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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Does Biden at worst coming very close in Arizona/Nevada and Georgia/North Carolina signal a tectonic shift in American politics? Not a massive one, but enough to require the Republicans to reposition significantly if they are to regain the White House as the trends that took these states for the Dems or very near are only going to continue?

    Republicans will respond with even more gerrymandering and voter suppression. They will try and do it via the courts and any other method they can manage.

    Republicans are afraid of voters, that is why they make it so hard to people to vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,844 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    donfers wrote: »
    Is this the correct timeline folks?

    By 6pm today we will likely know the result in Georgia and by midnight we will know where Pennsylvania is likely to swing.

    Should Trump win both then we have a further day of anxiety ahead of us as we await Nevada and Arizona to be called on Friday?

    Should Biden win either of PA or GA today then it's done

    Essentially we have maybe 4 flips of the coin ahead of us and Trump has to win all

    They're not coin tosses though. Biden is favourite in them all: slight in Georgia, strong in Arizona and overwhelming in the other two.


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    Thepoet85 wrote: »
    Trying to subvert the democratic process seems fairly fascist to me.

    Wouldn't that be what the democratic party did to Bernie in 2016.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    It's the ads that are the killer. They're so so long.

    Much more ads today than they had yesterday, but they need more filler today as there isn't much to talk about yet and not really had many new numbers coming in until the last hour or so when a trickle have begun coming in from PA.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    The only counts that should be stopped are these ones

    dracula-chritopher-lee.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Anyone see that clip of Philidephia on CNN just now - what is the name of that famous song being played?

    Earth, Wind & Fire - Let's Groove


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Dressoutlet


    How was I meant to know about the #steal, they've them caught by the short and curlies with the watermarks.
    It ain't over yet baby:)

    Please stop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    donfers wrote: »
    The only counts that should be stopped are these ones

    dracula-chritopher-lee.jpg

    Rudy?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,762 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Enquiring wrote: »
    Would McCain have dropped as many bombs as Obama? Given his history in Vietnam, I'm not sure which way he would have went.

    The man who sang "Bomb, bomb, bomb - Bomb Bomb Iran" to the tune of "Barbara-Ann" at a rally?



    Yes , yes he would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Wouldn't that be what the democratic party did to Bernie in 2016.

    How so? HC got more votes than Bernie did in the primaries


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    How are these American pundits and commentators staying up for three days straight, they say democracy is under threat in the States but if the devotion of the media is anything to go by they are doing just fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Real Life


    AllForIt wrote: »
    CNN has been doing some Fact Checking

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/04/politics/fact-check-trump-election-day-tweets/index.html




    I've been doing some Fact Checking of my own...

    Doesn't really matter though because they were just speculating, there's a difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Earth, Wind & Fire - Let's Groove

    Thanks!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    What does Megyn Kelly say about the likely outcome? I haven't heard her latest podcast


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    i have to say though, states should be able to get a final count in 24 hours, mail in or not. Florida and a few other states managed it. this waiting 3 days for a state to get a result in just adds to the chaos and division.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,124 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/lastwordbkerr/status/1324363215640428544

    Biden doing really well in PA. Expectation is he'll win PA by at least a margin of 100,000 in the end. Vast majority of vote going to Biden there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Does Biden at worst coming very close in Arizona/Nevada and Georgia/North Carolina signal a tectonic shift in American politics? Not a massive one, but enough to require the Republicans to reposition significantly if they are to regain the White House as the trends that took these states for the Dems or very near are only going to continue?

    I dont think so.

    This was a Trump or no Trump election. If the Republicans learn lessons from what has happened, and run a less divisive option, with the policies that appealed then they will do very well.

    Lets not forget both candidates have got more votes then any other candidates EVER!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,493 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    froog wrote: »
    i have to say though, states should be able to get a final count in 24 hours, mail in or not. Florida and a few other states managed it. this waiting 3 days for a state to get a result in just adds to the chaos and division.

    Florida have been counting for weeks.

    Other states were not allowed - 7am election day is when they can start, thanks to Republican legislators.

    It's part of the suppression tactic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Tchaikovsky


    listermint wrote: »
    Sure it's all joke fascism talk until the real fascism starts. Then it's too late.

    It's sarcastic fascism.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭rockatansky


    So looking like Arizona win for Trump and Pennsylvania win for Biden?

    Does Pennsylvania alone put Biden across the line?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,021 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    donfers wrote: »
    How are these American pundits and commentators staying up for three days straight, they say democracy is under threat in the States but if the devotion of the media is anything to go by they are doing just fine

    they all took a pit stop in oregan!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    61,000 votes to be counted in georgia, from heavily dem areas. Biden only needs 18000 ish of those. it's over there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,630 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    froog wrote: »
    i have to say though, states should be able to get a final count in 24 hours, mail in or not. Florida and a few other states managed it. this waiting 3 days for a state to get a result in just adds to the chaos and division.

    Florida's laws meant they could start counting votes right away, including mail-in votes before election day. Other states laws mean they can't start counting until polling closes. Plus the timeframes of when mail-in votes have to be received by.

    Basically, states freedoms means they all decide to do their own stuff without consistency or regard to what other states do, because BBQ/Beer/Freedom


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    So looking like Arizona win for Trump and Pennsylvania win for Biden?

    Does Pennsylvania alone put Biden across the line?


    Yup, 20 electoral votes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    So looking like Arizona win for Trump and Pennsylvania win for Biden?

    Does Pennsylvania alone put Biden across the line?
    Yes it does. Trump more or less needs everything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    A Trump win is just better television.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    How was I meant to know about the #steal, they've them caught by the short and curlies with the watermarks.
    It ain't over yet baby:)

    Yeah you see the problem here is you just keeping making stuff up, nobody believes no matter how many times you try spread disinformation.

    Best thing you can do is take a break from Twitter for the next 6 hours then come back to us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,630 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    froog wrote: »
    61,000 votes to be counted in georgia, from heavily dem areas. Biden only needs 18000 ish of those. it's over there.

    No, he needs 18000 more than Trump, so he needs about 40,000 of the votes remaining.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    AllForIt wrote: »
    CNN has been doing some Fact Checking

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/04/politics/fact-check-trump-election-day-tweets/index.html




    I've been doing some Fact Checking of my own...

    There is a difference between saying "We think X will happen" and "They are cheating".

    One is OK, one isn't.


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