US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

Headshot · 04-11-2020 07:34PM

FatherTed wrote: »

Some more election gems....
ND elects a Republican who died from Covid a month ago...

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1323905706521710592

A Nebraska Constitution Amendment to remove Slavery as a punishment for Crime won by 68.16% to 31.84%. Who are these 31% who think this is still ok????

https://ballotpedia.org/Nebraska_Amendment_1,_Remove_Slavery_as_Punishment_for_Crime_from_Constitution_Amendment_(2020)

Trump voters

Brussels Sprout · 04-11-2020 07:35PM

Akabusi wrote: »

Is there anything to stop Trump running again in 2024 provided he does not win this?

Nope and it's even been done successfully once before: Grover Cleveland in 1884 & 1892 (having lost in 1888)

Quin_Dub · 04-11-2020 07:36PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Sky calling wisconsin for Biden

Although that's gonna be contested by Trump.

So , just checking.

The threshold for being able to call for a recount in Wisconsin is 1%.

Biden currently leads by 0.6% with votes still to come. If he breaks the 1% threshold not sure there's a lot Trump can do.

Michigan is a bit more complex - According to Ballotpedia

The Rules are

A candidate can request a recount if all of the following conditions are met:
The candidate ran for one of the following offices: president and vice president, state executive (e.g., governor), U.S. Senate, U.S. House, circuit judges, or state senators and state representatives elected from districts that span more than one county

The request "alleges that the candidate is aggrieved on account of fraud or mistake in the canvass of the votes"

The request "shall contain specific allegations of wrongdoing only if evidence of that wrongdoing is available to the petitioner. If evidence of wrongdoing is not available, the petitioner is only required to allege fraud or a mistake in the petition without further specification."

The request "sets forth as nearly as possible the nature and character of the fraud or mistakes alleged and the counties, cities, or townships and the precincts in which they exist."

The request "specifies the counties, cities, townships, and precincts in which the recount is requested."

So , not very easy to get a recount and would look to be almost impossible to get a Statewide recount as you have to specify issues at each county level at a minimum.

Biden currently leads in Michigan by 0.7%

briany · 04-11-2020 07:37PM

What's going on with Pennsylvania? It's been stuck on 80 percent counted for the last few hours it seems.

Timberrrrrrrr · 04-11-2020 07:41PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

So , just checking.

The threshold for being able to call for a recount in Wisconsin is 1%.

Biden currently leads by 0.6% with votes still to come. If he breaks the 1% threshold not sure there's a lot Trump can do.

Michigan is a bit more complex - According to Ballotpedia

The Rules are

So , not very easy to get a recount and would look to be almost impossible to get a Statewide recount as you have to specify issues at each county level at a minimum.

Biden currently leads in Michigan by 0.7%

I think if he doesn't get 1% he can use the "voter fraud" claim/ clause to get a recount

Mr.Nice Guy · 04-11-2020 07:41PM

Arizona is still a concern despite Fox and AP calling it. That could blow this thing wide open yet.

https://twitter.com/ryanmatsumoto1/status/1324071654352322560

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324071703400665088

If Pennsylvania and Michigan go Biden's way then Arizona won't matter...

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1324069252555485189

Jimbob1977 · 04-11-2020 07:43PM

Headshot wrote: »

Trump voters

Ironically the Democrats were the "party of slavery".

When the Civil War was lost, Southern Democrats founded the Ku Klux Klan to lynch Republicans and freed black people.

Infini · 04-11-2020 07:48PM

Michican is pretry certain at this point for Biden but Pennsylvania is the key, if Biden can manage to flip it in his favour this contest is done without a doubt as thats one of the big catches.

FatherTed · 04-11-2020 07:48PM

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Ironically the Democrats were the "party of slavery".

When the Civil War was lost, Southern Democrats founded the Ku Klux Klan to lynch Republicans and freed black people.

Ironic indeed that the repubs are now the party of slavery.... Lincoln must be rolling in his grave.

vafankillar · 04-11-2020 07:49PM

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Ironically the Democrats were the "party of slavery".

When the Civil War was lost, Southern Democrats founded the Ku Klux Klan to lynch Republicans and freed black people.

ffs not this again, the party switched political spheres/base in the 1960s, that democrat party is basically became todays republican party

Quin_Dub · 04-11-2020 07:51PM

Looking very much like a Net Zero gain in the Senate for the Democrats or at best a +1

Up two - Kelly and Hickenlooper , but lost Doug Jones in Alabama and Peters in Michigan is currently 23k behind - He might catch up though , but cutting it fine.

vafankillar · 04-11-2020 07:51PM

Trump went from 48.9 up to 49.1 for me and then back on two different sites for michigan, anyone else notice that?

paul71 · 04-11-2020 07:53PM

Pennslyania most recent batch of votes (103,366) fell 78% Biden 22% Trump, About 900k to 1 million left and if they fall in same proportion Biden wins by 130,000. If Georgia goes the way I urban and the last update of rural votes has gone that is 320k-35k win for Biden too, Trump is getting North Carolina.

Mr.Nice Guy · 04-11-2020 07:53PM

More positive signs for Biden in PA:

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324075266981978125

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324075955917361155

Quin_Dub · 04-11-2020 07:56PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Moved on a little further

Trump 2,388,026 (+355)
Biden 2,306,532 (+6469)

Huge ratio there toward Biden.

95% complete , so about 250k left to count if I'm working this out right.

A roughly 2/3rds Ratio for Biden would win it and he's been doing better than that in the last few updates.

