FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

maewest19 · 02-11-2020 10:23PM

Yes, probably the best thing to do! Does anybody have a good email address to reach them on? In classic Law Society fashion, they have ignored my last few emails...

ruby1998 · 02-11-2020 10:25PM

Btw the better examinations has been updated to say we have 3.5 hours to complete exam!

Al1501 · 02-11-2020 10:26PM

maewest19 wrote: »

Bit of a weird question, but do you think we will be allowed talk to ourselves in the exam? I feel like if i'm not allowed to jot down an essay outline, I will need to talk myself through it! Sort of it plan it out loud, if that makes sense. I really don't find the sticky note feature helpful.

The parameters will be set by the law society, but I know people have failed Proctorio exams before because they read the answer aloud to themselves and it was flagged as cheating.

fe1fi20 · 02-11-2020 10:28PM

awsah wrote: »

I dont know why but my gut is telling me solicitors is due a run this year!

I'm the same tbh

Lawlaw12 · 02-11-2020 10:29PM

maewest19 wrote: »

Yes, probably the best thing to do! Does anybody have a good email address to reach them on? In classic Law Society fashion, they have ignored my last few emails...

novemberfe1@lawsociety.ie

Edit: Their last email said: "Email queries should be sent to novemberfe1@lawsociety.ie only. Please note that we will not be monitoring other Law Society email addresses during the examination period"

Lawlaw12 · 02-11-2020 10:31PM

Not that they seem to monitor them outside the examination period either lol

DUMSURFER · 02-11-2020 10:59PM

Do people think he would ask a question on Fiduciary Duties again?

nicolesd · 02-11-2020 11:16PM

can anyone clarify for me tests in vicarious liabilty city colleges and my manual seem to say scope test but then seemed to have mashed the scope'course together -

would you say theres the course test, scope test and close connection test or

is it just in the course/scope of employment as one test and close connection has the other more complex test for sexual assaults/child abuse/criminal acts?

awsah · 02-11-2020 11:33PM

nicolesd wrote: »

can anyone clarify for me tests in vicarious liabilty city colleges and my manual seem to say scope test but then seemed to have mashed the scope'course together -

would you say theres the course test, scope test and close connection test or

is it just in the course/scope of employment as one test and close connection has the other more complex test for sexual assaults/child abuse/criminal acts?

Quill prefers a mix of course and scope so you would look both at, was the harm done during the course of his work or was it in the parameters of the authority delegated to him by his employer (scope). Irish courts seem to prefer the scope test. An employer is generally not vicariously liable for criminal acts committed done by employees but there has been some successful cases.

The close connection test is English I believe

bobbyness · 02-11-2020 11:35PM

nicolesd wrote: »

is it just in the course/scope of employment as one test and close connection has the other more complex test for sexual assaults/child abuse/criminal acts?

My personal take on it was a "simple test" for regular instances of a tort, and a "complex test" for more serious ones.

shaunadennyham · 02-11-2020 11:49PM

I have the tort exam showing on my schedule even though I passed it in august - anyone else having the same issue?

awsah · 02-11-2020 11:53PM

nicolesd wrote: »

can anyone clarify for me tests in vicarious liabilty city colleges and my manual seem to say scope test but then seemed to have mashed the scope'course together -

would you say theres the course test, scope test and close connection test or

is it just in the course/scope of employment as one test and close connection has the other more complex test for sexual assaults/child abuse/criminal acts?

Here is some recent English case law that might be worth a mention in the exam!

Two significant decisions delivered by the UK Supreme Court in April 2020 will provide welcome relief to employers on the extent to which they can be held "vicariously liable" for the actions of employees or individuals acting under the employer's direction.

In the cases of Barclays Bank plc v Various Claimants [2020] UKSC 13 and WM Morrison Supermarkets plc v Various Claimants [2020] UKSC 12 [2020] UKSC 12, the UK Supreme Court rowed back on an apparent widening of the doctrine of vicarious liability. The Court reversed previous findings that the relevant employer should be liable for the actions of individuals that were outside the employer's control.

The UK Supreme Court concluded that Morrisons was not vicariously liable for a massive data breach committed by a rogue employee nor was Barclays Bank vicariously liable for sexual assaults allegedly committed by an independent contractor (a doctor conducting pre-employment medical assessments on behalf of Barclays).

