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  • #3392
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,150 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Why does the Washington Post have lower numbers for Biden (224-213) than the Guardian does (238-213)?

    WP hasnt yet given Arizona (11) maine (2) and maine district 1 (1) to biden

    when you apply them, biden is on 238


  • #3393
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,272 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    NBC news has Biden winning Wisconsin by 20k (confirmed) but not updated on any of the sites I'm looking at


  • #3394
    swiwi_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Buer wrote: »
    Big momentum shift but it's going to be something of a hollow victory in reality if the Dems lose both houses. If Biden wins but has no support from the Senate or the HoR, he's going to be a relatively impotent president.

    Impotence is normal at his age.


  • #3395
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pickarooney wrote: »
    NBC news has Biden winning Wisconsin by 20k (confirmed) but not updated on any of the sites I'm looking at

    Maine has just been formally called but it looks like Wisconsin and Michigan will not flip back to Trump.

    Just need Nevada confirmed now.

    I've been a bag of nerves all day - not helped in the least by a minor hangover and complete lack of sleep.


  • #3396
    Bazzo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Maine has just been formally called but it looks like Wisconsin and Michigan will not flip back to Trump.

    Just need Nevada confirmed now.

    I've been a bag of nerves all day - not helped in the least by a minor hangover and complete lack of sleep.

    It seems the one to watch is actually Arizona. They were reporting >99% votes in but that was an error, it's actually apparently only 86% with about 250-300k votes yet to count.

    Trump's campaign is saying they're going to favour him but Biden's campaign are saying the same.


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  • #3397
    Ashlyn Delightful Voter
    Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭ Ashlyn Delightful Voter


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Impotence is normal at his age.

    Personal experience?


  • #3398
    swiwi_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Ashlyn Delightful Voter wrote: »
    Personal experience?

    No I haven’t slept with Joe Biden.


  • #3399
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Trump campaign already demanding a recount in Wisconsin which isn't really all that close 20k +

    Unfortunately they aren't citing the ballot differential and instead citing widespread 'irregularities'.

    Still though - if they are challenging results like this it at least suggests a lack of confidence in other races. For context, Trump won by 22,000 votes in 2016 and there was no recount.


  • #3400
    ClanofLams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    Chaotic election in keeping with 2020 so not making any predictions but it will be very ironic if Arizona denies Trump a second term... Being an asshole to John McCain & family won’t have worked out so well.

    Dems won senate in 2018 and this year so it may have gone blue anyway if it ultimately does but still.


  • #3401
    Bazzo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    No I haven’t slept with Joe Biden.

    You mean "you did not have sexual relations with that man" ?


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  • #3402
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,812 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Trump campaign already demanding a recount in Wisconsin which isn't really all that close 20k +

    Unfortunately they aren't citing the ballot differential and instead citing widespread 'irregularities'.

    Still though - if they are challenging results like this it at least suggests a lack of confidence in other races. For context, Trump won by 22,000 votes in 2016 and there was no recount.

    Recount can't happen until December 1st either. This is going to drag on for god knows how long


  • #3403
    swiwi_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Well the pollsters were a bit wrong anyway. As the French would say "ils se sont trumpés".


  • #3404
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,272 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    What's going on in Maine? Trump won, Biden won.... ?


  • #3405
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    pickarooney wrote: »
    What's going on in Maine? Trump won, Biden won.... ?

    Trump won one electoral vote from one district Biden won the rest


  • #3406
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,812 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    pickarooney wrote: »
    What's going on in Maine? Trump won, Biden won.... ?

    They have a split voting system. So Biden gets 3 electoral votes, Trump gets 1


  • #3407
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,142 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    No surprise but Trump's claims of fraud are unfortunately gaining traction amongst his smitten supporters on Twitter.

    There is such anger in that country, it is so divided. Maybe it always has been on some level, but its sad to see it tearing itself apart like this.

    Looks like Trump may have to be dragged out of the WH.


  • #3408
    swiwi_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    They have a split voting system. So Biden gets 3 electoral votes, Trump gets 1

    How exactly does Maine and Nebraska do it? Even after reading wiki I don’t quite get it.


  • #3409
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    Recount can't happen until December 1st either. This is going to drag on for god knows how long

    More likely other races will have rendered any recount pointless.

    So they are contesting everything.


  • #3410
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,142 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Is it all postal votes to be counted from here on in?

    If it is then Biden surely has this in the bag?


  • #3411
    Bazzo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    Here we go.

    Trump's team are suing in Michigan to immediately stop counting and review votes.


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  • #3412
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,812 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    How exactly does Maine and Nebraska do it? Even after reading wiki I don’t quite get it.

    Two to whoever wins the state overall, and then the remaining two are given to whoever wins in each of the two congressional districts. State is essentially split into two districts. So even though Biden had more votes in both combined, Trump had more votes than Biden in one of them.


  • #3413
    [Deleted User]
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    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    Two to whoever wins the state overall, and then the remaining two are given to whoever wins in each of the two congressional districts. State is essentially split into two districts. So even though Biden had more votes in both combined, Trump had more votes than Biden in one of them.

    Strange system. Better than winner takes all though.


  • #3414
    swiwi_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Does anyone know what Biden stands for other than “not trump” and “can do Covid better”? I didn’t watch the debates but policy detail from either camp seemed almost nonexistent


  • #3415
    thomond2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    bilston wrote: »
    No surprise but Trump's claims of fraud are unfortunately gaining traction amongst his smitten supporters on Twitter.

    There is such anger in that country, it is so divided. Maybe it always has been on some level, but its sad to see it tearing itself apart like this.

    Looks like Trump may have to be dragged out of the WH.

    The grifter blue checkmarks on Twitter have to support him. They piggybacked on his movement to create their 'fame' in the first place.


  • #3416
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,272 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    bilston wrote: »
    Is it all postal votes to be counted from here on in?

    If it is then Biden surely has this in the bag?

    Why exactly are postal votes so heavily skewed towards Biden? I'm assuming some red voters are functionally literate?


  • #3417
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,812 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Why exactly are postal votes so heavily skewed towards Biden? I'm assuming some red voters are functionally literate?

    Probably a mix between people being terrified of getting harassed at polling stations, and not wanting to go into swarms of Covid denier trump supporters.


  • #3418
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,560 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Why exactly are postal votes so heavily skewed towards Biden? I'm assuming some red voters are functionally literate?

    Trump attempted to completely delegitimise postal votes. So a lot of dems (very sensibly) used the option to avoid congregating in polling places on election day while repubs didn't trust the system enough and wanted to vote in person.


  • #3419
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Why exactly are postal votes so heavily skewed towards Biden? I'm assuming some red voters are functionally literate?
    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    Probably a mix between people being terrified of getting harassed at polling stations, and not wanting to go into swarms of Covid denier trump supporters.

    Or Trump supporters don't believe Covid is real so vote in person?


  • #3420
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Does anyone know what Biden stands for other than “not trump” and “can do Covid better”? I didn’t watch the debates but policy detail from either camp seemed almost nonexistent

    Biden actually did have policy positions but there was absolutely no discussion of them that I saw until I went specifically looking for them wondering the same thing.

    But he does have a website!


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  • #3421
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,150 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Why exactly are postal votes so heavily skewed towards Biden? I'm assuming some red voters are functionally literate?

    Because trump literally told his supporters not to vote by post but to vote in person.


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