Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

ohnonotgmail · 05-11-2020 09:37PM

the gap in GA keeps getting smaller and smaller.

km991148 · 05-11-2020 09:38PM

cave_dweller wrote: »

No, because Donald Trump is the President of the United States. All of the others saying that are not the President of the United States and can speculate without consequences. You can act as dense as you like with posts like this, but the majority of people see right through it :rolleyes:

Being president doesn't give you carte blanche to disrespect the democratic process. That's what he does every time he opens his mouth regarding fake numbers and cries of fraud. He is sh!tting in the mouths of the counting staff, the voters, the law and the entire process.

You had your election now stfu and show some respect and responsibility.

OscarMIlde · 05-11-2020 09:38PM

py2006 wrote: »

It is hard to conceive how any rational, reasonably intelligent, right thinking human could support a personality like Trump as president or even has a friend or colleague.

What floors me more is the realisation that there are people here in Ireland who like him, support him and hope he does well.

Like what is wrong with people?

Big overlap between them and the anti-lockdown/anti-mask/casedemic crowd on the coronavirus threads. Basically mé féiners with inadequate bull**** detectors.

declanflynn · 05-11-2020 09:38PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Anybody think its ironic that some who critisized Trump for claiming victory "early" are now claiming Biden has won despite counting still ongoing?

It depends on who wins

tobefrank321 · 05-11-2020 09:38PM

8-10 wrote: »

I disagree. It was wrong to call it when they did, even if it ends up going the way they declared it. It's inconsistent with what is happening in other races they aren't calling and as the largest conservative news outlet, guess what's happened since? Conservatives have ran out to the count centre in Phoenix chanting 'count the votes' as they believe that every vote should be counted and the maths showed that there were way more ballots outstanding than the margin between the candidates and the mail in's hadn't started yet. The race also narrowed multiple times today.

It was too early.

FOX news called Arizona. Trump's biggest supporter in the media.

ohnonotgmail · 05-11-2020 09:39PM

NovemberWren wrote: »

@ 8-10. "stats were that 68% of Pennsylvania mail-in requests were Democratic".

soo confused here; how can they know they were Democrat voters? if it is by 'areas'? [even by 'poorer' areas]; then were these areas bought by the Democrats.

I know how stoopid that sounds, as it is politics; but it seems an oddly previous carving-up of the turf.

you're right, that does sound stupid yet you still said it.

y0ssar1an22 · 05-11-2020 09:39PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Me thinks the US will face a constitutional crisis. Not a chance Trump will concede.

if there is a legitimate question over the veracity of the votes (or counting of them) i would say he is correct.

if there is no question, then please just step aside graciously.

personally, i would prefer a clean transfer; get it done, and let joe get on with running it.

these drawn out contests help no one, only further cause polarisation.

OscarMIlde · 05-11-2020 09:39PM

Panrich wrote: »

And we're well on the way to President Camacho

Camacho knew how to delegate though. He solved the crop crisis!

sondagefaux · 05-11-2020 09:40PM

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Joe Biden never denounced the prominent socialists supporting him in his party.

Yeah, he may as well call himself Joe Chi-Minh, the filthy Commie bastard!

y0ssar1an22 · 05-11-2020 09:40PM

anyway, i was occupied for the last 2 hours or so...any big developments?

Aleece2020 · 05-11-2020 09:40PM

endainoz wrote: »

Assuming he actually does concede. It's actually difficult to picture him saying those words.

I don't think he will. It'll be an inflammatory speech claiming fraud and rigging against him. There will be protests and riots from his supporters because he'll borderline encourage them to go out there and kick up **** until the country is forced to abandon democracy and accept him.

PalLimerick · 05-11-2020 09:40PM

sondagefaux wrote: »

Rhymes with ass...

It certainly does, however it doesn't take away from the fact, it's not a shoddy Hotel regardless of its owner.

E mac · 05-11-2020 09:41PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

You can imagine melania sitting next to obama and having a great old time. She always seems to be a much happier person when she is seated next to Barack.[/QUOTE

She's a much happier person when she's in the company of anyone else but her husband.

8-10 · 05-11-2020 09:41PM

Penn wrote: »

Didn't hear that one. Should definitely retract.

No it was deliberate. Bob Bauer was involved in 2000 and learned his lesson. He's said before that in 2000 they were wrong to say 'let's count the votes and see who wins' instead of declaring victory and defending it. He's said that the declaration of victory by Bush's lawyers gave them a much stronger position in front of the Supreme Court.

They're smart, Biden would never go out and say it, and his press conference last night was after these comments, but as his lawyer that is exactly the picture he needed to state in that briefing and if you watch the full presentation and remember the context that this was 24 hours+ ago when victory looked a lot less likely, you'll see it wasn't just a throwaway comment to retract now, it was part of their tactic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBLHLt2IntU

cave_dweller · 05-11-2020 09:42PM

8-10 wrote: »

I disagree. It was wrong to call it when they did, even if it ends up going the way they declared it. It's inconsistent with what is happening in other races they aren't calling and as the largest conservative news outlet, guess what's happened since? Conservatives have ran out to the count centre in Phoenix chanting 'count the votes' as they believe that every vote should be counted and the maths showed that there were way more ballots outstanding than the margin between the candidates and the mail in's hadn't started yet. The race also narrowed multiple times today.

It was too early.

