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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • #5552
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    https://twitter.com/RepKinzinger/status/1323865750403166209


  • #5553
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    The_Brood wrote: »
    Again I'm not saying it is or isnt legit, but that is how it will feel for them. Haven't heard of "stolen it at the death" in sports?

    And if the counts had been done in the opposite order with mail in votes counted first and then Trumps on the day votes? Would Trump be on course to steal from Biden or would it just be that one of them ends up winning?


  • #5554
    Lollipop95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭Lollipop95


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    An inanimate carbon rod would have been the most popular candidate in history against Trump in 2020. Possibly even more so than Biden. Its mainly anti Trump than pro Biden that got the numbers out.

    Can confirm. My American friends voted not because they like Biden (they think he’s extremely corrupt), but because he’s the lesser of two evils and they’re desperate to get rid of Trump


  • #5555
    sondagefaux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭sondagefaux


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Well, for one.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/11/clerical-error-prompts-unfounded-claims-about-michigan-results/

    Meh...


  • #5556
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    sondagefaux wrote: »
    Meh...

    It is what it is.


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  • #5557
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,762 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    sondagefaux wrote: »
    The head of Wisconsin's Election Commission said yesterday that all Wisconsin votes had been counted. Just the BBC being overly cautious.

    I think a few are holding off on "calling it on the basis of the Trump theat of a lawsuit and looking for a recount.

    But all votes are counted right now and Biden has won Wisconsin , subject to certification.


  • #5558
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    robinph wrote: »
    And if the counts had been done in the opposite order with mail in votes counted first and then Trumps on the day votes? Would Trump be on course to steal from Biden or would it just be that one of them ends up winning?

    I would imagine people who really want Joe to win would feel equally ticked off if a state got flipped in the last 1-2% too and they lost the election. As maybe will happen in Arizona, but Joe will still win it all so it won't sting nearly as much.


  • #5559
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,490 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    No tweets from Trump for 13 hours. He knows his thanksgiving goose is cooked.


  • #5560
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    is_that_so wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/RepKinzinger/status/1323865750403166209

    It's good to see people from his own party calling him out


  • #5561
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,021 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    trump needs slightly under 40% of remaining to win PA

    as in very slightly under. at 39% biden will win by ~6000


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  • #5562
    Ashbourne hoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Ashbourne hoop


    How many votes are left to play for in PA ?


  • #5563
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    As of this morning, there are close to 50,000 votes left to be counted in Georgia.


  • #5564
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Ashbourne hoop wrote: »
    How many votes are left to play for in PA ?
    About 400K but a lot of big Dem areas.


  • #5565
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,615 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Surely if the roles were reversed the Dems would be demanding re counts as well.

    Trump is a buffoon and makes his every action seem OTT and childish but with the way things have been in America of late we'd be seeing the same actions taken by the Dems if the roles were reversed albeit without quite as much of the magical moron dust Trump manages to sprinkle over everything.

    Glazers Out!



  • #5566
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,412 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    y0ssar1an22 wrote: »
    trump needs slightly under 40% of remaining to win PA

    If i'm not mistaken, Biden is currently trending 74% - 75% of the count in the remaining areas to be counted.


  • #5567
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    The_Brood wrote: »
    I would imagine people who really want Joe to win would feel equally ticked off if a state got flipped in the last 1-2% too and they lost the election. As maybe will happen in Arizona, but Joe will still win it all so it won't sting nearly as much.

    AFAIR in 2016 Trump looked very surprised that he won for the exact same reason.


  • #5568
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,021 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    is_that_so wrote: »
    About 400K but a lot of big Dem areas.

    per NYT its about 774k


  • #5569
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Its hiding its registration data
    https://who.is/whois/decisiondeskhq.com
    If they were reputable and trustworthy they wouldn't need to do that

    Seems they sprung out of nowhere autumn of 2018.
    There are no names and no affiliations on their site.

    Their Twitter seems to have been https://twitter.com/aoshqdd?lang=en
    AOS HQ DD?


