US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

TomOnBoard · 04-11-2020 10:13PM

briany wrote: »

Guiliani giving it welly, here. This is going to get ugly, isn't it?

If Rudey goes to Court with that pile of cow manure as his 'evidence', he'll be gelded by the Courts!

thepogues · 04-11-2020 10:14PM

What's the big deal with news channels declaring, "we're calling it for "x"? Surely all that matters is the final count tally regardless of who claims it for whoever?

Itssoeasy · 04-11-2020 10:15PM

What’s this we have claimed talk from trump about ? Claimed ? It’s a presidential election not a pet who went missing and is found.

Hurrache · 04-11-2020 10:18PM

Fox are even putting Biden on 270 while CNN are holding off on the declaration, they're not entertaining any glimmers of hope for Trump.

moon2 · 04-11-2020 10:19PM

thepogues wrote: »

What's the big deal with news channels declaring, "we're calling it for "x"? Surely all that matters is the final count tally regardless of who claims it for whoever?

Generally speaking they have enough people looking at the stats to accurately predict the final tally. It doesn't *mean* anytihng, but it gives the ordinary person a somewhat informed/accurate estimate of the final outcome.

It's kind of useful for states which have a trump lead yet are predicted to go biden based on info/patterns they've gathered, or vice versa. The average person couldn't make that leap.

Water John · 04-11-2020 10:19PM

AZ will up date voting two times tonight 9 pm and 12 am ET.

briany · 04-11-2020 10:19PM

partyguinness wrote: »

Trump can have PA.

It doesn’t matter.

It would be funny if Trump focuses all his rage on PA only for it not to have mattered anyway. Something tells me he wouldn't pursue the SC case out of simple principle.

BorneTobyWilde · 04-11-2020 10:22PM

partyguinness wrote: »

Trump can have PA.

It doesn’t matter.

Looks like he'll win GA, NC, and PA. Only needs Nevada, and it's close there.

Gap has closed in PA, but he's still so far ahead.

bennyl10 · 04-11-2020 10:23PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Looks like he'll win GA, NC, and PA. Only needs Nevada, and it's close there.

Gap has closed in PA, but he's still so far ahead.

Biden is seemingly going to take PA

And Nevada is staying blue
The votes are in heavy dem areas

Faugheen · 04-11-2020 10:25PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Looks like he'll win GA, NC, and PA. Only needs Nevada, and it's close there.

Gap has closed in PA, but he's still so far ahead.

You literally have no idea what’s going on.

The only one Trump can be confident about, right now, is North Carolina.

What happened in WI and MI is happening in PA and GA. whether there is enough votes in GA remains to be seen but there absolutely is in PA.

Itssoeasy · 04-11-2020 10:25PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

Biden is seemingly going to take PA

And Nevada is staying blue
The votes are in heavy dem areas

Well there’s a lot of votes to be counted there but it’s moving in the right direction for Biden.

Water John · 04-11-2020 10:26PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Looks like he'll win GA, NC, and PA. Only needs Nevada, and it's close there.

Gap has closed in PA, but he's still so far ahead.

Why is Trump chasing AZ if it's not in play?

Mr.Nice Guy · 04-11-2020 10:27PM

Looking increasingly tight in Pennsylvania.

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324112093545639941

briany · 04-11-2020 10:27PM

moon2 wrote: »

Generally speaking they have enough people looking at the stats to accurately predict the final tally. It doesn't *mean* anytihng, but it gives the ordinary person a somewhat informed/accurate estimate of the final outcome.

It's kind of useful for states which have a trump lead yet are predicted to go biden based on info/patterns they've gathered, or vice versa. The average person couldn't make that leap.

Being the first to call a race would have certain benefits for a news channel beyond bragging rights, especially in the days of social media because you quickly get the buzz going around that the BBC or SKY or CNN or Fox calls a particular race and people tune in and then you've got higher ratings for that channel.

Itssoeasy · 04-11-2020 10:28PM

Water John wrote: »

AZ will up date voting two times tonight 9 pm and 12 am ET.

I’ll be asleep as I can’t stay up that late two nights in a row. 12am ET is 5am our time isn’t it ? It might make morning Ireland then.

Midlife · 04-11-2020 10:31PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Looks like he'll win GA, NC, and PA. Only needs Nevada, and it's close there.

Gap has closed in PA, but he's still so far ahead.

The lies, and deliberate ignorance have been really annoying for four years.

Now it's just funny.

Christy42 · 04-11-2020 10:31PM

Water John wrote: »

Why is Trump chasing AZ if it's not in play?

It is imo. Or at least more in play than Nevada given a lot of Republican votes in the next set of mail ins. Biden still pretty favoured but the potential of a race is there.

As for PA, hopefully that goes for Biden as well. I want as much redundancy in the system as possible till it is official.

Mellor · 04-11-2020 10:32PM

moon2 wrote: »

Generally speaking they have enough people looking at the stats to accurately predict the final tally. It doesn't *mean* anytihng, but it gives the ordinary person a somewhat informed/accurate estimate of the final outcome.

