Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

funnydoggy · 05-11-2020 03:55PM

biko wrote: »

A Trump win is just better television.

I'd rather watch a funeral

py2006 · 05-11-2020 03:55PM

biko wrote: »

A Trump win is just better television.

The late night talk shows will have great material for another 4 years.

Smee_Again · 05-11-2020 03:55PM

froog wrote: »

61,000 votes to be counted in georgia, from heavily dem areas. Biden only needs 18000 ish of those. it's over there.

18K of the 61K or an excess over Trump of 18K so c. 40K total?

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 05-11-2020 03:55PM

froog wrote: »

i have to say though, states should be able to get a final count in 24 hours, mail in or not. Florida and a few other states managed it. this waiting 3 days for a state to get a result in just adds to the chaos and division.

No, what is causing the chaos, there is a big man child in the WH screaming he won/fraud/stop the vote and his boys and girls are lapping it up.

BringBackMick · 05-11-2020 03:55PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/lastwordbkerr/status/1324363215640428544

Biden doing really well in PA. Expectation is he'll win PA by at least a margin of 100,000 in the end. Vast majority of vote going to Biden there.

Yeah I've been following the count there on MSBC online and there are about 200,000 left in Philly and they are falling 80:20 so it'll be Biden + ~ 140k to current standing just from Phlilly

is_that_so · 05-11-2020 03:56PM

450K to count in AZ.

namloc1980 · 05-11-2020 03:56PM

froog wrote: »

i have to say though, states should be able to get a final count in 24 hours, mail in or not. Florida and a few other states managed it. this waiting 3 days for a state to get a result in just adds to the chaos and division.

You can thank the Republicans for that. They allowed early and mail in votes to be tabulated in places like Florida before Election Day so they basically were ready to go with results as soon as the polls closed and just had to count the election day votes.

They objected to that in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Why? To create the exact situation we're in where Trump can claim victory and then cry fraud as the mail in votes get counted last. The Washington Post predicted this exact situation a few weeks ago.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/pennsylvania-republicans-count-mail-in-ballots-before-election-day/2020/10/26/c3ac91b0-17d0-11eb-aeec-b93bcc29a01b_story.html%3foutputType=amp

Boggles · 05-11-2020 03:56PM

Trump shrinking the gap in Arizona.

450k left to be counted.

py2006 · 05-11-2020 03:56PM

Definite difference in the air today. Yesterday was 100% its Biden, today seems 60% by the way folks are talking

Injuryprone · 05-11-2020 03:56PM

froog wrote: »

i have to say though, states should be able to get a final count in 24 hours, mail in or not. Florida and a few other states managed it. this waiting 3 days for a state to get a result in just adds to the chaos and division.

Florida and other states were allowed to open mail in ballots as they came in before the election. Republican state legislatures in PA, WI, MI, NC I think, wouldn't allow ballots to be opened until after the polls closed. So that's why there's a difference between states

Tchaikovsky · 05-11-2020 03:56PM

Trump ticks every box on being a fascist in the same way he ticks every box on having Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Overheal · 05-11-2020 03:56PM

"Gabriel Sterling, Georgia’s statewide voting system implementation manager, said that 61,367 outstanding mail-in absentee ballots remained uncounted. The state aims to finish its count by noon." - NYT

Trump is only ahead by 18,586 votes with the lead shrinking.

Will we really know in the next 2 hours??

froog · 05-11-2020 03:56PM

Penn wrote: »

No, he needs 18000 more than Trump, so he needs about 40,000 of the votes remaining.

sorry yes you're right.

cnocbui · 05-11-2020 03:57PM

Chardee MacDennis wrote: »

Wannabe facist

Wannabe Dictator. He's ego, not ideolgy, driven.

Enquiring · 05-11-2020 03:57PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

The man who sang "Bomb, bomb, bomb - Bomb Bomb Iran" to the tune of "Barbara-Ann" at a rally?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7s5pT3Rris

Yes , yes he would.

Hmmmmm McCain signing a song v Obama ordering the dropping of a huge amount of actual bombs, was it a record level under his watch?

Not sure which evidence to follow here, song v bombs.

AllForIt · 05-11-2020 03:58PM

Real Life wrote: »

Doesn't really matter though because they were just speculating, there's a difference.

