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Racing Sims General Discussion / Chat Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    Thanks, better start saving so!
    The monitor is a Dell P2219, so max resolution of 1920x1080. So nothing too fancy. Either that, or the TV, which is just a standard HD TV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭Darwin


    No worries :-) a 1650 gtx would reduce your costs by about 120e and will still hit 60fps in most of those games @ 1080p.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know this question comes along all the time but what would people consider the bare minimum to get started? I'm looking at iRacing (like the idea of organised events etc.) so I'm guessing my laptop would be good enough. In terms of wheel and pedals is there a worthwhile setup for under €150 all in?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,964 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    I know this question comes along all the time but what would people consider the bare minimum to get started? I'm looking at iRacing (like the idea of organised events etc.) so I'm guessing my laptop would be good enough. In terms of wheel and pedals is there a worthwhile setup for under €150 all in?

    Your best bet is a used G29, but I'd say the supply of those has dried up since the lockdown.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Im trying to source a G29 currently for AMS2 , no luck whatsoever.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭Titzon Toast


    Set my rig up tonight for the first time in months.
    I jumped in with my old league friends and we ran some races sound classic Monza in some old F1 cars.
    It was so much fun, made me realise how much I miss it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭kellier180


    Do many people play iRacing on here?

    Was thinking of signing up as it seems to be the only online sim racing game I can find with organised leagues. See they have an offer on there site now for one for $6.50 but then on steam it's €10.99 is there any difference where I sign up with?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    While iracing is the online racing king , it is flawed and lacking in the physics and ffb departments compared to more modern sims.
    Race department amongst many others have leagues and club fun clean races for all other sims so dont feel it has to be iracing for online racing.
    ACC is the closest thing to iracing in terms of online racing.

    Remember the monthly sub only gives you bare minimum content, you will need to buy further cars and tracks to run a specific series.
    Then there are seasons where they are always adding new tracks to the roster that you will want to buy to be able to keep racing in a specific series and more for other series, some overlap but in general iracing is seriously expensive.

    Having said all that i done it for years and had a blast,it really is the premiere online racing sim.
    It all just got too time consuming and expensive for my liking personally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭tipp_tipp_tipp


    I'm not a current iracing member but have tried it a few times including earlier this year to try the new AI. I've only ever accessed it straight through the iracing site. Not sure why your seeing a difference in price, maybe check if VAT is included in both.

    I presume that price is a new members offer (probably for 3 months membership???). After this period, you'll be paying the full price which is somewhere around 90 - 100 euro for 1 year. I doubt very much if there's a difference between steam and the iracing site for this price given the whole iracing model is designed to extract as much cash as possible from each user. Someone else may know for sure though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭SmashingPilot


    I'd happily recommend some leagues with active websites/discord. The covers games such as iracing, ACC, gran turismo, project cars 2.
    Currently playing in a PC2 league that runs weekly until October. A lot of the top tier ACC races are streamed too.
    I race over on Actrollvision.com, found it by luck but love it there.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭kellier180


    So signed up for iRacing last night. Only got into a couple of races.

    Seems very well run with races every hour. I'll give it a go for the month anyway and then maybe try ACC I had AC before but didn't really like it that much and found ti hard to set the car right. Probably not helped that I'm using an Xbox one controller. Hoping to get a Logitech g920 in the next week or 2 so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 784 ✭✭✭ctlsleh


    I'd happily recommend some leagues with active websites/discord. The covers games such as iracing, ACC, gran turismo, project cars 2.
    Currently playing in a PC2 league that runs weekly until October. A lot of the top tier ACC races are streamed too.
    I race over on Actrollvision.com, found it by luck but love it there.

    Would be interested in ACC sites, thx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭RonanG86


    kellier180 wrote: »
    So signed up for iRacing last night. Only got into a couple of races.

    Seems very well run with races every hour. I'll give it a go for the month anyway and then maybe try ACC I had AC before but didn't really like it that much and found ti hard to set the car right. Probably not helped that I'm using an Xbox one controller. Hoping to get a Logitech g920 in the next week or 2 so.

    iRacing is not designed with controllers in mind. They do function, and some people claim to be quite competitive with them, but the game's physics are intended to be completely accurate to real life with no deference to anyone not having the full movement range of a steering wheel and ffb to work with.

    If you do decide to persist with it beyond your month, just remember the racing isn't going to be perfect. It's a lot better than pick up races on other sims, but even with the series organisation, SR system and protest facility, you still get people doing stupid things. And stupid is not protestable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭kellier180


    RonanG86 wrote: »
    iRacing is not designed with controllers in mind. They do function, and some people claim to be quite competitive with them, but the game's physics are intended to be completely accurate to real life with no deference to anyone not having the full movement range of a steering wheel and ffb to work with.