It's kind of useful for states which have a trump lead yet are predicted to go biden based on info/patterns they've gathered, or vice versa. The average person couldn't make that leap.

No new outlet has called any state based on patterns of votes for a candidate who is behind . It's universally when they are ahead with an gap that can't be closesd.

Strumms · 04-11-2020 10:34PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

What’s this we have claimed talk from trump about ? Claimed ? It’s a presidential election not a pet who went missing and is found.

The guy is nuts, pure nutsville stuff. Giuliani is not much better.

He knows his game is up, he’s being close to actually being destroyed, yet he doesn’t give up gracefully, he’s trying to talk about challenging the results of the biggest democratic election in history of earth... on a hunch and zero evidence that there was fraud ? Nutsville. The guy is several sandwiches short of a picnic, nutsville. He’s had a taste of it, doesn’t want to loose it, doesn’t want to loose face too... he knows what the Americans are saying tonight, it’s not even pro Biden, it’s...

“ Donald, we’ve had 4 years, we don’t like what we’ve seen and heard, we don’t like what you represent, what you do and how you behave, this is a democracy we choose Joe ! “

What Trump is saying...

“ I want to be president, I like being president, I don’t want to loose, I don’t like loosing, I never loose, so I’ll use whatever tactic, fair means or foul to keep the White House “

He is not a reasonable man, he is not a fair man...I don’t think he plays with a full deck quite frankly.... he is having his ass handed to him, he’s not used to that, he can’t take it, the world watching.

04-11-2020 10:36PM

briany wrote: »

It would be funny if Trump focuses all his rage on PA only for it not to have mattered anyway. Something tells me he wouldn't pursue the SC case out of simple principle.

Huh?
This is a man who sues everyone for everything to try to intimidate them. Given that it won't be his money that'll be being spent he'll have them in court as long as they possibly can.

Akabusi · 04-11-2020 10:37PM

Biden only 60K behind in GA now.

sdanseo · 04-11-2020 10:37PM

prawnsambo wrote: »

Nevada are releasing more numbers today. Apparently they feel the weight of history... Not joking about that, they realised they could be the state that gets the new President over the line.

Have you a source for that? Their last tweet from Nevada Elections was the one saying next update tomorrow 9am (PT - 5pm here).

moon2 · 04-11-2020 10:37PM

Mellor wrote: »

No new outlet has called any state based on patterns of votes for a candidate who is behind . It's universally when they are ahead with an gap that can't be closesd.

Absolutely. If you've been listening to the commentary they have been *projecting* a win for biden based on the district which needed to be counted. They did not *call* the state based on that projection.

errlloyd · 04-11-2020 10:40PM

By my maths Biden only needs 60% of outstanding Georgia to win it, and I predict him to get significantly more than that.

Akabusi · 04-11-2020 10:40PM

This is it wrote: »

60k behind in Georgia, is it possible to catch him? What's left and is it mail votes left?

I'd say there is an outside chance, but wouldn't be confident.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 04-11-2020 10:44PM

droidus wrote: »

PA being touted as +1 Biden assuming trends stay steady and the count continues.

AZ a bit shaky, but it looks as if there's enough of a mix of urban and early votes to keep the dems on top.

NZ still likely to stay blue.

GA a tossup. 50/50. its gonna be close.

Disregard, I'm having issues with boards.ie atm - posts showing up late.

Headshot · 04-11-2020 10:44PM

Interesting Trump wont make any public appearances for the rest of the day according to the White House, not like him to shy away from the camera, he must be losing it big time

alchemist33 · 04-11-2020 10:46PM

everlast75 wrote: »

Wow. If I were a petty man, I'd yuck it up at the GOP tears.

Good thing I'm not, eh?

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1324098069445660674?s=09

I haven't assumed Biden will win. Why are Trumpets assuming so?

I remember when the Trump fans here were saying there wouldn't be any crying if Biden won. It wasn't believable then and it isnt now.

briany · 04-11-2020 10:46PM

Strumms wrote: »

He is not a reasonable man, he is not a fair man...I don’t think he plays with a full deck quite frankly.... he is having his ass handed to him, he’s not used to that, he can’t take it, the world watching.

He's not having his ass handed to as far as I can tell. He has vastly overperformed vs. what the polls predicted and several of the races have been tight, and although the overall race looks to be tipping toward Biden, Trump has increased his own turnout by 3 million from 2016. If he loses, it would be a loss where he can claim a strong mandate to remain in control of the Republican party.

Inquitus · 04-11-2020 10:47PM

Strumms wrote: »

He knows his game is up, he’s being close to actually being destroyed, yet he doesn’t give up gracefully, he’s trying to talk about challenging the results of the biggest democratic election in history of earth... on a hunch and zero evidence that there was fraud ?

India is the world's biggest democracy by quite a big margin!

US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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