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Overheal · 06-11-2020 03:45AM

Do you reckon Trump will suddenly believe in the integrity of the election when Arizona flips back his way?

Overheal · 06-11-2020 03:46AM

sondagefaux wrote: »

Arizona will be posting batches of results at 9am and 7pm local time (4am and 2pm Friday here).

Best twitter account for Arizona results is @Garrett_Archer

Best twitter account for Nevada results is @RalstonReports

Best place for Georgia and Pennsylvania reports is CNN.

Georgia's Clayton County (suburban Atlanta, last batch of votes split 84.9% for Biden) is due to give a final result for about 5,700 ballots at Midnight local time/5am here.

"Of the votes yet to be counted in Georgia, more than 5,000 come from Clayton County, a heavily Democratic area south of Atlanta." - NYT

HDMI · 06-11-2020 03:47AM

Aleece2020 wrote: »

Georgia gap is less than 1k with only a few ten-thousand votes to go. I suspect we might get a result sooner rather than later.

Can't give a result because of the overseas votes and provional votes.

y0ssar1an22 · 06-11-2020 03:47AM

HDMI wrote: »

If the Senate is up for grabs then 100's of millions

if i come in through the southern border, and i quids in?

is it true, i can break the law and still not be sent home?

HDMI · 06-11-2020 03:48AM

Overheal wrote: »

Do you reckon Trump will suddenly believe in the integrity of the election when Arizona flips back his way?

Will be funny what he has to say to Fox and them calling it early

~Rebel~ · 06-11-2020 03:50AM

HDMI wrote: »

Can't give a result because of the overseas votes and provional votes.

Yeah, with how close that it it's very hard for them to make a definitive call till those additional votes come in. By the time they do, PA will likely have already made it irrelevant.

HDMI · 06-11-2020 03:50AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

if i come in through the southern border, and i quids in?

is it true, i can break the law and still not be sent home?

Even if you're a kid in a diaper best you will get is a trip back to Mexico.

Tell me how · 06-11-2020 03:51AM

HDMI wrote: »

Even if you're a kid in a diaper best you will get is a trip back to Mexico.

Or you might never get to see your parents again.

HDMI · 06-11-2020 03:53AM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Yeah, with how close that it it's very hard for them to make a definitive call till those additional votes come in. By the time they do, PA will likely have already made it irrelevant.

Still questions on the PA result if they are counting votes that came in after the 3rd. Justice Alito in the Supreme court left the door open for those to be challenged. The court in PA messed up ruling that votes could be accepted after the 3rd when their own state rules say only the legislature can make that decision. Fun times ahead.

HDMI · 06-11-2020 03:54AM

Tell me how wrote: »

Or you might never get to see your parents again.

Were they your parents to begin with

Rjd2 · 06-11-2020 03:54AM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Yeah, to be honest I was dismayed when Biden first won the nomination. But the way circumstances have developed, it's become a clever pragmatic choice.

No-one is passionate about him, but he's made himself a political everyman - as you say he has the obvious Obama connection and the rust belt support, but has also tailored his policies to be more socially conscious than you would have expected from him.

As I said above, Climate is the big one for me, as it transcends national governance, it's just a global imperative. But stuff like healthcare, and raising federal minimum wage are big. The latter especially... it's one of the things that makes the US a joke when it comes to the supposed American Dream. Trumps employment figures have been good, but with a current federal minimum wage of 7.25 it means it's easy to have a job, but hard to make a living. I know far too many people working 80+ hours a week across 3 jobs because of that minimum wage.

The Biden we see running tonight is I think sort of a souped-up re-fitted Biden with key bits of other candidates strapped on. And that I can live with.

Win with Biden or lose with Bernie sadly so yep the Democrat base picked the right choice.

And before any Bernie fans slag me off, I love the man, defended him for years , but I don't think he would have won on Tuesday night sadly.

America just isn't ready for that sort of president at this moment in time.:(

Its now up to him and his surrogates in the party to carry the torch and make sure Biden doesn't get complacent.

Overheal · 06-11-2020 03:54AM

HDMI wrote: »

Still questions on the PA result if they are counting votes that came in after the 3rd. Justice Alito in the Supreme court left the door open for those to be challenged. The court in PA messed up ruling that votes could be accepted after the 3rd when their own state rules say only the legislature can make that decision. Fun times ahead.

PA legislature would be willing to tell it's voters their votes don't count after all? Bit slow to that

~Rebel~ · 06-11-2020 03:55AM

HDMI wrote: »

Still questions on the PA result if they are counting votes that came in after the 3rd. Justice Alito in the Supreme court left the door open for those to be challenged. The court in PA messed up ruling that votes could be accepted after the 3rd when their own state rules say only the legislature can make that decision. Fun times ahead.

True, but once the count is done, he's projected to win by 40,000 or more, so the relevance of those votes may lessen.
I also think most of those will count anyway, if there appears to be supporting evidence that they were sent before the election date either through being postmarked, or coming in within the context of other mail-bundles that have postmarked pieces.

Frustratingly, a lot of 'wait-and-see' alright!

