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Trump vs Biden 2020, And the winner is.......... (pt 4) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    so trump wants every vote counted in the states he's behind, and not to count late votes in the states he's ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Yeah leftie logic right there. Ban everything you don't like.

    Ah come here - you're the one who wants to disenfranchise thousands if not millions of voters simply because you don't like how the election is going. Zero self awareness as usual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    Biden gets sworn in as President, Secretary service toss Trump out of WH.

    I'd imagine he would be hog tied by the secret service and dropped off at the front gate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭AlphaDelta1


    Those couple of straight jumps for Biden first thing this morning are kind of sinister looking..

    https://images.app.goo.gl/b4g1N7DUfWqZ3Jgf6

    That's what the presidents legal team will be all over for the next few hours and days.

    Anyone who thinks Trump is finished yet is delusional


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,457 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Those couple of straight jumps for Biden first thing this morning are kind of sinister looking..

    https://images.app.goo.gl/b4g1N7DUfWqZ3Jgf6

    Keep on clutching there


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭vojiwox


    Those couple of straight jumps for Biden first thing this morning are kind of sinister looking..

    https://images.app.goo.gl/b4g1N7DUfWqZ3Jgf6

    Depends where you're looking from I guess. Some would say glorious :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    lbj666 wrote: »
    Isnt that a given for someone marginally in the lead in those states. I mean he has got roughly over half of the votes so far?

    True but I suppose the nature of these postal votes only further suggests that Biden May end up winning more comfortably then current trend. Bigger margin win leaves Trump less room to argue the toss.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,392 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    That's what the presidents legal team will be all over for the next few hours and days.

    Anyone who thinks Trump is finished yet is delusional

    I think they might need more evidence than a fake graph some loon made up on Twitter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭AlphaDelta1


    Must be the Russians.

    :pac: So true


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,844 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Golden handshakes aren’t permitted under Covid 19 restrictions.

    TRUMP-SAD-2-e1592653051365-350x218.jpg?is-pending-load=1

    "Please tell me golden showers are"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Secretary service? Sounds like something Clinton would of availed of :D

    Ill take Stormy Daniels for $500 please Alex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,021 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Biden gets sworn in as President, Secretary service toss Trump out of WH.

    what about the ones that have to give him life long protection?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,119 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,414 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    https://mielections.us/election/results/2020GEN_CENR.html

    BTW if trump gets arizona and penn he's at 270?
    He is currently on 213...so no.
    I don't know that site but AP (ie reliable) has the below
    Arizona - Has Biden up 93kish
    Penn - Trump is up by 450k...but only 64 percent reporting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    a recount in wisconsin would likely only flip a few hundred votes (if it went his way). a 20k+ flip he would need would be extremely unlikely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Those couple of straight jumps for Biden first thing this morning are kind of sinister looking..

    https://images.app.goo.gl/b4g1N7DUfWqZ3Jgf6


    What do you think happened?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,245 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    I never said they did. Read the post again i was referring to the poster hoping he was banned.

    Twitter are a business and have no obligation to provide a platform to someone who is alleging illegal activity without evidence, which is what he is doing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    froog wrote: »
    so trump wants every vote counted in the states he's behind, and not to count late votes in the states he's ahead.

    Well if it’s only 1% you can hardly blame him,I’m sure Biden would do likewise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    https://mielections.us/election/results/2020GEN_CENR.html

    BTW if trump gets arizona and penn he's at 270?
    He's a good bit behind in Arizona and there are 1m votes to count in PA so a fair ask.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Secretary service? Sounds like something Clinton would of availed of :D

    They might need small hands to toss Trump


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Well if it’s only 1% you can hardly blame him,I’m sure Biden would do likewise

    keep counting votes sure, but biden would never demand votes stop being counted.


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    vojiwox wrote: »
    Depends where you're looking from I guess. Some would say glorious :pac:

    I know many Biden supporters probably think it's fine..

    Scary..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    what about the ones that have to give him life long protection?

    What about them, they probably be allowed to walk out with a smile on their face. They have to protect the man, it doesn't mean they have to agree with him or like him.


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    What do you think happened?

    What do you think happened?..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Or some people are sick of career politicians doing ****all for people. It's obvious people want change both here and in the states.

    Oh sorry, yeah, we're all "paid alt-right trolls", when do I collect my money?

    Yeah but instead of politicians that have done **** all for people you would rather a guy born with a golden spoon in his gob, never had to graft for anything, that has more success at running businesses into the ground than Gerald Ratner, lauds some very despicable politicians and has an odious uncaring attitude towards people in the main.

    Trump has done fook all for people.
    He has let his citizens die through not alone his inaction, but his stupidity and lack of empathy.

    And while this line might have worked in 2016 it doesn't work today.
    I have defended how normal decent people in lots of forgotten parts of that states could have voted for him in hope in 2016, there is absolutely no way to defend people that have voted for him this week.
    froog wrote: »
    so trump wants every vote counted in the states he's behind, and not to count late votes in the states he's ahead.

    Kinda childish isn't it.

    You have to seriously wonder about people that actually thinks that is ok.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Well if it’s only 1% you can hardly blame him,I’m sure Biden would do likewise

    Trump had a meltdown four years ago when Clinton asked for a recount in the same state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Well if it’s only 1% you can hardly blame him,I’m sure Biden would do likewise
    It's a fairly standard procedure and will not do much to Trump's total.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    I know many Biden supporters probably think it's fine..

    Scary..

    It's perfectly natural, if you realise that not all counting locations are in total sync all the time, they could get counts in batches. A batch can come from Philly which can be 80% Biden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    froog wrote: »
    A question, what happens if Trump digs in and refuses to concede defeat if it does materialise that Biden wins. Has that ever happened in history before and if it does happen, who ultimately has the power to remove Trump?


    he would be removed by force.




    No. There are many possible scenarios. Removal by force is not one of them unless you get into a civil war situation.




    People are somewhat familiar with the concept of a "faithless elector". They are generally less familiar with "duelling electors".


    It is not impossible that we could end up with a duelling electors scenario, particularly if Trump calls out to his supporters to prevent the election being stolen from him by fraud.



    You could get that some state legislatures or governors send two slates that is contrary to each other, with one being contrary to the state election result. In that scenario a few things could happen. The houses could decide which one to accept. Or they might not be able to decide. One possible outcome is that the EC, which is overseen by the President of the Senate (a Mr. Pence) decides to throw out all electors from that state because they cannot decide which is the "real" ones. Don't forget, US is a Federal system - it is up to the states to decide who they want to send as electors.



    Under that scenario, it is possible that neither candidate meets the 270 majority. Then it reverts back to the House of representatives. At that point it is up to the house to elect the President. However, the vote is per delegation and not per delegate. Which effectively means one vote per state.



    Ultimately it could be that scenario that plays out. If Trump refuses to concede, immediately storming the Whitehouse and dragging him out as the poster appears to think, is as much against their system as anything else that as been suggested.



    If Biden is elected by the EC, or in the event that the EC does not elect a "Winner" - by the House, and Trump barricades himself into the Whitehouse, then of course he will be removed from it. But not until then. That is a different scenario to "refusing to concede". That would be refusing to accept the final result which is a different thing that refusing to accept the result of the election.



    BTW, when it goes to the House, they are under no obligations to even consider the popular vote.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Some of my conservative friends are having a tantrum on Facebook that Biden has taken the lead in Michigan. Cries of conspiracy.


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