Lawlaw12 · 03-11-2020 12:13AM

shaunadennyham wrote: »

I have the tort exam showing on my schedule even though I passed it in august - anyone else having the same issue?

me too

FE1Rookie · 03-11-2020 12:17AM

Could someone who is sitting Tort tomorrow answer a few logistical questions for me.

- What exactly was the pre-exam process, was it the same as the mock ones where you 1. Showed your ID and 2. Showed your face smiling? Or was there an extra prompt to show your legislation and desk etc.?

- Were you shown your score, or any potential flags on your sitting in regards to this proctoring software. The language around this, and the entire process, seems very vague and quite frankly sketchy.

Thanks to anyone who could clarify what it was like to sit one of these "betterexaminations" exams. Best of luck to all

shaunadennyham · 03-11-2020 12:24AM

FE1Rookie wrote: »

Could someone who is sitting Tort tomorrow answer a few logistical questions for me.

- What exactly was the pre-exam process, was it the same as the mock ones where you 1. Showed your ID and 2. Showed your face smiling? Or was there an extra prompt to show your legislation and desk etc.?

- Were you shown your score, or any potential flags on your sitting in regards to this proctoring software. The language around this, and the entire process, seems very vague and quite frankly sketchy.

Thanks to anyone who could clarify what it was like to sit one of these "betterexaminations" exams. Best of luck to all

I’m actually planning on logging on for the tort exam even though I’ve passed it just to see what the process is like - will post here after and let you all know!

Hopefully LS doesn’t see this as me disregarding my pass and doing the exam again haha

mmullen · 03-11-2020 12:25AM

For anyone who is sitting an exam next week - are they showing up in your ‘upcoming exams’? Sitting contract but it’s still showing as ‘no more exams scheduled’...

FE1Rookie · 03-11-2020 12:40AM

mmullen wrote: »

For anyone who is sitting an exam next week - are they showing up in your ‘upcoming exams’? Sitting contract but it’s still showing as ‘no more exams scheduled’...

Sitting a few now and none have come up yet. First one isn't for a few days yet though.

03-11-2020 01:04AM

Does anyone have a sample answer or would even be able to lay out a few points as to changes brought in by the 2014 companies act?

Trying to cram as much in as possible and thinking I might need a half-assed answer on that as a backup?

law_struggles · 03-11-2020 01:08AM

Any recent developments in online defamation?

illy.m · 03-11-2020 01:59AM

COMPANY

Can someone please approve this:

Priority of charges:
1. Fixed charge holders;
2. Preferential creditors - revenue, employees
3. Secured Creditors - fixed charged over book debts, floating charges
4. Unsecured creditors

Is the above the correct order of priority?

BugsySiegel · 03-11-2020 01:59AM

Hey folks, am I right in saying there is no requirement to enter a student number or any other personal details when taking these through betterexaminations. Just want to make sure I havent missed something in the correspondence from the law society.

Lawlaw12 · 03-11-2020 02:07AM

BugsySiegel wrote: »

Hey folks, am I right in saying there is no requirement to enter a student number or any other personal details when taking these through betterexaminations. Just want to make sure I havent missed something in the correspondence from the law society.

Yes

fe1fi20 · 03-11-2020 09:10AM

Morning all, and best of luck to all of us starting the exams today. I hope all our hard work pays off for us

jus_me · 03-11-2020 09:13AM

Once we log in at half 9 are we being recorded or can we still look at notes ?

ruby1998 · 03-11-2020 09:23AM

jus_me wrote: »

Once we log in at half 9 are we being recorded or can we still look at notes ?

Can't say for certain but since I don't think we were told anything to the contrary, I think it will be ok to look at notes. Best of luck all!

KCSLAW · 03-11-2020 09:32AM

Hi guys, hope study is going well. Could anyone tell me how long it took for legislation ordered from the OPW to arrive and to where ish? (I'm in the west)

lsheehaneire · 03-11-2020 09:54AM

Good luck everyone! Let us know how it all goes ðŸ™‚

Al1501 · 03-11-2020 10:15AM

Best of luck to all sitting Tort today! May you all have a lovely paper

FE1new · 03-11-2020 10:23AM

KCSLAW wrote: »

Hi guys, hope study is going well. Could anyone tell me how long it took for legislation ordered from the OPW to arrive and to where ish? (I'm in the west)

In Wicklow it took about 3 working days to arrive but I'm in the middle of nowhere. I ordered it on the Thursday and got it the next Tuesday morning.

SKLaw · 03-11-2020 10:23AM

Good luck everyone!

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