  • #5570
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    nullzero wrote: »
    Surely if the roles were reversed the Dems would be demanding re counts as well.

    Recounts? Yes.

    Declaring fraud without evidence? No.


  • #5571
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,021 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    If i'm not mistaken, Biden is currently trending 74% - 75% of the count in the remaining areas to be counted.

    i'm not sure. i just looked at the macro level


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  • #5572
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,490 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Ashbourne hoop wrote: »
    How many votes are left to play for in PA ?

    784,000.

    Trumps lead is down from 600,000 to 164,500.


  • #5573
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    y0ssar1an22 wrote: »
    per NYT its about 774k
    Per Bob Casey a PA senator an hour ago, it's 400K.


  • #5574
    omega man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭omega man


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    784,000.

    Trumps lead is down from 600,000 to 164,500.

    Was over 700k at one point.


  • #5575
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    nullzero wrote: »
    Surely if the roles were reversed the Dems would be demanding re counts as well.

    Trump is a buffoon and makes his every action seem OTT and childish but with the way things have been in America of late we'd be seeing the same actions taken by the Dems if the roles were reversed albeit without quite as much of the magical moron dust Trump manages to sprinkle over everything.

    by the same actions do you mean screaming fraud at every opportunity with no evidence and assembling mobs outside counting centers?


  • #5576
    BobbyMalone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭BobbyMalone


    Things hotting up in Las Vegas:


    https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1324344957109415936


    And according to the Guardian:


    The tweet mentions Matt Schlapp as a Brooks Brothers Riot participant. For those of us without total recall of US elections from twenty years ago, my colleague Adam Gabbatt reminded us what the Brooks Brothers Riot was recently:


    In late November 2000, hundreds of mostly middle-aged male protesters, dressed in off-the-peg suits and cautious ties, descended on the Miami-Dade polling headquarters in Florida. Shouting, jostling, and punching, they demanded that a recount of ballots for the presidential election be stopped.
    The protesters, many of whom were paid Republican operatives, succeeded. A recount of ballots in Florida was abandoned. What became known as the Brooks Brothers riot went down in infamy, and George W Bush became president after a supreme court decision.


  • #5577
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    is_that_so wrote: »
    It's the huge positive of this election, the question is how to maintain it!

    Keep making things easier for people to vote, more voting stations in densely populated areas (not just republican areas) make mail in/absentee ballots easier to cast..

    All of the above should be done from the federal level imo, I respect the state rights them being able to do their thing, but in a good democracy it shouldn't be about who controls the state and if that state wants to engage all its citizens in voting or making things as difficult as possible.

    And as has been seen, the republicans have gained millions more votes from things being made easier also, they've nothing to be scared of, state your case to win voters and let them decide at the ballot.


  • #5578
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,615 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    by the same actions do you mean screaming fraud at every opportunity with no evidence and assembling mobs outside counting centers?

    I never said it would take the same shape, in fact I stated it most likely wouldn't. So your Outrage is misplaced.

    Glazers Out!



  • #5579
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,631 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    CNN saying 50k votes left to count in Georgia


  • #5580
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,896 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Ignoring the debate of who is winning what, how the hell can the almighty US of A not get their **** together on a vote.

    Vote is on Tuesday, fine. Mail in votes have to be in by Tuesday at the latest. Get all mail in votes and in person votes together in a few different locations per state and count them on Tuesday and Wednesday. Result announced Wednesday night for each state one after the other and the winner is clear at the end.

    Wouldn't change the endless legal challenges that Donald is going to engage in but for an election with normal candidates it would be a lot cleaner.

    All this bollocks going on with ballots coming in a few days after the election, some counties being a day late, hundreds of thousands of votes rolling in at 4am, Florida practically done and dusted on Tuesday night yet Pennsylvania won't be done til Thursday.

    I'll admit as a viewer it makes for an entertaining rollercoaster, but as an administrator the feckless inefficiency of it all is appalling.


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  • #5581
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Per Bob Casey a PA senator an hour ago, it's 400K.

    400K left to count, not left to play (i.e. not declared).


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