Another update

Trump - 2,390,030 (+2004)
Biden - 2,312,014 (+5482)

Biden maintaining that required 2/3rds take rate , still technically showing 95% complete.

Quin_Dub · 04-11-2020 08:00PM

paul71 wrote: »

Pennslyania must recent batch of votes (103,366) fell 78% Biden 22% Trump, About 900k to 1 million left and if they fall in same proportion Biden wins by 130,000. If Georgia goes the way I urban and the last update of rural votes has gone that is 320k-35k win for Biden too, Trump is getting North Carolina.

It could end up an inverse of 2016 in terms of EC count.

Trump on 214 , with NC and AK in his column , taking him to 232 , Clintons 2016 Total

Biden on 248 with MI,PA,NV and GA in his column taking him to a potential 306..

Interesting indeed..

pixelburp · 04-11-2020 08:01PM

One things for sure; if it wasn't already obvious across the American cultural landscape, the electoral map sbows the Urban-Rural divide is alive, well and as entrenched as ever. With all the liberal-conservative gulf that implies. Obviously a winner takes all election hides the subtleties within demographics, counties and so on, but on a national levels things seems as partisan as ever.

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 04-11-2020 08:02PM

What States could we find out about by 2am?

Inquitus · 04-11-2020 08:04PM

MattS1 wrote: »

What States could we find out about by 2am?

NV, PA and GA potentially, networks might not call them, but it should be pretty obvious to us watching. PA is probably the biggest prize for Biden as he slowly overturns Trump's in-person vote lead!

eire4 · 04-11-2020 08:05PM

Infini wrote: »

Michican is pretry certain at this point for Biden but Pennsylvania is the key, if Biden can manage to flip it in his favour this contest is done without a doubt as thats one of the big catches.

I would agree. It looks like it pretty much all comes down to Pennsylvania at this point and by the sounds of things it may even be tomorrow before we know the outcome.

Foxtrol · 04-11-2020 08:09PM

eire4 wrote: »

I would agree. It looks like it pretty much all comes down to Pennsylvania at this point and by the sounds of things it may even be tomorrow before we know the outcome.

Biden has routes to take to win that do not include PA.

Overall I think it has turned out pretty well that Trump is trailing in a few states and hoping for late counts to turn things around. If it was just Biden chasing then I feel there would be more attempts to stop all voting.

Headshot · 04-11-2020 08:10PM

A win for Biden in Nevada, Michigan and he's President.

I have a bad feeling that this could still turn but it's looking a lot better compared to yesterday.

Still looking to learn more about a lawsuit to “halt counting” in Michigan. Anyone else learn more about this?

AMKC · 04-11-2020 08:11PM

So Joe Bidden is now the most popular candidate in US history as he has won more votes than any candidate in US history so it's only right that he should become the 46th President of the USA.

martingriff · 04-11-2020 08:12PM

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Ironically the Democrats were the "party of slavery".

When the Civil War was lost, Southern Democrats founded the Ku Klux Klan to lynch Republicans and freed black people.

FatherTed wrote: »

Ironic indeed that the repubs are now the party of slavery.... Lincoln must be rolling in his grave.

The Republican party and the Democratic Party have switched sides and values so many time in there history you would need a mile long chart to show it all

TomOnBoard · 04-11-2020 08:12PM

Infini wrote: »

Michican is pretry certain at this point for Biden but Pennsylvania is the key, if Biden can manage to flip it in his favour this contest is done without a doubt as thats one of the big catches.

A crowd of Trump "observers" are now demonstrating inside the count centre in Detroit, MI and Giuliani heading to PA alleging massive cheating...

Timberrrrrrrr · 04-11-2020 08:14PM

Headshot wrote: »

A win for Biden in Nevada, Michigan and he's President.

I have a bad feeling that this could still turn but it's looking a lot better compared to yesterday.

Still looking to learn more about a lawsuit to “halt counting” in Michigan. Anyone else learn more about this?

Several election "Monitors" were removed due to intimidating behaviour inside the count Hall.

Now they are not letting anymore in (dunno how manynif any are in there) and there is a crowd outside demand to be allowed inside, the police are stopping them.

Trump now calling for counting to cease until election "monitors" are allowed back inside the hall.

Live on sky now.

vafankillar · 04-11-2020 08:15PM

AMKC wrote: »

So Joe Bidden is now the most popular candidate in US history as he has won more votes than any candidate in US history so it's only right that he should become the 46th President of the USA.

it's right that he should become the 46th president of the usa cos that's how elections should work, but he's probably the least 'popular' in terms of people primarily voting against the other candidate and only for him by method

everlast75 · 04-11-2020 08:16PM

For whatever reason Nevada results will not come in until around noon Eastern time tomorrow which is 5:00 p.m. our time??

martingriff · 04-11-2020 08:16PM

FatherTed wrote: »

Ironic indeed that the repubs are now the party of slavery.... Lincoln must be rolling in his grave.

Lincoln may have been against slavery it does not mean he thought them the same as the "white man" in fact a plan he had thought of using was the Back to Africa movement where all blacks would be rounded up and transported to Africa as the 2 would not be able to live together

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-to-Africa_movement

extra gravy · 04-11-2020 08:19PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Several election "Monitors" were removed due to intimidating behaviour inside the count Hall.

Now they are not letting anymore in (dunno how manynif any are in there) and there is a crowd outside demand to be allowed inside, the police are stopping them.

Trump now calling for counting to cease until election "monitors" are allowed back inside the hall.

Live on sky now.

Just waiting for the armed "monitors" to show up now.

US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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