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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • #6422
    paleoperson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Worth remembering a Biden win lifts Ireland's weight somewhat in the Brexit negotiations - it also doesn't look great for Boris Johnson either.

    Remembering? What a load of utter garbage.

    Biden's going to say "hey britain you better give ireland a good deal because i like them"? If anything Trump who has plenty of interests in Ireland would be a lot more likely to help them out.


  • #6423
    cj maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    road_high wrote: »
    Ridiculously Rude and surly- if you can’t answer a few simple questions then piss off and let someone else do the job.
    Following this the big difference I can see is the humour removal most Americans seem to have. Bad enough as our media might be they’d at least draw some honour from it and lighter moments with a bit of deprecation
    Been asked stupid questions that had already answered in his first statement.? He was a breath of fresh air!


  • #6424
    eeepaulo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    Marvelous, the city of brotherly love is going to send that conman packing.


  • #6425
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    listermint wrote: »
    Registering for social media should include your phone and address so that your are held responsible for what you say. Just like in real life. You can still use a pseudonym but the platform have your real name.

    The platform should be held liable if no action is taken against users who don't adhere to existing laws just like real life.

    We are well past social media being invasive into reality so why should it be outside of normal legal avenues. Theres people harassing individuals in their sitting rooms daily

    And a spare set of keys to our house in order to create an account... Can we give them the ability to punish us off platform? Maybe if we post about something that is disputed they can put an alert out to our neighbours? I dunno just spitballing


  • #6426
    donvito99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    paleoperson wrote: »
    Remembering? What a load of utter garbage.

    Biden's going to say "hey britain you better give ireland a good deal because i like them"? If anything Trump who has plenty of interests in Ireland would be a lot more likely to help them out.

    Trump supports Brexit. Biden does not. The fact that Trump owns a shoddy hotel in Doonbeg doesn't come in to it. Ireland stands to gain a great deal if Biden follows through on Democratic Party commitments to the GFA.

    In summary, you're talking out of your hoop


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  • #6427
    paleoperson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    Trump now 9/1, Biden 1/9.... back to the worst, damn.


  • #6428
    Enquiring
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭Enquiring


    magma69 wrote: »
    Why are you expecting a modicum of critical thinking from Trump cheerleaders? Evidence isn't valued whatsoever. The just believe whatever feels good for them to believe. All evidence which contradicts their beliefs is completely dismissed. We're way passed that at this point.

    Truth, evidence, facts, logic are gone down the toilet.

    To be fair, I see that on the other side as well. It's all a bit nutty over there and they have many followers here.


  • #6429
    ShooterSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Illium wrote: »
    Did the same thing happen with sideshow Bob in the 1990s?

    If Biden starts faking votes from dead pets that's where I say "No more!".

    Another thing 2020 has thrown up that I never thought I'd see in my lifetime is a leader of a "modern western civilisation" openly try and discredit and throw out an election they were loosing. You always think ah that's only a thing that happens in "less" civilised nations with dictators and tyrants.


  • #6430
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    paleoperson wrote: »
    Remembering? What a load of utter garbage.

    Biden's going to say "hey britain you better give ireland a good deal because i like them"? If anything Trump who has plenty of interests in Ireland would be a lot more likely to help them out.

    Given everything Trump has said about Brexit would indeed indicate that he would help the English out. How many interests does trump hold in the U.k.


  • #6431
    Lolle06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Lolle06


    ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »
    It does strike me as ridiculous that you can get 50k 3 days after election day......

    It's not like the election date was known in advance....

    Well, Trump- buddy DeJoy’s postal service was apparently rather ”slow” In the delivery of mail-in ballots. A federal judge had to set an ultimatum, so I am not at all surprised about late deliveries...


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  • #6432
    CharlesMartel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭CharlesMartel


    py2006 wrote: »
    I aint saying shes a gold digger...

    But she ain't messing with no broke(banned word)


  • #6433
    nolivesmatter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    If Biden starts faking votes from dead pets that's where I say "No more!".

    Another thing 2020 has thrown up that I never thought I'd see in my lifetime is a leader of a "modern western civilisation" openly try and discredit and throw out an election they were loosing. You always think ah that's only a thing that happens in "less" civilised nations with dictators and tyrants.

    Why would a dictator hold an election?


  • #6434
    Triangle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭Triangle


    is_that_so wrote: »
    No, that was it!

    A Pennsylvania court ruled that Trump campaign observers could stand closer to watch ballot processing in Philadelphia!

    He allowed both sets of observers closer. The center had to be closed and reconfigured.
    But it wasn't just trump observers is my point.


  • #6435
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,378 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    And a spare set of keys to our house in order to create an account... Can we give them the ability to punish us off platform? Maybe if we post about something that is disputed they can put an alert out to our neighbours? I dunno just spitballing

    Who said anything about keys.


    Part of the problems we have across multiple spectrums of life right now from our governance to simple things like mental health stems back to social media. It's part and parcel of life.

    If you think people shouldn't be held accountable for their own actions on it then your part of the problem.

    Hiding behind troll accounts to attack people or spread lies about people and get your jollies shouldn't be allowed. Thats what a rational person would say.


  • #6436
    omega man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭omega man


    paleoperson wrote: »
    Trump now 9/1, Biden 1/9.... back to the worst, damn.

    Biden 1/25 on PP now


  • #6437
    paleoperson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Trump supports Brexit. Biden does not. The fact that Trump owns a shoddy hotel in Doonbeg doesn't come in to it. Ireland stands to gain a great deal of Biden follows through on Democratic Party commitments to the GFA.

