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Covid question - help please.

  • 18-10-2020 7:36pm
    #1
    crx===
    Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭


    As an athletics Coach I'm a little confused with current guidance.
    This is from Athletics Ireland :
    no visitors to home or garden, with the exception of visits for essential purposes (e.g. family reasons such as providing care to children, elderly or vulnerable people, and in particular those who live alone).
    in outdoor settings away from home/garden, up to 6 people from no more than 2 households can meet while maintaining strict social distancing – including for outdoor exercise and dining.

    Key Restrictions at Level 3

    No competition/events.

    Outdoor training pods of up to 15 socially distanced.
    For club training is it 6 from 2 different households only or a pod of 15??
    I'm aware all this could change after tomorrow's announcement.
    Thanks for your help


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  • #2
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    Our club sent out a statement last week saying "we can continue to train outdoors in groups of 15. Please try to remain in similar pods every week"


  • #3
    Wottle
    Registered Users Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭Wottle


    Pods of 15 and if we move to level 4 it remains the same, only level 5 puts a stop to it. But who knows what the government will do next, talk of a mixture of level 4&5.


  • #4
    joe35
    Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭joe35


    Anyone know how training works now


  • #5
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    Unless they make an exception, level 5 would mean individual training only, and inside a 5 km radius from home


  • #6
    ThebitterLemon
    Registered Users Posts: 6,621 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    Unless they make an exception, level 5 would mean individual training only, and inside a 5 km radius from home

    Thought you could exercise (outside) with one other household?

    TbL


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  • #7
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    ThebitterLemon wrote: »
    Thought you could exercise (outside) with one other household?

    TbL

    That would be one of those exceptions, then. RTE news says:
    However it is understood that in a move away from this the Cabinet has agreed to allow people to meet up outdoors with one other household away from home for things such as exercise. This would have to be within the 5km limit

    Not exactly a club training session though, is it?


  • #8
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    TFBubendorfer wrote: »
    That would be one of those exceptions, then. RTE news says:



    Not exactly a club training session though, is it?

    I thought that exception is for people living alone, not for the general public.


  • #9
    ThebitterLemon
    Registered Users Posts: 6,621 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    I thought that exception is for people living alone, not for the general public.

    Nope, it seems you can also exercise outdoors with one other family within 5k radius.

    My work buddy run should be ok so but I think my missus hates his missus 🀣

    TbL


  • #10
    UM1
    Registered Users Posts: 508 ✭✭✭UM1


    ThebitterLemon wrote: »

    My work buddy run should be ok so but I think my missus hates his missus 🀣

    TbL
    Mike or Tom?


  • #11
    Shell to Run
    Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭Shell to Run


    From Athletics Ireland
    Overnight the government have updated the Level 5 Covid guidance to allow parents/guardians an exception to travel greater than 5km to take school aged children to permitted training as provided for in the sporting and exercise section of the link below.

    Exercise and sporting events

    Training and matches

    No training or matches should take place, with the following exceptions:

    non-contact training can continue for school aged children, outdoors in pods of 15
    professional, elite sports and inter-county Gaelic games, horse-racing and greyhound racing are permitted to continue behind closed doors
    All other training activities should be individual only.

    No exercise or dance classes are permitted.

    Gyms, leisure centres and swimming pools are closed.


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  • #12
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    ThebitterLemon wrote: »
    Nope, it seems you can also exercise outdoors with one other family within 5k radius.

    My work buddy run should be ok so but I think my missus hates his missus ��

    TbL

    Would you know if that's one defined particular family./household..or can it be a different person each time you go running?

    Thanks.


  • #13
    Murph_D
    Registered Users Posts: 10,414 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Would you know if that's one defined particular family./household..or can it be a different person each time you go running?

    Thanks.

    The wording in this government press release is:

    it is possible to meet with one other household in an outdoor setting which is not a home or garden, such as a park, including for exercise

    There's no doubt it's ambiguous. Just my opinion, but as it doesn't specifically say it has to be the same 'one other household' every time, I'd assume it means it can be different each time. It also begs the question, can there be more than one person from each household? Also unclear.


  • #14
    jlang
    Registered Users Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭jlang


    Under exercise: "All other training activities must be individual only" and under social and family gatherings: "It is possible to meet with 1 other household in an outdoor setting which is not a home or garden, such as a park, including for exercise."


    So all group runs are definitely out, three people from different houses is out, and whether you allow 2 people to run together depends on whether they are doing it as training or as a social gathering. Three people from two households would be similarly between the cracks of what is defined - potentially Mrs K can't train with Mr K but she can meet up for a social walk in the park with Mr and Mrs J while continuing to coach a pod of kids from fifteen different households.



    I don't expect much clarification to be forthcoming or, for that matter, any enforcement on people who aren't deliberately taking the piss.



    I also expect these rules on outdoor exercise to be relaxed significantly in the first round of relaxation, possibly before even the reopening of tennis and golf clubs and adult football/etc. getting the nod to train outdoors.


  • #15
    Ceepo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    And yet Tennis is still going ahead, and golf course are closed..

    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/tennis-clubs-to-remain-open-in-level-5-until-further-clarification-is-provided-1.4387392


  • #16
    Murph_D
    Registered Users Posts: 10,414 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Ceepo wrote: »
    And yet Tennis is still going ahead, and golf course are closed..

    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/tennis-clubs-to-remain-open-in-level-5-until-further-clarification-is-provided-1.4387392

    You can blame Phil Hogan and the ‘Entertainers Golf Society’ for that one.


  • #17
    Ceepo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    Murph_D wrote: »
    You can blame Phil Hogan and the ‘Entertainers Golf Society’ for that one.

    His legacy lives on unfortunately


  • #18
    Annie get your Run
    Registered Users Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    jlang wrote: »
    Under exercise: "All other training activities must be individual only" and under social and family gatherings: "It is possible to meet with 1 other household in an outdoor setting which is not a home or garden, such as a park, including for exercise."


    So all group runs are definitely out, three people from different houses is out, and whether you allow 2 people to run together depends on whether they are doing it as training or as a social gathering. Three people from two households would be similarly between the cracks of what is defined - potentially Mrs K can't train with Mr K but she can meet up for a social walk in the park with Mr and Mrs J while continuing to coach a pod of kids from fifteen different households.



    I don't expect much clarification to be forthcoming or, for that matter, any enforcement on people who aren't deliberately taking the piss.



    I also expect these rules on outdoor exercise to be relaxed significantly in the first round of relaxation, possibly before even the reopening of tennis and golf clubs and adult football/etc. getting the nod to train outdoors.

    eh I think Mrs K can definitely train with Mr K, to my knowledge none of these restrictions apply to people from the same household? if you live in a house with 5 adults you could potentially all go for a run together although no doubt anyone in that situation is looking to run away from their 4 housemates :D.


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