US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

eastie17 · 05-11-2020 11:52AM

Christy42 wrote: »

Not sure. That info always seems to be hard to get for some reason.

I know 8hrs ago Georgia themselves said Biden needed 64% of the remaining vote. He has been hitting over 70% so presumably that has come down a bit. Definitely doable but Trump just needs a lucky batch somewhere. High odds of recount as well I would say.

19,000 votes in it now, with 2% left to count which by my very unscientific calculation is about 100K votes (poll seems to be about 5M votes)

bennyl10 · 05-11-2020 11:53AM

eastie17 wrote: »

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Havent the AP already called AZ for Biden? 264 to 214, Biden needing just Nevada to take it
https://apnews.com/article/ap-explains-arizona-joe-biden-bb16f91b04456b2513f40436248eb62d

Yes but there is debate on if that as premature|(even if it looks very likely now)

If he gets Georgia is he as practically knocking on the door

Brian? · 05-11-2020 11:55AM

Only 70% of votes in Philly counted. Is that right?

Brian? · 05-11-2020 11:56AM

eastie17 wrote: »

19,000 votes in it now, with 2% left to count which by my very unscientific calculation is about 100K votes (poll seems to be about 5M votes)

It's going to be unbelievably close. Definitely recount territory.

Zookey123 · 05-11-2020 11:59AM

eastie17 wrote: »

19,000 votes in it now, with 2% left to count which by my very unscientific calculation is about 100K votes (poll seems to be about 5M votes)

58499 more votes for a majority depending on how exact the 98% count is.

peteeeed · 05-11-2020 12:10PM

Brian? wrote: »

Only 70% of votes in Philly counted. Is that right?

cnn saying 500,000 postal votes left to count

Itssoeasy · 05-11-2020 12:11PM

castletownman wrote: »

You know that familiar scene in every teen movie where the bully finally gets his/her comeuppance and ends up crying in front of everyone to much hilarity?

That is Trump right now.

What about the moment in those movies where the bully has a road to Damascus moment and realises the err... actually this is Donald trump so let’s not go mad. He doesn’t believe he’s ever wrong.

Brian? · 05-11-2020 12:11PM

peteeeed wrote: »

cnn saying 500,000 postal votes left to count

I can only see one winner in Pennsylvania so.

peteeeed · 05-11-2020 12:12PM

Brian? wrote: »

I can only see one winner in Pennsylvania so.

CNN hinting without saying the same thing

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 05-11-2020 12:14PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

Yes but there is debate on if that as premature|(even if it looks very likely now)

If he gets Georgia is he as practically knocking on the door

Arizona is essentially irrelevant at this point though with the way things are going in PA.

Trump can take back Arizona, he can hold on to Georgia and North Carolina, and he can take back Nevada too, but unless he takes Pennsylvania (which looks highly unlikely) he still won't win.

Itssoeasy · 05-11-2020 12:14PM

So it looks like it’ll be a couple of hours at least until there’s any calls. That call by Fox News and the AP of Arizona to Biden early doors leaves him on 264 and if Arizona goes to Biden which is six electoral votes Fox News and other networks will be out of step with each other and Fox News could have Biden as president elect and the others won’t because they haven’t called Arizona. Just from reading tweets this morning and seeing videos, the trump base and Fox News love affair is if not over, it’s on the rocks.

Strumms · 05-11-2020 12:15PM

It’s so weird and fûcked up, to be waking up, to read a headline, about an election in the supposed greatest democracy on earth..

“Donald Trump supporters - some armed with rifles and handguns - have descended on election counting centres where mail-in ballots continue to be tallied up.”

I mean what the actual fûck ?

https://news.sky.com/story/us-election-2020-trump-supporters-some-armed-with-rifles-gather-outside-vote-counting-centres-for-protests-12124244

droidus · 05-11-2020 12:16PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

So it looks like it’ll be a couple of hours at least until there’s any calls. That call by Fox News and the AP of Arizona to Biden early doors leaves him on 264 and if Arizona goes to Biden which is six electoral votes Fox News and other networks will be out of step with each other and Fox News could have Biden as president elect and the others won’t because they haven’t called Arizona. Just from reading tweets this morning and seeing videos, the trump base and Fox News love affair is if not over, it’s on the rocks.

If I was a US Trump supporter I imagine the betrayal of Fox and Mitch McConnell might be more of a concern/outrage than whatever lib-media-big-tech-ballot-fraud narrative is being spun by the right wing loons. Looks like the conservative establishment has turned its back on Trump.

peteeeed · 05-11-2020 12:18PM

Strumms wrote: »

It’s so weird and fûcked up, to be waking up, to read a headline, about an election in the supposed greatest democracy on earth..

“Donald Trump supporters - some armed with rifles and handguns - have descended on election counting centres where mail-in ballots continue to be tallied up.”

I mean what the actual fûck ?

https://news.sky.com/story/us-election-2020-trump-supporters-some-armed-with-rifles-gather-outside-vote-counting-centres-for-protests-12124244

you would think this is an act of war on democracy and the president of the united states of America would dispatch the army

Retr0gamer · 05-11-2020 12:19PM

droidus wrote: »

If I was a US Trump supporter I imagine the betrayal of Fox and Mitch McConnell might be more of a concern/outrage than whatever lib-media-big-tech-ballot-fraud narrative is being spun by the right wing loons. Looks like the conservative establishment has turned its back on Trump.

