Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

Tell me how · 06-11-2020 03:12AM

US2 wrote: »

You don't answer a question with a question.

Read the thread. This poster has been answered, he just doesn't like it.

He's like a Japanese guy fighting on an island in the pacific years after WWII finished.

HDMI · 06-11-2020 03:12AM

J2CVC wrote: »

I follow the science. And this is where I suspect we will differ.

You should have said it's science in the first place because that makes it more believable... What tripe

J2CVC · 06-11-2020 03:13AM

US2 wrote: »

You just have to Google his policies first yeah, otherwise you'd have answered.

You're as sharp as a tack US2.

~Rebel~ · 06-11-2020 03:14AM

J2CVC wrote: »

I think the thinking is that yes he's not going to lose anyone, but by acting less belligerent than usual he may have won a few voters.

Really? I doubt that... I really don't think him being a little less rude in a debate was going to draw in anyone that is still somehow ok with such classics as; "grab 'em by the pussy".

We've had four years of belligerence, along with a lifetime before that. An alright debate is not changing anything there.

y0ssar1an22 · 06-11-2020 03:14AM

Tell me how wrote: »

Which of Biden's policies do you disagree with, and why?

his idea to raise corporation tax to pay for people who dont work.

please tell me thats no true?

Tippex · 06-11-2020 03:15AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

what policies do you expect from joe?

Will you quit it with this question this is about the 15th time you have asked it tonight

paleoperson · 06-11-2020 03:15AM

There is zero reason why not to call Georgia and Pennsylvania at this point. The writing is on the wall. It's like they're almost playing with Trump and his supporters at this point - put them out of their misery.

jill_valentine · 06-11-2020 03:15AM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Considering he's running as the de-facto "not trump", as someone who won't be so divisive and destructive to american communities, for a lot of people that is enough.

Personally, his movement on climate alone is enough for me, and probably a lot of others I'd imagine. Everything else is short term annoyance, stuff that gets rolled back and reenacted term after term, but climate is the one thing we're running out of time on - it's my number 1 issue anyway. I'd rather Biden even be pushing much more on it, but of the two he's still the more active, and the one who's party actually recognises the scale of the issue.

Climate's a big one. His Covid measures and CDC engagement is really major for me also. His tax propositions are pretty solid.

The fact he isn't going to install SC judges who consider people like me fundamentally distorted human beings, that's pretty great. The fact his VC isn't a Dominionist crank who hates women, also significant. The fact he won't stack his foreign affairs mechanisms with Evangelical Endtimers who believe war in the Middle East is a religious aspiration, also good.

And just for fun, his pledge to form a task force to reunite the ICE orphans is a significant sentimental one.

nolivesmatter · 06-11-2020 03:15AM

Tell me how wrote: »

Read the thread. This poster has been answered, he just doesn't like it.

He's like a Japanese guy fighting on an island in the pacific years after WWII finished.

lol wouldn't have expected that from you. Funny though.

Tell me how · 06-11-2020 03:16AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

his idea to raise corporation tax to pay for people who dont work.

please tell me thats no true?

It's not true.

06-11-2020 03:16AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

what policies do you expect from joe?

Precisely the same ones that led to Trump.

y0ssar1an22 · 06-11-2020 03:16AM

Tippex wrote: »

Will you quit it with this question this is about the 15th time you have asked it tonight

gimme a simple answer so.

Strumms · 06-11-2020 03:17AM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Considering he's running as the de-facto "not trump", as someone who won't be so divisive and destructive to american communities, for a lot of people that is enough.

Personally, his movement on climate alone is enough for me, and probably a lot of others I'd imagine. Everything else is short term annoyance, stuff that gets rolled back and reenacted term after term, but climate is the one thing we're running out of time on - it's my number 1 issue anyway. I'd rather Biden even be pushing much more on it, but of the two he's still the more active, and the one who's party actually recognises the scale of the issue.

Trump has repeatedly questioned the science behind global warming.... for the simple reason it’s not compatible with his status as first and foremost being the friend and ally of big business, 2 days ago...Trump exited the US from the Paris climate accord. Why ? Because he wants to suit his mates in big business, to be successful. He values balance sheets and the health thereof ahead of the health of the planet.

06-11-2020 03:18AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

gimme a simple answer so.

You'll be waiting a while.

Biden's campaign was "I'm not Trump" then sat back and let Trump lose his own race.

Not a sliver of policy nor substance at any stage. All "the soul of the nation" malarkey.

namloc1980 · 06-11-2020 03:18AM

Tippex wrote: »

Will you quit it with this question this is about the 15th time you have asked it tonight

Ignore button works wonders with posters like that.

Rjd2 · 06-11-2020 03:18AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

what policies do you expect from joe?

He ran and ultimately won on decency porn really. If people cared about policy then Warren or Bernie would have won the primary over him but ultimately they were crushed.

Overall he will be a better president than Trump on pretty much everything bar foreign policy where they are both hawks, but stuff like climate change, minimum wage are things he will be good on to be fair and those are issues that are pretty important right now.

He's not the president America needs in 2020, but when the alternative is Trump then yeah he had to win.

I don't expect a remarkable presidency, but even as a critic of him, I can't wait for him to be president as another 4 years of Trump would have been to much for everyone.

y0ssar1an22 · 06-11-2020 03:20AM

Tell me how wrote: »

It's not true.

i don't know!

so tell me, what are bidens plans/policies/ideas

Strumms · 06-11-2020 03:22AM

Rjd2 wrote: »

He ran and ultimately won on decency porn really. If people cared about policy then Warren or Bernie would have won the primary over him but ultimately they were crushed.

Overall he will be a better president than Trump on pretty much everything bar foreign policy where they are both hawks, but stuff like climate change, minimum wage are things he will be good on to be fair and those are issues that are pretty important right now.