As I said in an earlier post polling trends influence people. There is no doubt that it does so in this election it benefited Biden. I'm not saying it's a huge difference but when you see some states going down to the wire it my make an actual difference in the outcome.

bennyineire · 05-11-2020 03:58PM

froog wrote: »

61,000 votes to be counted in georgia, from heavily dem areas. Biden only needs 18000 ish of those. it's over there.

Nope, if he got the next 18,000 it would be a tie, then it would leave 43,000 so he would need 21,501 of them to beat Trump.

So basically he needs over 39,500 of the the remaining 61,000 to win which right now looks very likely

y0ssar1an22 · 05-11-2020 04:00PM

nevada:

based on NYT

split current total
190,279.00 0.75 142,709.25 588,252.00 730,961.25 biden wins
0.25 47,569.75 580,605.00 628,174.75
86% counted -
or 0.7 133,195.30 588,252.00 721,447.30
1,168,857.00 0.3 57,083.70 580,605.00 637,688.70 biden wins

0.65 123,681.35 588,252.00 711,933.35
0.35 66,597.65 580,605.00 647,202.65 biden wins
-
0.625 118,924.38 588,252.00 707,176.38
0.375 71,354.63 580,605.00 651,959.63 biden wins
-
0.615 117,021.59 588,252.00 705,273.59
0.385 73,257.42 580,605.00 653,862.42 biden wins
-
0.61 116,070.19 588,252.00 704,322.19
0.39 74,208.81 580,605.00 654,813.81 biden wins

0.60 114,167.40 588,252.00 702,419.40
0.40 76,111.60 580,605.00 656,716.60 biden wins

0.55 104,653.45 588,252.00 692,905.45
0.45 85,625.55 580,605.00 666,230.55 biden wins
-
0.525 99,896.48 588,252.00 688,148.48
0.475 90,382.53 580,605.00 670,987.53 biden wins

0.5 95,139.50 588,252.00 683,391.50
0.5 95,139.50 580,605.00 675,744.50 biden wins
-
0.475 90,382.53 588,252.00 678,634.53
0.525 99,896.48 580,605.00 680,501.48 trump wins
-
0.45 85,625.55 588,252.00 673,877.55
0.55 104,653.45 580,605.00 685,258.45 trump wins

think its game over anyway cos clark county is mainly democrat so unlikely trump will win 52.5% of remaining. that is if he wins all of georgia, PA, alaska and NC.

ArmaniJeanss · 05-11-2020 04:00PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Which count?

All of them or just the ones where he's still ahead?

If you stop all the counts , he has lost.?

Overheal wrote: »

Yes.

Is there maybe some logic behind it that we are missing?

If the count in state XYZ is stopped then maybe no-one is declared the winner depending on the rules within that state or the constitution.

It would seem sensible to us that whoever was leading is declared the winner, but maybe it's like a game of soccer waterlogged off after 60 minutes - no result.
In which he stops Biden getting to 270. It doesn't really matter that he stops any chance of himself getting to 270, that's immaterial at this stage.

Laois_Man · 05-11-2020 04:00PM

Graham wrote: »

I'm guessing the counted is not the same as the reported. I'd expect the reports to lag the counts.

I'm a little confused by the numbers. PA are reporting 87% complete with nearly 6.4 million votes reported. Doing the match on that, makes it a total poll of 7.34 million, making over 950,000 remaining to be reported. No?

05-11-2020 04:00PM

A concise report of the court fights already in process in the battleground states (from Reuters and The Guardian):

Michigan ballot-counting fight
Trump’s campaign said on Wednesday it had filed a lawsuit in Michigan to stop state officials from counting ballots. The campaign said the case in the Michigan Court of Claims seeks to halt counting until it has an election inspector at each absentee-voter counting board. The campaign also wanted to review ballots that were opened and counted before an inspector from its campaign was present.

Pennsylvania court battles
Republican officials on Tuesday sued election officials in Montgomery County, which borders Philadelphia, accusing them of illegally counting mail-in ballots early and giving voters who submitted defective ballots a chance to re-vote. At a hearing on Wednesday, US District Judge Timothy Savage in Philadelphia appeared skeptical of their allegations and how the integrity of the election might be affected.

