Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I bet its going 5o be level 2+ or level 3.

A lot yes but compared to level 5?

Sure not when compared to 5 but whilst you will have retail open I bet there won't be restaurants or pubs

At level 2+ or three a major thing will be what do they do about travel?

Stay within a county?

That's no use to anybody who has family, friends, partners in other counties

Interesting read from El Pais

More than 500 separate entries: How Spain’s coronavirus nightmare began

https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-11-05/more-than-500-separate-entries-how-spains-coronavirus-nightmare-began.html

"A genetic analysis of 2,170 coronavirus patients – the largest one to date – has identified at least 519 independent entries of the virus into Spain during the first wave of the pandemic, most of them from mid-February. "

“This suggests that the virus was introduced to Spain very early on,” according to the report, which explains that the rest of Europe was affected by later strains of the virus.The European Center for Disease Prevention and Control had already warned on January 18 that Wuhan airport in China had six direct flights a week to Paris, three to Rome and three to London. "

" The report also points out that the earliest case of Covid-19 in Spain was that of a 69-year-old man who returned from a trip to Nepal on January 30 and died on February 13 from pneumonia in a hospital in Valencia"

“Patient zero doesn’t exist,” stresses the report by SeqCOVID"

I also recall there was also a case in La Gomera, Canaries Islands detected on 31 January - imported from Germany

https://www.epochtimes.de/politik/deutschland/coronavirus-erreicht-la-gomera-deutscher-tourist-ist-erster-coronafall-in-spanien-a3142994.html

Deleted User wrote: »

Any economic recovery will have Ireland at the front, not trailing, due to the nature of our economy.

This is applying “normal” economics to the situation. We are not in a normal recession which will follow traditional economic trends — we are in the midst of a crisis that is actually fundamentally changing human behaviour. Even taking one factor alone, the drive towards remote working, will have profound effects on our society and how our economy operates (particularly in urban areas). The transitional process to this new world is likely to be extraordinarily painful for the less well-off and those whose livelihoods cannot be sustained via remote working. It will also have a profound impact on the impoverished areas of our world — as big shifts in the developed world change the way in which enterprise in the third world and emerging economies leverages itself.

In a world where the professional classes have been somewhat more shielded economically because of the ability to work form home, the potential for a rapid widening of social inequality now lies before us. My fear is that we are blindly steering into a storm in which we risk losing control of the narrative to the benefit of the more extreme ends of the political spectrum.

The only positive right now is that maybe, just maybe, a Biden victory will inject some much-needed realism into the Brexit discussions which should work in our favour — along with a hopeful end to the isolationist brinkmanship of Trumpism.

Should I turn myself in? The brother Geoff came to visit yesterday evening. To cut a long story short we ended up drinking some fine bottles of the finest Pinot Grigio from the lowlands of Veneto along with some truffles and canapés at a chums house in Wicklow. I had no essential reason to leave Dublin but did anyway. I was reluctant to go but before I knew it we found a rat run around a check point and I was well past Bray. Thought I saw Gok Wan in Dunnes there, but not sure, I haven’t been beyond my local Spar since March so everything is a bit exotic right now.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Jesus Christ.

No, im fairly sure it was Gok Wan.

Paddygreen wrote: »

Should I turn myself in? The brother Geoff came to visit yesterday evening. To cut a long story short we ended up drinking some fine bottles of the finest Pinot Grigio from the lowlands of Veneto along with some truffles and canapés at a chums house in Wicklow. I had no essential reason to leave Dublin but did anyway. I was reluctant to go but before I knew it we found a rat run around a check point and I was well past Bray. Thought I saw Gok Wan in Dunnes there, but not sure, I haven’t been beyond my local Spar since March so everything is a bit exotic right now.

How’s Geoff Green?

Poor Bryan Dobson trying to get a straight answer out of Donnelly now. Seems to be hinting that restrictions could be at county level for Christmas but context of they're examining options so don't know yet. Wouldn't see how that could work with people hoping to travel between counties for Christmas tbh.

MelbourneMan wrote: »

Minister Donnelly confirming on RTE news the government going with Level 3 as the holding level for virus containment, as previously explained, with some short term loosening for the Christmas period. Credit where it is due here, and the courage to embark on the correct strategy being embraced by the government. It is not easy for non medical specialists to accept what is undoubtedly a difficult reality, yet trust the expert advice provided them, and take on the not to be underestimated difficulty of implementing and leading buy-in of this task.

Jesus christ

https://www.thelocal.dk/20201105/denmark-to-restrict-north-jutland-borders-due-to-mink-coronavirus-outbreak

Authorities in Denmark are to ask residents in North Jutland not to leave their home municipalities due to concerns over the spread of a mutated form of coronavirus.

Anyone who tests positive for coronavirus in the affected municipalities will also be required to test for whether they have been infected with the normal strain or the variation from mink farms.

Twelve people were registered as infected with a mutated form of the coronavirus, news wire Ritzau reported on Wednesday, but the real number is likely to be far higher. Newspaper Information reported on Thursday that up to four or five percent of infections in North Jutland may be with the specific mink mutation of coronavirus that is concerning authorities.

MelbourneMan wrote: »

Minister Donnelly confirming on RTE news the government going with Level 3 as the holding level for virus containment, as previously explained, with some short term loosening for the Christmas period. Credit where it is due here, and the courage to embark on the correct strategy being embraced by the government. It is not easy for non medical specialists to accept what is undoubtedly a difficult reality, yet trust the expert advice provided them, and take on the not to be underestimated difficulty of implementing and leading buy-in of this task.

Will be a nice task for them to get any buy in that restricts people to their own counties long term

bb1234567 wrote: »

https://www.thelocal.dk/20201105/denmark-to-restrict-north-jutland-borders-due-to-mink-coronavirus-outbreak

Jesus Christ