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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • #8342
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,768 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Get your money on Biden so.

    1 cent on a bet of 40 cent for him winning, not worth it unless ye have thousands to throw around :D


  • #8343
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,457 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Have we a total of how much collectively will be lost to the bookies by all those "users" so eager to post their betting slips a couple of nights ago?


  • #8344
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Trump scraping through in Arizona (if he does) is a bad sign for the Republicans - they've won Arizona at every presidential election since 1952 with the only exception being Clinton in 1996.

    Phoenix is turning increasingly Democratic and has had a influx of people from California in recent years.

    Big for the jobs of those at fox news as well. I imagine they are on a short leash given recent conversations in that building. Heck on twitter I have seen some people blame the election loss on Fox calling Arizona too early.

    AP calling a state wrong as well.

    Edit: presuming it goes to Trump which I am not convinced of.


  • #8345
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    Busi_Girl08 wrote: »
    Let's keep inmind that even after Biden's win, Trump will still be pres until January. I'm genuinely worried about what he's going to do while he still has the power to do so.

    Whatever happens, it's not going to be a peaceful transition.

    Heard discussed on the radio that he could step down, hand presidency to Pence and as payback for that Pence pardons Trump for all the stuff that’s been stacking up against him since becoming POTUS. Surprising? Not at all, Trump is thoroughly unpredictable


  • #8346
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,947 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    jill_valentine wrote: »
    So, to give an idea of how mental the effect of the electoral college is -

    "834,533 people in Alabama voted for Biden. That's more people than voted for Biden in Vermont, Delaware and DC combined. Alabama has more Dem voters than won Biden nine electoral votes."

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MrcoEsquandolas/status/1324375643233157120


    Check out the weight of each viote per state, its an absurd system


    https://theconversation.com/whose-votes-count-the-least-in-the-electoral-college-74280


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  • #8347
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,457 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    screamer wrote: »
    Heard discussed on the radio that he could step down, hand presidency to Pence and as payback for that Pence pardons Trump for all the stuff that’s been stacking up against him since becoming POTUS. Surprising? Not at all, Trump is thoroughly unpredictable

    Can you be pardoned before been found guilty of a federal crime?

    :confused:


  • #8348
    jill_valentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    hmmm wrote: »
    History will be very kind to Biden's campaign. Flipping Georgia, winning Arizona and taking back MI, WI, PA in the face of an incumbent President who increased his vote.

    Imagine what the narrative would have been if the votes were counted in order. The mail ins would have clinched PA and several others from the get go, and the visual would have been of Trump trying and failing to catch up.


  • #8349
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,947 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Boggles wrote: »
    Can you be pardoned before been found guilty of a federal crime?

    :confused:


    Nope :D


  • #8350
    woohoo!!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭woohoo!!!


    So Georgia, about 10,000 votes left to count. A mix of GOP and Dem counties still to report. The remaining votes are mail-in ballots, where Biden has heavily been out performing Trump. Without Georgia, Trump cannot win.


  • #8351
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Great stuff Joe

    Never in doubt . Well done America


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  • #8352
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    screamer wrote: »
    Heard discussed on the radio that he could step down, hand presidency to Pence and as payback for that Pence pardons Trump for all the stuff that’s been stacking up against him since becoming POTUS. Surprising? Not at all, Trump is thoroughly unpredictable




    I'd imagine that you have to have something to be pardoned from. No?



    I'd doubt you can be pardoned from an allegation/rumour. You probably have to be charged and convicted.



    Would probably have to organise to be charged, convicted and then pardoned before inauguration day.


  • #8353
    boardise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,530 ✭✭✭boardise


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The Army will not get involved. Trump can cry and whine all he wants but his term will end on the 20th January. The way he's behaving I wouldn't be surprised if he is escorted out of the White House on that day.

    Presumably if he's still in the WH after Jan 20 he could be done for something like trespassing. Hopefully it won't come to anything this bizarre.


  • #8354
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    omega man wrote: »
    Georgia on my mind.




    Salpa?




    Mine too


  • #8355
    Smee_Again
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Boggles wrote: »
    Can you be pardoned before been found guilty of a federal crime?

    :confused:

    Regardless, the investigations in NY are at state level not federal and the President can only pardon federal crimes not state crimes.

    Maybe Cuomo will pardon him:D


  • #8356
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    I'd imagine that you have to have something to be pardoned from. No?



    I'd doubt you can be pardoned from an allegation/rumour. You probably have to be charged and convicted.



    Would probably have to organise to be charged, convicted and then pardoned before inauguration day.

    Ford gave Nixon an unconditional pardon for anything illegal he did or might have done.


