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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,291 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    Well this is something I never thought I’d hear someone say in 2020.

    Geeez, WHOOSH!
    I was joking :)


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Inquitus wrote: »
    I am tired, I mistyped. Biden has WI and MI for sure, PA is a bit more up in the air as he has a much bigger gap to close.

    Ah. My apologies.

    I too blame my sleep-deprived self for my cranky response.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Windmill100000


    I am taking it as a positive that Trump is laying the foundation of defeat by setting the balls in motion that he was robbed. That has given me hope.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    nc6000 wrote: »
    It looks likely they will win about 25 states each.

    Not that it's looking like a possible scenario right now , but if that were the case who has the casting vote?

    I'd guess the leader of the House (Pelosi in this case ) but given how arcane and convoluted the US system seems to be , who knows?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Biden with a 21k lead in Wisconsin and 10k in Michigan, and they have continued to grow

    ya we're all but done here


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Looks like Trump has awoken from his slumber.
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    2m
    Last night I was leading, often solidly, in many key States, in almost all instances Democrat run & controlled. Then, one by one, they started to magically disappear as surprise ballot dumps were counted. VERY STRANGE, and the “pollsters” got it completely & historically wrong!
    This is embarrassing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,167 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Nody wrote: »
    Well for nothing else this is honestly amazing:
    https://twitter.com/ElectProject/status/1323897443398942726

    I'm very curious what the numbers will look like in 2024 and if the negative energy (get rid of Trump at all costs / stick it to the liberals) will still drive people to vote.
    How is that negative energy? That is positive energy. Trump and his ilk are negative energy.
    I would say it will really depend on how the Biden presidency goes and who will be the candidates in 2024 as to what electoral turnout will be like then.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Given how close the Senate is going to be , even under GOP control that special election in Georgia between Loeffler and Warnock is going to be a sight to behold.

    Every penny left in either Presidential fund and Party Coffers is going to get emptied into Georgia over the next 8 or 9 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,509 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Looks like Trump has awoken from his slumber.

    This is embarrassing.

    He doesn't even understand the American electoral system, or any system for that matter, and how the number come through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭droidus


    I don't see Biden winning GA and PA based on current projections.

    That would leave us with 270 for Biden.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭Shelga


    If Biden wins WI, MI and NV he's on 270 right?

    But if he loses any one of those, and Trump wins PA, GA and NC, Trump wins the election?

    It still seems all to play for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,396 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Hurrache wrote: »
    He doesn't even understand the American electoral system, or any system for that matter, and how the number come through.

    He knows full well how it works


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    droidus wrote: »
    I don't see Biden winning GA and PA based on current projections.

    That would leave us with 270 for Biden.

    Nearly everything left is vote-by-mail.

    There is simply no way you can make that call. Nearly everything left in Georgia is in Atlanta.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,509 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    He knows full well how it works

    I dunno, anyone else you'd put it down to mischief, with him you just can't credit him that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    So was anything actually presented to the supreme Court about stopping the vote or was that all the usual bluster.

    I would say the afters could be similar bluster. A lot of threats without a real lawyer needing to lift a pen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭jasonb


    I imagine he knows exactly how it works, he just wants to preach the conspiracy theory to his followers...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    If Trump doesn't win, it's fraud. If he wins, it's totally fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1324006396397002752

    What if this all boils down to Nevada?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭Roanmore


    What is the basis for his SC challenge?
    Is it solely with mail in ballots or the fact that they are counting votes after Nov 3 which was never an issue before?

    I see Farage going on about widespread fraud on Andrew Neil show but when asked he said no evidence yet


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,613 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    AMKC wrote: »
    How is that negative energy? That is positive energy. Trump and his ilk are negative energy.
    I would say it will really depend on how the Biden presidency goes and who will be the candidates in 2024 as to what electoral turnout will be like then.
    Voting to get rid of Trump is not voting on Biden because you like his policies. Obama did not drive voters out in great numbers because getting rid of the republican but because he drove hope in the voting process. Now if we compare the two I agree Trump and Trump's time in power has been far more negative driven but if you had replaced Trump with Bush clone 2.0 for the four years instead do you think the number of voters would been even close to this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Shelga wrote: »
    If Biden wins WI, MI and NV he's on 270 right?

    But if he loses any one of those, and Trump wins PA, GA and NC, Trump wins the election?

    It still seems all to play for?


    Those are the permutations alright. WI & MI seem very positive for Biden now. NV is probably the dodgiest of them. The thing is that Biden has a very good shout in PA and also GA is very close so he has a lot of different paths to victory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭jasonb


    If my maths are right, Biden has pulled back 100k in Pennslyvania in the last couple of hours. Still 500k behind though.

    It's looking positive for Biden, but until AP calls Wisconsin, Michigan and Nevada (tomorrow at the earliest) or he gets Georgia or NC or Pennsylvania, it's not done yet...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,929 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    J2CVC wrote: »
    Man you're way out on this. Bookmakers follow the exchanges. They're all the same. If they're not people can hedge bets and guarantee a profit. Believe me the betting market is the best indicator you will find.
    Looks like Trump has awoken from his slumber.

    This is embarrassing.

    Somebody should tell him it's called waiting to count all the votes. Simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭Movementarian


    https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1324006396397002752

    What if this all boils down to Nevada?

    It doesnt look like arizona is in play for Trump at all, 538 are showing it 99% counted and Biden ahead by 3.4 points


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,485 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1324006396397002752

    What if this all boils down to Nevada?


    They are deluded Arizona is 99% reported and Biden leads by 100k, also Nevadas postal votes that are left are all clark county which is at 84% and if it stays at its current percentage for Biden will outweigh any gains he makes elsewhere in the state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Hmm it seems that AZ hasn't been called. That also complicates matters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭droidus


    AZ has been called for Biden. Id be very surprised if trump takes Nevada.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,464 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    jasonb wrote: »
    I imagine he knows exactly how it works, he just wants to preach the conspiracy theory to his followers...

    And as you can see here, they will lap it up. This was the plan all along.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Really hard to keep track of counts when different media report different numbers. I'm going with the Reuters one that RTE is using.

    Looks like there's about 270,000 votes to be counted from Detroit still, and Biden is winning 2:1 there, which gives him a 90,000 vote lead out of Detroit alone.

    With 230,000 other votes still to be counted from the rest of Michigan, Trump would have to win at least 3:1 out of these in order to turn MI around.

    Back of napkin calculations, but says to me that it's in the bag.

    Suggestions that Trump thinks Az is still available, but Biden is 100,000 votes ahead with less than 100,000 votes to count. So that's a definite.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1324006396397002752

    What if this all boils down to Nevada?

    Shouldn't have a hope in Nevada based on whats left to be counted and mail in

    they needed MI and WN and now are panicking


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