They don't stop counting votes because a media organisation has called it for one candidate or another. That's not how it works. It had no bearing on the result. It changed the momentum around the election, but the actual vote counting was unaffected. The vote counting matters, the rest doesn't.

Penn · 05-11-2020 09:42PM

NovemberWren wrote: »

@ 8-10. "stats were that 68% of Pennsylvania mail-in requests were Democratic".

soo confused here; how can they know they were Democrat voters? if it is by 'areas'? [even by 'poorer' areas]; then were these areas bought by the Democrats.

I know how stoopid that sounds, as it is politics; but it seems an oddly previous carving-up of the turf.

In America, many people tend to be registered members of one of the parties. That's what allows them to vote in primaries for Dem/GOP candidates. So it would be on their public record that they're a registered member of the party.

tobefrank321 · 05-11-2020 09:42PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Does his failure to actually concede matter? I assumed the vote on electoral colleges determined it ultimately. Raving loon removed from office feels like how it'll go at this stage.

Fairly sure the founding fathers and constitution foresaw a scenario when a president refused to leave office. They foresaw more complicated things such as the need for electoral colleges.

y0ssar1an22 · 05-11-2020 09:42PM

Aleece2020 wrote: »

I don't think he will. It'll be an inflammatory speech claiming fraud and rigging against him. There will be protests and riots from his supporters because he'll borderline encourage them to go out there and kick up **** until the country is forced to abandon democracy and accept him.

surely the 1st amendment will prevent that?

declanflynn · 05-11-2020 09:42PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

We know how some groups acted when Hillary lost. We know there are some groups preparing for violence when Trump wins. The (IMO) false narritive of Biden on the verge of winning being perpetuated by the mainstream media is building false hope among these groups. They will react violently when Biden loses. Itll be worse if the result is not known for some time.

Half Tory half redneck is some combination

ohnonotgmail · 05-11-2020 09:44PM

E mac wrote: »

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

You can imagine melania sitting next to obama and having a great old time. She always seems to be a much happier person when she is seated next to Barack.

She's a much happier person when she's in the company of anyone else but her husband.

drunkmonkey · 05-11-2020 09:44PM

briany wrote: »

Yes. He would actually try to be a statesman

Trump wasn't elected for his Statesman abilities. He's done sheet Biden would never dream of.
Instead of nuclear war we got a short documentary on Rocket Man.

briany · 05-11-2020 09:44PM

8-10 wrote: »

I disagree. It was wrong to call it when they did, even if it ends up going the way they declared it. It's inconsistent with what is happening in other races they aren't calling and as the largest conservative news outlet, guess what's happened since? Conservatives have ran out to the count centre in Phoenix chanting 'count the votes' as they believe that every vote should be counted and the maths showed that there were way more ballots outstanding than the margin between the candidates and the mail in's hadn't started yet. The race also narrowed multiple times today.

It was too early.

?

Every vote *is* counted. AP can judge a race as they see fit, and they don't need to budget for the moronity of the kind of person who will march down to the polling station and be a nuisance based on their bad mathematics. I have a feeling that crowd would be down there to chant something or other in the event the thing isn't going their way anyway.

PalLimerick · 05-11-2020 09:45PM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

if there is a legitimate question over the veracity of the votes (or counting of them) i would say he is correct.

if there is no question, then please just step aside graciously.

personally, i would prefer a clean transfer; get it done, and let joe get on with running it.

these drawn out contests help no one, only further cause polarisation.

Lol, let Joe get on with running it. Those Democrats did everything to obstruct Trump. This is going the whole way to the Supreme Court.

OscarMIlde · 05-11-2020 09:45PM

donvito99 wrote: »

Trump supports Brexit. Biden does not. The fact that Trump owns a shoddy hotel in Doonbeg doesn't come in to it. Ireland stands to gain a great deal if Biden follows through on Democratic Party commitments to the GFA.

In summary, you're talking out of your hoop

Trump supports Brexit because once out of the EU the UK will desperately need new trading partners, and Trump knows he can squeeze them for all their worth. That's all he cares about. The democrats will do the same, they care about the US not Britain. Both democratic and republican parties have solid Irish American supporters and will likely want the Good Friday agreement upheld.

drunkmonkey · 05-11-2020 09:46PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

E mac wrote: »

If I hit you back with a Michelle O'Bama meme we both know who's getting a belt of the weekly ban hammer.:p

donvito99 · 05-11-2020 09:47PM

PalLimerick wrote: »

Lol, let Joe get on with running it. Those Democrats did everything to obstruct Trump. This is going the whole way to the Supreme Court.

They ran a campaign?

All the while, Trump's administration cripple the postal service to prevent Americans from voting.

tobefrank321 · 05-11-2020 09:47PM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

anyway, i was occupied for the last 2 hours or so...any big developments?

Biden asked Obama what's the Oval Office curtain dimensions.

briany · 05-11-2020 09:47PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

He's done sheet Biden would never dream of.

He sure has. Like claim the only way he could lose the election was if it was rigged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LJ9sNsXERU

ohnonotgmail · 05-11-2020 09:47PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

If I hit you back with a Michelle O'Bama meme we both know who's getting a belt of the weekly ban hammer.:p

Would she be one of the Limerick O'Bamas?

steddyeddy · 05-11-2020 09:48PM

I have to say I overestimated Trump supporters. There has to be something missing upstairs when Trump loosing an election causes you to make up conspiracy theories rather than accept reality. That level of disassociation is bordering on schizophrenic.

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