In a separate lawsuit, the Trump campaign asked a judge to halt ballot counting in Pennsylvania, claiming that Republicans had been unlawfully denied access to observe the process.

Meanwhile, Republicans in Pennsylvania have asked the US Supreme Court to review a decision from the state’s highest court that allowed election officials to count mail-in ballots postmarked by Election Day that arrived through until Friday 6 November. On Wednesday, Trump’s campaign filed a motion to intervene in the case.

Supreme court justices said last week there was not enough time to decide the merits of the case before Election Day but indicated they might revisit it afterwards. As a result, Pennsylvania election officials said they will segregate properly postmarked ballots that arrived after Election Day, which opens the possibility the court could subsequently strike them out.

US Postal Service litigation
A judge on Wednesday said Postmaster General Louis DeJoy must answer questions about why the USPS failed to complete a court-ordered sweep for undelivered ballots in about a dozen states before a Tuesday afternoon deadline. US District Judge Emmet Sullivan is overseeing a lawsuit by Vote Forward, the NAACP, and Latino community advocates who have been demanding the postal service deliver mail-in ballots in time to be counted in the election.

Georgia ballot fight
The Trump campaign on Wednesday evening filed a lawsuit in state court in Chatham County, Georgia. Unlike the Pennsylvania and Michigan actions, that lawsuit is not asking a judge to halt ballot counting. Instead, the campaign said it received information that late-arriving ballots were improperly mingled with valid ballots, and asked a judge to enter an order making sure late-arriving ballots were separated so they would not be counted.

After the announcement just now that there will be a press conference in Nevada this morning featuring the Republican chair of the state and attorneys, presumably we’ll be able to add Nevada to that list soon.

I see sheep · 05-11-2020 04:00PM

py2006 wrote: »

Definite difference in the air today. Yesterday was 100% its Biden, today seems 60% by the way folks are talking

I don't feel that .. PA looking more and more nailed on for Biden.

Trump 6/1 in the bookies if anyone fancies it, for reference the bookies think Cork have a better chance of beating Kerry at the weekend than Trump winning

05-11-2020 04:00PM

bennyineire wrote: »

Nope, if he got the next 18,000 it would be a tie, then it would leave 43,000 so he would need 21,501 of them to beat Trump.

So basically he needs over 39,500 of the the remaining 61,000 to win which right now looks very likely

There is 200k left to be reported, and 60k or so of these to be counted. He's 20k behind.

Boggles · 05-11-2020 04:01PM

AllForIt wrote: »

As I said in an earlier post polling trends influence people. There is no doubt that it does so in this election it benefited Biden. I'm not saying it's a huge difference but when you see some states going down to the wire it my make an actual difference in the outcome.

Of course there is, it's impossible to gauge what a poll(s) did in this election.

Could have driven more Trump supporters out on Election day, or other voters may not have bothering voting if they thought Biden was so far ahead.

No way of telling.

Real Life · 05-11-2020 04:01PM

py2006 wrote: »

Definite difference in the air today. Yesterday was 100% its Biden, today seems 60% by the way folks are talking

I reckon the likes of CNN are trying to play it cool today just on the off chance it does swing and they're left embarrassed but deep down are already celebrating.

froog · 05-11-2020 04:01PM

bookies have biden favourite for PA (strong favourite) and GA (favourite). meaning trump can take arizona and nevada and still lose.

Boggles · 05-11-2020 04:02PM

Real Life wrote: »

I reckon the likes of CNN are trying to play it cool today just on the off chance it does swing and they're left embarrassed but deep down are already celebrating.

CNN have repeatedly said it could swing either way.

They have been more conservative then Fox.

y0ssar1an22 · 05-11-2020 04:04PM

Basil3 wrote: »

There is 200k left to be reported, and 60k or so of these to be counted. He's 20k behind.

biden needs to win approx 55% of the ~200k remaining to win georgia. that is based on current NYT info and being 18,590 down

Call Me Jimmy · 05-11-2020 04:04PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe."

Far right? Check
Ultranationalist? Check
Forcible suppression of opposition? Working on it.
Dictatorial power? As above.

If it walks like a duck...

What fascists are you thinking of, a fascist who not a single journalist is even remotely afraid of? Who has no more power than any other president in the past?

omega man · 05-11-2020 04:04PM

PP have PA at 1-6 Biden now from 1-5

Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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