Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

donvito99 · 05-11-2020 08:36PM

paleoperson wrote: »

Whether Biden supports Ireland and doesn't like Brexit is hardly going to factor into the equation for Brexit negotiations. It would be like saying being friends with a councilor is going to get you a better tax rate - life don't work like that.

See this is where the fake news concept comes in - you just tell people stuff and it sounds somewhat plausible on a certain level and they go away believing it.

Trump has a personal relationship with and interests in Ireland - frankly it makes him look good as well to talk about it. Biden has no interest in helping Ireland.

Ha alright.

the guy who supports Brexit will do more for Ireland (because he has a mediocre golf course) than the guy from the political party that actually has an interest in falling in behind the Irish Government's position in the most important issue facing our country in a generation...

And then you just throw in fake news for good measure

timetogo1 · 05-11-2020 08:36PM

paleoperson wrote: »

Whether Biden supports Ireland and doesn't like Brexit is hardly going to factor into the equation for Brexit negotiations. It would be like saying being friends with a councilor is going to get you a better tax rate - life don't work like that.

See this is where the fake news concept comes in - you just tell people stuff and it sounds somewhat plausible on a certain level and they go away believing it.

Trump has a personal relationship with and interests in Ireland - frankly it makes him look good as well to talk about it. Biden has no interest in helping Ireland.

What interests has he besides the hotel / golf course.
He's got two in the UK.

Jin luk · 05-11-2020 08:37PM

BrentMused wrote: »

Biden is 1/14 now!

Trump out to 11/1.

4 years ago trump was at 200/1 in play betting after the first two states went to Clinton wouldn't rely on betting markets at all

Tippex · 05-11-2020 08:38PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Military votes can come in up to tomorrow including overseas obviously. Same as each election but suddenly mail voting is an issue.

In Pensylvania the military votes have until Tuesday to be in.

threeball · 05-11-2020 08:38PM

PalLimerick wrote: »

Shoddy Hotel, it's World class.

Yes, there's good Russian money gone in to that hotel. Its in decent nick, maybe not world class though, slight exaggeration unless you've never left Clare.

is_that_so · 05-11-2020 08:38PM

Triangle wrote: »

He allowed both sets of observers closer. The center had to be closed and reconfigured.
But it wasn't just trump observers is my point.

Yes I got that but it's no "massive" legal win.

donvito99 · 05-11-2020 08:38PM

PalLimerick wrote: »

Shoddy Hotel, it's World class.

The only thing shoddier is the golf course. Play Lehinch and stay in Adare.

Osborne · 05-11-2020 08:38PM

PalLimerick wrote: »

Shoddy Hotel, it's World class.

Correct....and I can't stand Trump.

super_furry · 05-11-2020 08:39PM

One of the Democrats crowning pieces of global statesmanship in the last 50 years is the Irish peace process and their role in the Good Friday Agreement. It's a historic source of pride for a party that still has deep Irish-American roots.

They've been pretty clear in the fact that they're going to defend it and their legacy.

extra gravy · 05-11-2020 08:39PM

drogon. wrote: »

Another allegation by Team Trump

https://twitter.com/hollandcourtney/status/1324397417479897091?s=21

and here is the outcome.

https://twitter.com/joshnbcnews/status/1324419281577271300?s=21

Taking advantage of old women now, there's really no depths they won't sink to.

Overheal · 05-11-2020 08:39PM

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froog · 05-11-2020 08:39PM

trump 2024 will never happen. i doubt he'd get past the primaries. GOP want rid of him. also he'll be 78 and he's no joe biden.

is_that_so · 05-11-2020 08:41PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Military votes can come in up to tomorrow including overseas obviously. Same as each election but suddenly mail voting is an issue.

Courtesy of a pesky bug called SARS-CoV-2!

Enquiring · 05-11-2020 08:41PM

joe40 wrote: »

People keep saying that, but it's not true at least not to the same extent. I have watched quite a bit of CNN coverage and while they obviously do not support Trump and his ridiculous tactics, there is no overt lies.
The tone is also a lot less aggressive than the likes of Fox for example.
This false equivalence that one side is as bad as the other is simply not true.

I don't watch fox and barely cnn so I can't tell you for sure about that but from looking at the landscape in America, it looks to me that both sides are as nutty as each other. Also, we can't discuss it here but foreign policy seems to be the same no matter which side gains power.

Danno · 05-11-2020 08:41PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Worth remembering a Biden win lifts Ireland's weight somewhat in the Brexit negotiations - it also doesn't look great for Boris Johnson either.

It's worth remembering Biden was VP under Obama when U$ bondholders were threatening for their pound of flesh after the banking crash in 2010.

Short memory.

LillySV · 05-11-2020 08:42PM

donvito99 wrote: »

Ha alright.

the guy who supports Brexit will do more for Ireland (because he has a mediocre golf course) than the guy from the political party that actually has an interest in falling in behind the Irish Government's position in the most important issue facing our country in a generation...

