Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

elperello wrote: »

That is an interesting suggestion and perhaps a new system of remuneration could be part of any new Public Broadcasting Service in the future. For now the current system applies and should be honoured.

Worth noting that increments don't apply to contractors pay.

Same question that I've asked you a couple of times before but which you refuse to answer... Do you work for/contract to RTE? I think you should at least give people full disclosure if you're going to blindly defend everything they do, no matter how bad it is, in this thread.

elperello wrote: »

Just for the record I don't think I "blindly" defend RTE.

It seems like you do, this is from some who supports RTÉ, though it may not seem that way at times.

I have no problem with your idea but they tend to just stop short.

for example you keep saying no changes until we know what we want from public service broadcast and I assume that this is when the Future of Media Committee meets at some point during 2021 or perhaps in Dec 2020. So lets say the Future of Media comes to the following conclusions which I believe they will.

1. The Licence Fee to be renamed and collect in a different manner (applied to all)
2. That the sound and vision fund will go towards News and CA , and online media production, something that is not provide for in the Broadcasting Act 2009.
3. Some funding toward non-broadcast news outlets.

They might, but I don't think the will, say move the NCO to the NCH and fund it from the exchequer like the NSO.

The above doesn't really change anything other then to hope that RTÉ will get out of its financial strangle hold and that independent news providers will be able to access some funding and that online video and audio provide also get something. all of which is pretty much what they are all asking for.

The SPI might see the percentage of the license fee going toward independent product rise but they seem to be pretty happy to let the license increase and in turn increase their funding.

I doubt that any new commitments will be put on RTÉ in terms of output.

So in saying and lets as an experiment suggest that the above happens what do you think should change once these are all implemented, particularly for RTÉ as this thread is about them.

elperello wrote: »

No problem with RTE trying to do a better job in the day to day stuff. Seeking improvements in the running of an organisation should be part and parcel of any management's brief.

and if they don't seek improvements?

Elmo wrote: »

It seems like you do, this is from some who supports RTÉ, though it may not seem that way at times.

I have no problem with your idea but they tend to just stop short.

for example you keep saying no changes until we know what we want from public service broadcast and I assume that this is when the Future of Media Committee meets at some point during 2021 or perhaps in Dec 2020. So lets say the Future of Media comes to the following conclusions which I believe they will.

1. The Licence Fee to be renamed and collect in a different manner (applied to all)
2. That the sound and vision fund will go towards News and CA , and online media production, something that is not provide for in the Broadcasting Act 2009.
3. Some funding toward non-broadcast news outlets.

They might, but I don't think the will, say move the NCO to the NCH and fund it from the exchequer like the NSO.

The above doesn't really change anything other then to hope that RTÉ will get out of its financial strangle hold and that independent news providers will be able to access some funding and that online video and audio provide also get something. all of which is pretty much what they are all asking for.

The SPI might see the percentage of the license fee going toward independent product rise but they seem to be pretty happy to let the license increase and in turn increase their funding.

I doubt that any new commitments will be put on RTÉ in terms of output.

So in saying and lets as an experiment suggest that the above happens what do you think should change once these are all implemented, particularly for RTÉ as this thread is about them.

You perception of my comments is your own.

I prefer not to prejudge the outcome and base a lot of conjecture on something that may not happen.

As I have said before I think there is a lot of mileage left in TV and radio as part of media. I hope we will have a sustainable Public Broadcasting Service in this country in the medium to long term.

Elmo wrote: »

and if they don't seek improvements?

To be honest I don't see what you or I could do about it but the people whose job it is should.

Deleted User wrote: »

Then they’re not doing their job, and a performance review would expose that.

I believe the BAI carry out that review and it concluded they needed 30million a year extra.

reflects the BAI’s expected role in leading and influencing change and transforming itself as an organisation for integration into the new Media Commission

Michael O’Keeffe
CEO - IRTC (1988 - 2001) Irish Radio and Television Commission
CEO - BCI (2001 - 2009) Broadcasting Commission of Ireland
CEO - BAI (2009 - 20--) Broadcasting Authority of Ireland (Replacing both the RTÉ Authority and the BCI)

He might just make The Media Commission, though he's due for retirement.

The IRTC isn't going anywhere its just being rebranded, again.

Elmo wrote: »

Thanks! you're being very general. You not giving any real idea of your position, and its a very, very general position.

Lets have some conjecture, I have followed this I would be surprised if the Future of Media does anything major.

Do you think RTÉ are currently doing a good job?

Simple question the RTÉ News Channel what do you think of its rebrand from RTÉ News Now, did they do a good job?

Again, you are entitled to your assessment of my posts.

As I said I'd rather avoid speculation.

If you asked me to mark RTE's report card I'd say could do better.

Not really interested in dissecting the minutiae of how to run a broadcasting organisation but if you insist I think the News Channel is ok for my needs.

^^^^
And VM don't have a rake of ads for their own shows either

elperello wrote: »

I prefer not to prejudge the outcome and base a lot of conjecture on something that may not happen.

She said RTÉ cannot return to a stable financial position or make the investments it needs if the TV licence system is not reformed, and she said the establishment of the new Future of Media Commission , which looks at media funding, is a welcome development.

I would never prejudge anything either. Fortunately RTÉ are only to happy to wait for their increase revenue from the new reformed license fee rather than reforming RTÉ.

You could say that the Commission has not be set up to increase the revenues of RTÉ and such prejudgments are pure conjecture.

elperello wrote: »

My own preference is to remove the licence fee entirely and fund public broadcasting from direct taxation.

This would end the collection and enforcement expense and everyone would pay a small share of the cost.

Of course this assumes that public broadcasting is something worth having and is of benefit to the citizens.

I respect your view but at this point in time I would consider it to be detrimental to society at the moment rather than a benefit. It is an outdated model at this stage.