Why is it now called HOLLO-een?

20-10-2020 05:17PM

riffmongous wrote: »

But the name actually is Leeedle.. it's a German name

Is that how they actually pronounce it in Germany though?

Or is it someone in Ireland making it up in order to try and make it sound fancy and everybody imitates them for fear of appearing common?

Hamsterchops · 20-10-2020 05:21PM

Always been Halloween (with an a) for as long as I can remember, and when I was young we carved out turnips, as pumpkins were not seen or not available in Ireland (that I can remember). No trick or treating either, just going house to collect nuts and apples.

Don't know where Holloween came from?

NickNickleby · 20-10-2020 05:32PM

I believe it comes from America, where they never learned to pronounce Sam Hain = Thanks very much, Donald Pleasance.

Every year I wait to hear one of them say "Boxing Day"....:pac::pac::pac:

I'd say there'd be outright conniptions, a Boards melt down, boots in tellys, childer screaming in terror. The new normal.

Day Lewin · 20-10-2020 05:59PM

NickNickleby wrote: »

I believe it comes from America, where they never learned to pronounce Sam Hain = Thanks very much, Donald Pleasance.

Every year I wait to hear one of them say "Boxing Day"....:pac::pac::pac:

I'd say there'd be outright conniptions, a Boards melt down, boots in tellys, childer screaming in terror. The new normal.

And rightly so!"

jmlad2020 · 20-10-2020 06:11PM

Posh D4 C#nts say this. I'll be egging their neighbourhood this halloween.

20-10-2020 06:14PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is that how they actually pronounce it in Germany though?

Or is it someone in Ireland making it up in order to try and make it sound fancy and everybody imitates them for fear of appearing common?

Yeah it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJn3T80SDk0

It is possible and indeed probable that the Irish pronunciation is as you though, and it's only coincidence that it happens to be correct. No one ever says Por-scheh or Ow-di

EmmetSpiceland · 20-10-2020 06:15PM

Been listening out for it, on calls, all day and have yet to hear anyone call it ‘Hal-o-ween’. I’ll admit, I asked “leading questions” about Level 5 to steer the convo that way but no one said it as strangely as that.

Is this something that’s common in parts of the country where Halloween is not really “celebrated”? You know, where the treats are apples and nuts and the “fireworks” consist of, nothing more than, sparklers.

20-10-2020 06:18PM

NickNickleby wrote: »

I believe it comes from America, where they never learned to pronounce Sam Hain = Thanks very much, Donald Pleasance.

Every year I wait to hear one of them say "Boxing Day"....:pac::pac::pac:

I'd say there'd be outright conniptions, a Boards melt down, boots in tellys, childer screaming in terror. The new normal.

I remember watching Supernatural one time and they were talking about Halloween and a demon named 'Sam Hane', took me a minute to get they meant Samhain

dxhound2005 · 20-10-2020 07:36PM

Next thing it will be

Deck the halls with boughs of holly
Fa la la la la, la la la la (fa la la la la, la la la la)

How should I pronounce Halls?

Kewreeuss · 20-10-2020 08:01PM

It's just laziness.
The eye sees hall and tacks the rest on to it.
Instead of seeing hallow and tacking een on.
Helps if you know what the word means too.
it's a watchamacallit - two words that have run together over time.

Hallows evening, the following day being all saints day.
It's still laziness when we've let it be overtaken by the americanisation of it.
Holloween and pumpkins!!
FFS We've only had pumpkins here in the last 10 years or so.
It's certainly hollow when the kids knock on the door and just hold out the bag for the goodies. They don't bother to even tell a joke.
What's left that's ours? Barm brack and colcannon. Anything else?
Maybe it's different in rural areas, is it?

Another hint for the pronunciation:
The Our Father prayer goes 'hallowed by thy name'.
Same word, same meaning, blessed, holy
.

EmmetSpiceland · 20-10-2020 08:05PM

Kewreeuss wrote: »

It's certainly hollow when the kids knock on the door and just hold out the bag for the goodies. They don't bother to even tell a joke.
What's left that's ours? Barm brack and colcannon. Anything else?
Maybe it's different in rural areas, is it?

Tell a joke? Ah here, you’re not one of those ‘help the Halloween party’ types, are you?

Kids knock in, say ‘trick or treat’, you throw a few sweets in their bags and that’s that. Next.

r93kaey5p2izun · 20-10-2020 08:34PM

I always assumed it was due to not understanding that the root of the word is All Hallows, and therefore incorrectly going with Hall(as in hallway)-oween. Rather than the Dart-Dort, Party-Porty posh vowel thing. Most of those I know who say Holloween are as far from a Dort accent as you can possibly get.

20-10-2020 08:40PM

Kewreeuss wrote: »

It's just laziness.
The eye sees hall and tacks the rest on to it.
Instead of seeing hallow and tacking een on.
Helps if you know what the word means too.
it's a watchamacallit - two words that have run together over time.

Hallows evening, the following day being all saints day.
It's still laziness when we've let it be overtaken by the americanisation of it.
Holloween and pumpkins!!
FFS We've only had pumpkins here in the last 10 years or so.
It's certainly hollow when the kids knock on the door and just hold out the bag for the goodies. They don't bother to even tell a joke.
What's left that's ours? Barm brack and colcannon. Anything else?
Maybe it's different in rural areas, is it?

Another hint for the pronunciation:
The Our Father prayer goes 'hallowed by thy name'.
Same word, same meaning, blessed, holy
.

Am I the only one who read this in Eminem's voice?

dxhound2005 · 20-10-2020 08:44PM

How can it be lazy to pronounce a word differently? Not pronouncing it at all would be laziness.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 20-10-2020 08:44PM

riffmongous wrote: »

But the name actually is Leeedle.. it's a German name

I go French with that, purely to piss people off.

"Nipping out to L'delle"

NickNickleby · 20-10-2020 10:12PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Next thing it will be

Deck the halls with boughs of holly
Fa la la la la, la la la la (fa la la la la, la la la la)

How should I pronounce Halls?

I imagine that would be Hawwwwwls. so,

"Deck the hawwwwwls with boughs of hawwwwwlly"

Pythagorean · 20-10-2020 10:52PM

It's Hallow (holy) 'een (evening). I agree with the OP it is infuriating to hear "Holloween ". the term "trick or treat" is another meaningless piece of claptrap which seems to have come from the USA. And while I'm at it, I hate to hear "Notre Daym" instead of "Dame" as in Dam.
Another prevalent annoyance is "Beaumount" instead of "Beaumont"

dxhound2005 · 20-10-2020 11:26PM

NickNickleby wrote: »

I imagine that would be Hawwwwwls. so,

"Deck the hawwwwwls with boughs of hawwwwwlly"

Bough is not pronounced the same as Cough, Dough, Lough or Rough. Funny old language. Another one is Almond, which has four different standard pronunciations.

21-10-2020 03:17PM

riffmongous wrote: »

Yeah it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJn3T80SDk0

It is possible and indeed probable that the Irish pronunciation is as you though, and it's only coincidence that it happens to be correct. No one ever says Por-scheh or Ow-di

I respectfully withdraw my complaint then. Although I reserve my right never to pronounce it as Leedle (Don Cheadle, Brad Friedel).

Why is it now called HOLLO-een?

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