  • #8357
    mouldybiscuits
    Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭mouldybiscuits


    I'm sure an investigation will get to the bottom of it if there was cheating in the election. Twitter and the MSM are disgraceful, attempting to silence Trump before any investigation into these allegations. It's making me think they have something to hide.


  • #8358
    Smee_Again
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Great stuff Joe

    Never in doubt . Well done America

    Big fan of Biden, are you?


  • #8359
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    If all 4 states go Biden are we in the realms of a EC slight landslide? Not a blue wave but a significant victory for Biden.

    Georgia is everything to shoot Trump down, it’s run completely by Republicans and if Biden can hold on you could see the GOP really turn on Trump.


  • #8360
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1324500351517626369


  • #8361
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    I'd imagine that you have to have something to be pardoned from. No?



    I'd doubt you can be pardoned from an allegation/rumour. You probably have to be charged and convicted.



    Would probably have to organise to be charged, convicted and then pardoned before inauguration day.

    Read up on the Ford Nixon pardon, where Ford pardoned Nixon for anything that he may have done when president...... American is one messed up place, but it seems entirely possible that these pardons can be granted. I guess it depends on how badly Pence would want to be president.


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  • #8362
    TomSweeney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Lets just accept that Trump is the worst president in history, he's a nazi fascist with an IQ of under 70 ... ok ok ...

    Whats going on tho right now is an absolute disgrace, Georgia stuck on 99% for the last day and a half ... takes them that long to count 1% ?
    And as soon as Biden leads (now he is)... it will be 100% soon

    Why couldn't they beat him so easily, if he is that bad, they should have gotten 300+ electoral votes ?

    Percentages climbing steadily on election night and as soon as Trump has a clear lead a dramatic slowdown, everyone is talking about PA but GA is even worse!!


    Terrible terrible system, they need electronic secure voting for 2024.


  • #8363
    85603
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭85603


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1324500351517626369

    Der arizonavictoy war eine behfel!!


  • #8364
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,922 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Boggles wrote: »
    Can you be pardoned before been found guilty of a federal crime?

    :confused:

    Yes, if trump resigns Pence could pardon him for any and all federal crimes. Only federal crimes mind, NY will still be chasing him for state charges.


  • #8365
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,947 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    screamer wrote: »
    Read up on the Ford Nixon pardon, where Ford pardoned Nixon for anything that he may have done when president...... American is one messed up place, but it seems entirely possible that these pardons can be granted. I guess it depends on how badly Pence would want to be president.


    The president can only pardon federal criminal convictions though, NY as a state is still gonna come after him hard.


  • #8366
    jill_valentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    jill_valentine wrote: »
    Imagine what the narrative would have been if the votes were counted in order. The mail ins would have clinched PA and several others from the get go, and the visual would have been of Trump trying and failing to catch up.

    QMTA - This is comparable actually to the smaller 2018 elections which were initially presented as disastrous to Dems (maybe out of reflex...)

    When all was home and hosed, it turned out they did really remarkably well, and there's a solid argument that Stacey Abrams, credited with turning Georgia blue tonight, was cheated out of a seat then.


  • #8367
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Been wondering that myself.

    Maybe check the prison forum?


  • #8368
    TomSweeney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    ... and they should have chosen Tulsi Gabbard, I am sure she could have beaten Trump with 300+ EV.

    And she is a democrat we can be proud of, I would have cheered for her. - edit and more importantly, millions of US Trump voters would have voted for her!!


  • #8369
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,922 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    Lets just accept that Trump is the worst president in history, he's a nazi fascist with an IQ of under 70 ... ok ok ...

    Whats going on tho right now is an absolute disgrace, Georgia stuck on 99% for the last day and a half ... takes them that long to count 1% ?
    And as soon as Biden leads (now he is)... it will be 100% soon

    Why couldn't they beat him so easily, if he is that bad, they should have gotten 300+ electoral votes ?

    Percentages climbing steadily on election night and as soon as Trump has a clear lead a dramatic slowdown, everyone is talking about PA but GA is even worse!!


    Terrible terrible system, they need electronic secure voting for 2024.

    it looks like biden may well get 300+ electoral college votes


  • #8370
    BrentMused
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭BrentMused


    How long now until some loon, inspired by Trump's outrageous comments, ends up shooting up a count centre and killing innocent people over this? :(


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  • #8371
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Ford gave Nixon an unconditional pardon for anything illegal he did or might have done.




    Was it anything he might have done - or anything he might have done as President?


    I'd doubt they would give the current fella the same blanket pardon given all the allegations of dodgy stuff............but you never know. If they can technically do it then they might. It would be forgotten about in 4 years by the supporters anyway



    Even if he got that , that pardon wouldn't extend to his associates I presume too.


    Edit: Most questions answered by other posts while I was writing this one.


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