Politics is ruthless. A useful idiot is only an idiot once they have out lived their usefulness.

duploelabs · 05-11-2020 12:20PM

peteeeed wrote: »

you would think this is an act of war on democracy and the president of the united states of America would dispatch the army

Except there's always a tweet

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251169217531056130?s=19

thebaz · 05-11-2020 12:21PM

Brian? wrote: »

I can only see one winner in Pennsylvania so.

Go on Philly

bennyl10 · 05-11-2020 12:22PM

Georgia due by 5pm seemingly

Strumms · 05-11-2020 12:26PM

peteeeed wrote: »

you would think this is an act of war on democracy and the president of the united states of America would dispatch the army

This is nutsville. World is ....

duploelabs · 05-11-2020 12:27PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Politics is ruthless. A useful idiot is only an idiot once they have out lived their usefulness.

Exactly why trump won't be on a plane to Russia at the earliest opportunity

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 05-11-2020 12:29PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Politics is ruthless. A useful idiot is only an idiot once they have out lived their usefulness.

As optimistic as it is to think that Trump has outlived his usefulness he still unfortunately has a large, militant following and won't go away even if he loses this election.

josip · 05-11-2020 12:31PM

Following Georgia and to a lesser extent, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania over the past day or so, has been like following a run chase in cricket.

You know the required run rate, how many overs are left and whether the actual run rate (% break to Biden each announcement) is enough.

Brussels Sprout · 05-11-2020 12:33PM

We've often heard about Ohio being the ultimate bellweather state. It had chosen the overall winner in each election all the way back to 1960 (when it went with Nixon over JFK). Well assuming that Trump does indeed lose then that long streak has finally been broken.

I was looking to see what the new longest streak would be. Turns out it isn't really that long.

Michigan, Wisconsin* and Pennsylvania* will have chosen the overall winner in each the last 4 elections - all 3 of them chose John Kerry in 2004.

*assuming Biden actually wins the state in the end

Penn · 05-11-2020 12:34PM

josip wrote: »

Following Georgia and to a lesser extent, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania over the past day or so, has been like following a run chase in cricket.

You know the required run rate, how many overs are left and whether the actual run rate (% break to Biden each announcement) is enough.

If nothing else, watching CNN's stream has greatly enhanced my geographical knowledge of America.

Though it is fairly limited to the 8 states they keep showing

Penn · 05-11-2020 12:35PM

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

We've often heard about Ohio being the ultimate bellweather state. It had chosen the overall winner in each election all the way back to 1960 (when it went with Nixon over JFK). Well assuming that Trump does indeed lose then that long streak has finally been broken.

I was looking to see what the new longest streak would be. Turns out it isn't really that long.

Michigan, Wisconsin* and Pennsylvania* will have chosen the overall winner in each the last 4 elections - all 3 of them chose John Kerry in 2004.

*assuming Biden actually wins the state in the end

As someone on Twitter said, this election won't end with a bang, but with a WI/MI/PA

is_that_so · 05-11-2020 12:35PM

Comment on Biden on CNN that this is just the right time for him to be a Presidential candidate and that he has the ideal skill set for a post-Trump landscape. The question is, what could he, as President, get done in the face of a probable Rep Senate.

pixelburp · 05-11-2020 12:36PM

Looking at the figures, Trump apparently increased his votes overall, while his share among whites; so if Biden is truly going for reconciliation it'll take a lot of work. Trumpism seems to be something that won't disappear overnight - especially if the man himself continues to badger from the sidelines. The cult has asserted itself and even if the transfer of power goes smoothly (it won't), the stain will linger. The midterms will be interesting, insofar as seeing what GOP members adopt Trumpist approaches.

Carfacemandog · 05-11-2020 12:37PM

Strumms wrote: »

It’s so weird and fûcked up, to be waking up, to read a headline, about an election in the supposed greatest democracy on earth..

“Donald Trump supporters - some armed with rifles and handguns - have descended on election counting centres where mail-in ballots continue to be tallied up.”

I mean what the actual fûck ?

https://news.sky.com/story/us-election-2020-trump-supporters-some-armed-with-rifles-gather-outside-vote-counting-centres-for-protests-12124244

Some of us have been saying that would be the case literally for years now, only to be shouted down by people claiming it was overreacting and all will be fine.

I hope they were right, but it's looking less and less like it as time goes by.

Itssoeasy · 05-11-2020 12:38PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Comment on Biden on CNN that this is just the right time for him to be a Presidential candidate and that he has the ideal skill set for a post-Trump landscape. The question is, what could he, as President, get done in the face of a probable Rep Senate.

Well if both Georgia senate seats go to a runoff in January then hold on to your hats as they say. It’ll be like the six nations where one country knows what they have to do to win.

Inquitus · 05-11-2020 12:41PM

josip wrote: »

Following Georgia and to a lesser extent, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania over the past day or so, has been like following a run chase in cricket.

You know the required run rate, how many overs are left and whether the actual run rate (% break to Biden each announcement) is enough.

If it breaks this way, which is looking less likely now, but still possible we can end up at 269-269

Biden - GA
Trump - AZ, NV, PA

US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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