And then you just throw in fake news for good measure

What do you think Biden is going to do for Ireland , what reason/evidence have u of this also ? That man couldn’t give two f@cks about Ireland... anyone who thinks he does or will have an actual positive impact on in it is deluding themselves

drogon. · 05-11-2020 08:42PM

extra gravy wrote: »

Taking advantage of old women now, there's really no depths they won't sink to.

Just add some more details (or my understanding), she basically voted already and then attempted to vote for the second time and was asked to sign paper work and realised she could be prosecuted for voter fraud and hence didn't do it and complained she wasn't allowed

https://news.sky.com/story/us-election-2020-trump-team-insists-hes-alive-and-kicking-as-he-calls-for-knife-edge-counts-to-cease-12124577

Honestly she won't be prosecuted cause she is a dear old lady, God bless them :rolleyes:

20Cent · 05-11-2020 08:42PM

froog wrote: »

trump 2024 will never happen. i doubt he'd get past the primaries. GOP want rid of him. also he'll be 78 and he's no joe biden.

Once out of office he is facing court cases for fraud and tax evasion. Then he will also have to give a DNA sample for sex assault cases. On top of that his tax returns will have been released, who he owes 100's of millions to will be clear. Even current Trumpers will be shunning him by then.

05-11-2020 08:43PM

threeball wrote: »

Trump doesn't give a toss about the US, what makes you think he'll give one about the UK. He'll take Boris into a room demand that his needs are met 100% then come out and tell everyone that they've done a great deal, even detailing how he basically humiliated Boris. Brexit suited Trump only because he thought it would make Europe weaker.

I don't think that he gives a toss about the U.K. other than brexit but he gives even less of a toss about Ireland and would side with them against our interests unlike what the poster I was replying to said.

py2006 · 05-11-2020 08:43PM

I can't believe I have been listening/watching to ABC news all day, they have had nothing to say but have repeated it all day!

statesaver · 05-11-2020 08:44PM

Trump increased his black, latino and LGBT vote. Impressive for a supposed ' racist '.

8-10 · 05-11-2020 08:44PM

Jin luk wrote: »

4 years ago trump was at 200/1 in play betting after the first two states went to Clinton wouldn't rely on betting markets at all

Quite a timing difference between first 2 states being called and margins of 100,000 odd or less in the remaining states to be called

threeball · 05-11-2020 08:45PM

Enquiring wrote: »

I don't watch fox and barely cnn so I can't tell you for sure about that but from looking at the landscape in America, it looks to me that both sides are as nutty as each other. Also, we can't discuss it here but foreign policy seems to be the same no matter which side gains power.

CNN are nothing like Fox. Yes they dislike Trump but their reporting is pretty on point and facts based. Fox is like an American Spitting Image without the puppets. Purely farcical, mostly lies with slightly unhinged anchors.

drogon. · 05-11-2020 08:45PM

froog wrote: »

trump 2024 will never happen. i doubt he'd get past the primaries. GOP want rid of him. also he'll be 78 and he's no joe biden.

I honestly bet 2024 will be one of the Trump's kid or possible Kayne West. They do like them to be a bit unstable

Overheal · 05-11-2020 08:45PM

py2006 wrote: »

I can't believe I have been listening/watching to ABC news all day, they have had nothing to say but have repeated it all day!

I'm about to go nap, I can't handle this much anxiety.

Did get my new AMD CPU this morning at launch tho so it paid to be browsing the web already :pac:

donvito99 · 05-11-2020 08:46PM

LillySV wrote: »

What do you think Biden is going to do for Ireland , what reason/evidence have u of this also ? That man couldn’t give two f@cks about Ireland... anyone who thinks he does or will have an actual positive impact on in it is deluding themselves

yeah, trump's got our backs...

Lolle06 · 05-11-2020 08:46PM

LillySV wrote: »

What do you think Biden is going to do for Ireland , what reason/evidence have u of this also ? That man couldn’t give two f@cks about Ireland... anyone who thinks he does or will have an actual positive impact on in it is deluding themselves

Afaik he has family here and already indicated he would not stand for anything that goes against the GFA.

But please, go ahead with your premature accusations.

newboard · 05-11-2020 08:47PM

When are we likely to get the next update on results from a state?

Billy Mays · 05-11-2020 08:47PM

drogon. wrote: »

Another allegation by Team Trump

https://twitter.com/hollandcourtney/status/1324397417479897091?s=21

and here is the outcome.

https://twitter.com/joshnbcnews/status/1324419281577271300?s=21

Amazing

Jacob Wohl hasn't got a patch on these chancers

eagle eye · 05-11-2020 08:47PM

statesaver wrote:

Trump increased his black, latino and LGBT vote. Impressive for a supposed ' racist '.

Even though massive numbers have voted I find this hard to believe.
Can you provide a link to a trustworthy site supporting this claim?

Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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