    In summary, you're talking out of your hoop

    Whether Biden supports Ireland and doesn't like Brexit is hardly going to factor into the equation for Brexit negotiations. It would be like saying being friends with a councilor is going to get you a better tax rate - life don't work like that.

    See this is where the fake news concept comes in - you just tell people stuff and it sounds somewhat plausible on a certain level and they go away believing it.

    Trump has a personal relationship with and interests in Ireland - frankly it makes him look good as well to talk about it. Biden has no interest in helping Ireland.


  • #6438
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    Enquiring wrote: »
    To be fair, I see that on the other side as well. It's all a bit nutty over there and they have many followers here.

    People keep saying that, but it's not true at least not to the same extent. I have watched quite a bit of CNN coverage and while they obviously do not support Trump and his ridiculous tactics, there is no overt lies.
    The tone is also a lot less aggressive than the likes of Fox for example.
    This false equivalence that one side is as bad as the other is simply not true.


  • #6439
    Lolle06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Lolle06


    paleoperson wrote: »
    Remembering? What a load of utter garbage.

    Biden's going to say "hey britain you better give ireland a good deal because i like them"? If anything Trump who has plenty of interests in Ireland would be a lot more likely to help them out.

    Are you suggesting that Trump would only be interested in Irish matters if it benefitted his own business?
    Perhaps in return for the permission to build his “wall”? Quid pro quo style?


  • #6440
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,378 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    nolivesmatter wrote: »
    Why would a dictator hold an election?

    Why does Putin.....


  • #6441
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,780 ✭✭✭threeball


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Given everything Trump has said about Brexit would indeed indicate that he would help the English out. How many interests does trump hold in the U.k.

    Trump doesn't give a toss about the US, what makes you think he'll give one about the UK. He'll take Boris into a room demand that his needs are met 100% then come out and tell everyone that they've done a great deal, even detailing how he basically humiliated Boris. Brexit suited Trump only because he thought it would make Europe weaker.


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  • #6442
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,476 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    Probably filing through her ankle cuffs right now

    Chewing through her leg.


  • #6443
    dasdog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭dasdog


    listermint wrote: »
    Why does Putin.....

    Saddam was fond of them also...


  • #6444
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lolle06 wrote: »
    Well, Trump- buddy DeJoy’s postal service was apparently rather ”slow” In the delivery of mail-in ballots. A federal judge had to set an ultimatum, so I am not at all surprised about late deliveries...

    Military votes can come in up to tomorrow including overseas obviously. Same as each election but suddenly mail voting is an issue.


  • #6445
    crisco10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭crisco10


    paleoperson wrote: »
    Whether Biden supports Ireland and doesn't like Brexit is hardly going to factor into the equation for Brexit negotiations. It would be like saying being friends with a councilor is going to get you a better tax rate - life don't work like that.

    See this is where the fake news concept comes in - you just tell people stuff and it sounds somewhat plausible on a certain level and they go away believing it.

    Trump has a personal relationship with and interests in Ireland - frankly it makes him look good as well to talk about it. Biden has no interest in helping Ireland.

    I think Biden would at least understand the intricacies of GFA etc better. When Trump visited Ireland, he was under the impression Ireland WANTED a hard border. Leo had to correct him in the press call.


  • #6446
    BrentMused
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭BrentMused


    Biden is 1/14 now!

    Trump out to 11/1.


  • #6447
    sondagefaux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭sondagefaux


    paleoperson wrote: »
    Remembering? What a load of utter garbage.

    Biden's going to say "hey britain you better give ireland a good deal because i like them"? If anything Trump who has plenty of interests in Ireland would be a lot more likely to help them out.

    Trump is pro-Brexit, doesn't give a shït about the GFA, and thinks Boris Johnson is a good leader.

    Biden will do everything in his power to protect the GFA, and has no time for Johnson.

    Do you really think owning a freaking hotel/golf course in Clare means Trump is more concerned about Ireland than Biden?


  • #6448
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,613 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    paleoperson wrote: »
    Whether Biden supports Ireland and doesn't like Brexit is hardly going to factor into the equation for Brexit negotiations. It would be like saying being friends with a councilor is going to get you a better tax rate - life don't work like that.

    Britain's odds of a good trade deal with the US are impacted by Biden and Congress' insistence that the Good Friday Agreement is protected. Congress has said they won't vote on a trade deal with the UK which doesn't ensure this.

    So yes, Biden being more on the side of Ireland than Trump (aka Mr.Brexit as he called himself)has a significant effect on Brexit negotiations as a US deal will be vital to the UK.


  • #6449
    PalLimerick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭PalLimerick


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Trump supports Brexit. Biden does not. The fact that Trump owns a shoddy hotel in Doonbeg doesn't come in to it. Ireland stands to gain a great deal if Biden follows through on Democratic Party commitments to the GFA.

    In summary, you're talking out of your hoop

    Shoddy Hotel, it's World class.


  • #6450
    Real Life
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Real Life


    nolivesmatter wrote: »
    Why would a dictator hold an election?

    Belarus had an election recently.

    Trump had no choice right now but he was trying to move things in that direction that's pretty obvious.


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  • #6451
    drogon.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭drogon.


    Another allegation by Team Trump

    https://twitter.com/hollandcourtney/status/1324397417479897091?s=21

    and here is the outcome.

    https://twitter.com/joshnbcnews/status/1324419281577271300?s=21


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