With Biden, you get the essence he’s the type of personality who wants everybody, the entire country to do well... Trump, the man makes no real apology for just being for the money people, his gang.

Beholders · 06-11-2020 03:22AM

HDMI wrote: »

Oddly the vote he would want for Biden is coming from the poorest parts of Atlanta where education is a real problem. So I guess each side will take their share of the "less educated voters"

You do releases you don't have to be educated to understand someone's making a fool of you, in fairness I think it happens naturally, that you come up with that idea, all on your own

HDMI · 06-11-2020 03:22AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i don't know!

so tell me, what are bidens plans/policies/ideas

Hot cup of cocoa before bedtime around 8pm while President Harris gets ready to take over, so best to ask what her policies are. Biden hasn't got 4 years in him.

Tippex · 06-11-2020 03:22AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

gimme a simple answer so.

Its irrelevant for me like most posters here as I have no vote.

But the fact that he will get a handle on the covid response and be pro-active.
Rejoin paris accord.
Put a focus back on climate change.
Sort out the whole medicaid end of things.
Be a lot less divisive than Trump has been.

J2CVC · 06-11-2020 03:23AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i don't know!

so tell me, what are bidens plans/policies/ideas

So you sided with Trump without even knowing Biden's policies? What attracted you so strongly to Donald?

HDMI · 06-11-2020 03:24AM

Beholders wrote: »

You do releases you don't have to be educated to understand someone's making a fool of you, in fairness I think it happens naturally, that you come up with that idea.

I'm uneducated white and live in small town USA so you might need to spell out more clearly what you're trying to say to me.

y0ssar1an22 · 06-11-2020 03:24AM

Strumms wrote: »

With Biden, you get the essence he’s the type of personality who wants everybody, the entire country to do well... Trump, the man makes no real apology for just being for the money people, his gang.

as in a medal for everyone?

Tell me how · 06-11-2020 03:24AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i don't know!

so tell me, what are bidens plans/policies/ideas

You don't know what?

Biden's plans/policies/idea are on his website.

Tell us which ones you have an issue with, or maybe just pick the ones which you think Trump has a better plan in relation to the subject and maybe summarise for us the weakness in Biden's plan and how Trumps is stronger in that respect.

Thanks.

~Rebel~ · 06-11-2020 03:25AM

Rjd2 wrote: »

He ran and ultimately won on decency porn really. If people cared about policy then Warren or Bernie would have won the primary over him but ultimately they were crushed.

Overall he will be a better president than Trump on pretty much everything bar foreign policy where they are both hawks, but stuff like climate change, minimum wage are things he will be good on to be fair and those are issues that are pretty important right now.

It's not quite as simple as that... you say if people cared about policy - but which policy, and what position on it?

Personally, I'd agree, in terms of policy I'd rather Bernie (particularly because he's even stronger on climate). But Bernie is devisive. Bernie wouldn't have won this election.

Biden being a more watered down candidate becomes no-ones favourite candidate, but becomes everyone's compromise. And ultimately that's what an election is for... to find the candidate the most people are ok with, rather than the one that a smaller group are fanatical about.

Biden appeals just enough to the Bernie bro's to bring them out, but also has enough clout with the historic centre of the party to keep the party support intact behind him, and has a reputation for working across the aisle and strong relationships with a number of high profile Republicans (gave the eulogy at John McCains funeral and was backed by his wife for this election), so had the possibility to flip voters too.

He's the ultimate 'good-enough'.

Tippex · 06-11-2020 03:25AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Ignore button works wonders with posters like that.

It does indeed but I put kid on ignore last week and then realised I was seeing them being quoted so much and missing part of the lunacy I had to remove the ignore lol

jill_valentine · 06-11-2020 03:25AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i don't know!

so tell me, what are bidens plans/policies/ideas

People aren't humouring you because you've been provided with this answer both in informal paraphrasing and in links to formally illustrated formats. Pretending you don't see those responses looks foolish, rather than being some cunning chess move the way you seem to think.

It's very clear you're asking the question in bad faith, so people are batting you around for sport like a cat with a felt toy in the meantime, but it is tedious to me. You've been answered, you know you've been answered, you can't pretend you haven't been answered, and beyond that you're maliciously spamming.

So with all that clarified beyond doubt I'll drop you onto ignore to save the scrolling.

Rjd2 · 06-11-2020 03:26AM

Strumms wrote: »

With Biden, you get the essence he’s the type of personality who wants everybody, the entire country to do well... Trump, the man makes no real apology for just being for the money people, his gang.

Wall street backed Biden hugely this time and if Mitch holds the senate its champagne time for them.

I don't really buy the middle class persona that Biden sells, but I do think he is politician that will go where the party and nation decides.

It's up to the left and the voters now to determine how the presidency plays out.

He may surprise even his critics, because I do think he will recognise 4 years of nothingness leads to something horrific in 2024.

He won't want his legacy to be the man who brought someone like Tucker Carlson the presidency.

Hopefully we get a stimulus passed now as I think both parties agree they have to do something to defuse the nation after such a horrific few months.

J2CVC · 06-11-2020 03:27AM

jill_valentine wrote: »

People aren't humouring you because you've been provided with this answer both in informal paraphrasing and in links to formally illustrated formats. Pretending you don't see those responses looks foolish, rather than being some cunning chess move the way you seem to think.

It's very clear you're asking the question in bad faith, so people are batting you around for sport like a cat with a felt toy in the meantime, but it is tedious to me. You've been answered, you know you've been answered, you're maliciously spamming beyond that.

So with all that clarified beyond doubt I'll drop you onto ignore to save the scrolling.

Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! :eek::D:pac:

And with that I think I'll go to bed.

Night all.

Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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