Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

Real Life wrote: »

For good reason right now, can't be compared to what Cubans were fleeing. Joe Biden also can't be compared to what the Cubans were fleeing, Trump just got inside their heads and played off their fear.

Joe Biden never denounced the prominent socialists supporting him in his party. Some of you betray yourselves making out everyone you disagree with and whole racial groups could only be mind-controlled to vote for Trump or even against Biden

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You telling me Biden isn't going to blame Trump for it all going pear shaped on him.

If Biden looses? No I don't think he will come out and blame Trump by name.
I think he will give a nod to people's democratic rights and express disappointment. But I don't think he will come out with blame.

Trump on the other hand.. he will blames everyone except himself.

Let's see..

Penn wrote: »

Did they? Most quotes from Biden's side I've seen have said they expect to be declared the winners when all the votes are counted, or they're confident they'll win etc, but not that they actually have won.

https://www.axios.com/biden-lawyer-bob-bauer-prematurely-declares-victory-b30adb52-4e28-4083-b5c4-7bb930da4e7f.html

Yep, Bob Bauer said explicitly "we’ve won the election and we’re going to defend that election" in a live briefing last night

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Joe Biden never denounced the prominent socialists supporting him in his party. Some of you betray yourselves making out everyone you disagree with and whole racial groups could only be mind-controlled to vote for Trump

After some soul searching, I think I should admit that I didn't denounce them either.

Imagine Inauguration Day...when all the ex presidents are seated together. Can't imagine Trump being there making small talk and sharing a laugh with Obama /Bush/ Clinton.

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Anybody think its ironic that some who critisized Trump for claiming victory "early" are now claiming Biden has won despite counting still ongoing?

No, because Donald Trump is the President of the United States. All of the others saying that are not the President of the United States and can speculate without consequences. You can act as dense as you like with posts like this, but the majority of people see right through it :rolleyes:

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You telling me Biden isn't going to blame Trump for it all going pear shaped on him.

I think it's fine to blame a previous administration for the way they have handled things, which is a list far too long to go through here.

It is however totally wrong to make up lies with no basis of truth and creating a dangerous conspiracy theory about the election being stolen.

Any word on that cash out? Been fairly quiet about it

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You telling me Biden isn't going to blame Trump for it all going pear shaped on him.

Yes. He would actually try to be a statesman and not bitterly point the finger at everyone else when things go wrong, or post tweets about media outlets which dare criticise him.

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

If you want the votes of people who don't like socialism, yes you might want to denounce socialists in your own party.

Are you not exhausted?

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Me thinks the US will face a constitutional crisis. Not a chance Trump will concede.

He doesn't have to concede. Come the EC vite and Inauguration, that's the end of him.

briany wrote: »

It wasn't completely wrong to call Arizona. Any news outlet is perfectly within their right to call a state if they judge the race there to be won. It's not an official binding declaration. It can't influence the vote as the votes have already been cast. It's just more pettiness from Trump that he's getting worked up over what AP says. He needn't even care because all that really matters to him is the official tally.

I disagree. It was wrong to call it when they did, even if it ends up going the way they declared it. It's inconsistent with what is happening in other races they aren't calling and as the largest conservative news outlet, guess what's happened since? Conservatives have ran out to the count centre in Phoenix chanting 'count the votes' as they believe that every vote should be counted and the maths showed that there were way more ballots outstanding than the margin between the candidates and the mail in's hadn't started yet. The race also narrowed multiple times today.

It was too early.

E mac wrote: »

Imagine Inauguration Day...when all the ex presidents are seated together. Can't imagine Trump being there making small talk and sharing a laugh with Obama /Bush/ Clinton.

Yeah, I can picture Trump on inauguration day leading a massive rally of his supporters as nearby as legally allowed.

threeball wrote: »

Yes, there's good Russian money gone in to that hotel. Its in decent nick, maybe not world class though, slight exaggeration unless you've never left Clare.

It's definitely not shoddy. Have you a source for " good Russian money" gone in to Trumps Doonbeg Hotel?

@ 8-10. "stats were that 68% of Pennsylvania mail-in requests were Democratic".

soo confused here; how can they know they were Democrat voters? if it is by 'areas'? [even by 'poorer' areas]; then were these areas bought by the Democrats.

I know how stoopid that sounds, as it is politics; but it seems an oddly previous carving-up of the turf.