shinners. Are they for real?

Who’s the spokesperson? Again I ask is this good enough? 2020 and this is what we are putting up with?

timmyntc · 06-11-2020 03:50PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

I'm actually just joking around.

I just mean surely opposition parties never have confidence in the government as they are always criticising them!?.

Well yeah, that's their job - to hold govt to account.
And govt have a defacto majority, that's why they are in govt.

But if they do something very bad, which opposition believes may be enough to bring down govt (i.e. some of govt TDs would vote against govt) then they'll call for no confidence.

No confidence in Varadkar is because clearly more than just the opposition are unhappy with him (as we know from FFs internal squabbles)

thomas 123 · 06-11-2020 03:52PM

Let’s see will the whips be rolled out again...

Gatling · 06-11-2020 03:53PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Second headline on the 1400 news after Trump v Biden.

Not going away.

What sf table motion of no confidence for the how many time over the last few years.

It's going away I'd imagine most of the posts on here will be from the same people quoting themselves on a daily basis to keep this going ,

Leo hasn't done anything that every TD , senator or councillor from every party has already done before them

Fungie made more headlines than this , completely sad but true

Plumbthedepths · 06-11-2020 03:53PM

Leo should have listened to Albert.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-20015209.html

FrancieBrady · 06-11-2020 03:54PM

Gatling wrote: »

What sf table motion of no confidence for the how many time over the last few years.

It's going away I'd imagine most of the posts on here will be from the same people quoting themselves on a daily basis to keep this going ,

Leo hasn't done anything that every TD , senator or councillor from every party has already done before them

Fungie made more headlines than this , completely sad but true

More grist to the 'only mistake he made was to get caught' mill.

Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

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