Overheal · 06-11-2020 03:55AM

"Philadelphia releases its first batch of results in hours, netting Biden more than 10,000 votes. The Trump lead in Pennsylvania is now around 26,000 votes." - NYT

Can we please put a lid on this election before this thread reaches 10k? We started Part 4 the moment the polls closed and first results came out of florida. Week from hell

~Rebel~ · 06-11-2020 03:57AM

Rjd2 wrote: »

Win with Biden or lose with Bernie sadly so yep the Democrat base picked the right choice.

And before any Bernie fans slag me off, I love the man, defended him for years , but I don't think he would have won on Tuesday night sadly.

America just isn't ready for that sort of president at this moment in time.:(

Yeah, agreed. This was a time people needed an alternative to Trump that didn't scare them. And Bernie scares a lot of people.

I still reckon Bernie would've had a chance back in 2016 when the country wanted something radical. But after 4 years of radical, they just want the equivalent of a nice quiet dark room, a bottle of water and some aspirin.

HDMI · 06-11-2020 03:58AM

Overheal wrote: »

PA legislature would be willing to tell it's voters their votes don't count after all? Bit slow to that

Not sure the legislature can retrospectively change the law. When the supreme court kicked it back they should have changed the rule rapidly.

Overheal · 06-11-2020 04:00AM

HDMI wrote: »

Not sure the legislature can retrospectively change the law. When the supreme court kicked it back they should have changed the rule rapidly.

The point being wouldn't it be up to the Legislature to sue and say they were damaged by the ruling?

y0ssar1an22 · 06-11-2020 04:01AM

HDMI wrote: »

Even if you're a kid in a diaper best you will get is a trip back to Mexico.

does anyone know asylum laws?

HDMI · 06-11-2020 04:03AM

Overheal wrote: »

The point being wouldn't it be up to the Legislature to sue and say they were damaged by the ruling?

I think the issue would be fought out in the supreme court Trump v the PA legislature and with the current majority I don't think he would lose.

Tippex · 06-11-2020 04:06AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

does anyone know asylum laws?

Better call Saul

Overheal · 06-11-2020 04:08AM

Tippex wrote: »

Better call Saul

Saul would be like "is this your cellphone?" And the prosecution would be SHOOK :pac:

HDMI · 06-11-2020 04:08AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

does anyone know ansylam laws?

Not me anyway, I was living in Ireland with my american wife, married 10 years and it was a real pain and took the best part of two years to get in. It was funny because to get her into Ireland in 2005 all I had to do was do a short note on a piece of paper saying I accepted responsibility and she was allowed stay. I assumed I would be granted the same going the opposite way but ended up having to dance through hoops to get it sorted.

06-11-2020 04:09AM

HDMI wrote: »

ended up having to dance through hoops to get it sorted.

jaysus the security routine gets stranger and stranger wha

y0ssar1an22 · 06-11-2020 04:13AM

Tippex wrote: »

Better call Saul

twas a slow few seasons, chuck was there for too long.

the point of asylum is you are fleeing oppression, and you seek that in the 1st country you arrive in.

joseywhales · 06-11-2020 04:16AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

twas a slow few seasons, chuck was there for too long.

the point of asylum is you are fleeing oppression, and you seek that in the 1st country you arrive in.

A chuck with the literal tin hat made the whole thing, he was the spice.

Overheal · 06-11-2020 04:18AM

We all know who is carrying that last season tho

sondagefaux · 06-11-2020 04:18AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

if i come in through the southern border, and i quids in?

is it true, i can break the law and still not be sent home?

You really don't know much about US law and policy in key areas, do you?

If you enter the USA without permission you can be jailed and deported.

Claiming asylum is not a get out of jail free card; asylum seekers mostly have their claims rejected, are held in detention centres while their claims are being processed and get deported if they fail.

You didn't know about the Paris Agreement earlier. It's an international treaty to combat climate change, which Trump withdrew the USA from. Biden will rejoin the USA to it. Given how much the USA contributes to climate change, it would be a real blow if the USA stayed out of it.

The internet contains every bit of information you need to know about Trump's actions as President, his policies and about Biden's policies.

From what I can see of you, you're supporting Trump based on bits and pieces of half-arsed nonsense picked up at random, instead of doing your own research into his policies and actions, and then get píssed off when people challenge you about your lack of knowledge.

Very Trumpian...

y0ssar1an22 · 06-11-2020 04:18AM

HDMI wrote: »

Not me anyway, I was living in Ireland with my american wife, married 10 years and it was a real pain and took the best part of two years to get in. It was funny because to get her into Ireland in 2005 all I had to do was do a short note on a piece of paper saying I accepted responsibility and she was allowed stay. I assumed I would be granted the same going the opposite way but ended up having to dance through hoops to get it sorted.

congrats! fair play. was it hard work? sher i might just stroll up and i'm in?

y0ssar1an22 · 06-11-2020 04:20AM

joseywhales wrote: »

A chuck with the literal tin hat made the whole thing, he was the spice.

chuck will never photocopy as well again me thinks.

sondagefaux · 06-11-2020 04:22AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

twas a slow few seasons, chuck was there for too long.

the point of asylum is you are fleeing oppression, and you seek that in the 1st country you arrive in.

There's no onus on asylum seekers to seek refuge in the first safe country (not the first country) they arrive in. They can seek it anywhere they choose.

If you had the faintest idea of international law on asylum or about the Paris Agreement, you might be worth discussing issues with.

As it stands, you're a blowhard know-nothing.

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