    If you do decide to persist with it beyond your month, just remember the racing isn't going to be perfect. It's a lot better than pick up races on other sims, but even with the series organisation, SR system and protest facility, you still get people doing stupid things. And stupid is not protestable.

    Yeah after playing for a few hours I definitely need to get a wheel. See logitech are bringing out a new G923 so hopefully the G920 might go on sale in the next week and i'll get it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    So Project Cars 3 confirmed to being a **** show then:





    All I can say is bring on Assetto Corsa 2!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭RonanG86


    I'm not a sim-physics snob, it's very possible they'll make a perfectly decent game in the Forza / Forza Horizon bracket. I probably won't be bothered with it personally.

    But even then:

    1) It's probably not going to be as good as the current Forza titles.

    2) Why have they made it seemingly look and sound worse than PCARS 2? Is all that arcade overlay after generating a load of spaghetti code so they had to cut the detail so there isn't a performance hit?

    3) What is Project CARS as a series meant to be?
    PCARS 1 was sort of trying to be a sim, but watered the physics down a bit and had wooden, uninformative ffb. Whether this was limitations with the engine or coding, or just trying to widen the net to catch the non-sim crowd, I don't know, but it ended up feeling like an awful middle ground between a full sim and something like Forza. Said a lot for me that they announced PCARS 2 about five minutes after PCARS 1 was released.
    PCARS 2 was much more towards full sim and really only fell down in that the cars were inconsistent. Some had great ffb, some felt awful like in PCARS 1. Also having my car aquaplane and spin out through standing water in a straight line whilst the AI, who I can obliterate in the dry, keep full throttle was annoying.
    PCARS 3 seems to be abandoning any serious attempt at being a sim to capture the Forza crowd.

    So based on that highly confusing history, PCARS 4 could be anything between a full sim and Mario Kart.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Im just delighted Ian Bell and SMS are far from the sim scene now, Reiza are making holy show of them with AMS2.
    I get all my simracing fix from rfactor2,ACC and AMS2 these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭Darwin


    Yes PCars3 is a surprise, a rather unpleasant one at that. I must say I enjoyed PCars2 overall, the career mode was good fun and VR performance was excellent. These days it's ACC, AMS2 and also R3E for me. I wonder if GTR3 by Simbin is ever going to see the light of day or is it another Duke Nukem in the works!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Okay not really a Sim but us simmers need some casual games for a break sometimes right?

    Enter Art Of Rally, from the makers of Absolute Drift:








    Even the engine sounds sound better than on some sims! :pac:


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just looking there and there and the Logitech G29/920 is back down to around 250 quid after being silly money at the start of restrictions and all. Probably won't be pulling the trigger in a hurry but is it still the default recommendation at the lower price end?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Just looking there and there and the Logitech G29/920 is back down to around 250 quid after being silly money at the start of restrictions and all. Probably won't be pulling the trigger in a hurry but is it still the default recommendation at the lower price end?


    Yeah for sure. Unless you live in the states, they're ridiculously priced over there so the thrust masters are what people go for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    So after saving up all year and building a new gaming PC, I take my G25 (lightly used, still in the original box and all) out of the attic where it's spent the last decade since my last gaming pc died. And it won't power up. Stone dead. Ah well. Controller for a while longer until I can afford a new wheel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭tipp_tipp_tipp


    Tough break. I have a logitech DFGT that i bought in 2010! :) Still going though the force feedback is a bit weaker these days. Hoping to get a new gaming pc like yourself sometime early next year. Will pickup a new wheel too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    So after saving up all year and building a new gaming PC, I take my G25 (lightly used, still in the original box and all) out of the attic where it's spent the last decade since my last gaming pc died. And it won't power up. Stone dead. Ah well. Controller for a while longer until I can afford a new wheel.

    Might be a silly question but did you plug in the power supply as well as the Usb cable?

    I've made that mistake before and wondered why it didn't power up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    I did. Both with the original European power lead (with adapter) and an Irish lead. Didn't try with a different socket though, must try that before I pack it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭Darwin


    New update dropped this weekend for AMS 2, some pretty tasty GT3 and GT4 cars. The audio is great for the new cars, especially the 911 GT3 though I think the exterior modelling of the Merc looks a bit off, particularly in comparison to ACC. Overall very happy with this sim, we really are spoiled for choice these days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 784 ✭✭✭ctlsleh


    Doge wrote: »
    Yeah for sure. Unless you live in the states, they're ridiculously priced over there so the thrust masters are what people go for.

    I’m selling my G29 with brake pedal mod if interested

    https://www.adverts.ie/21635611


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    ctlsleh wrote: »
    I’m selling my G29 with brake pedal mod if interested

    https://www.adverts.ie/21635611

    Pop it into the dedicated thread and more people will see it probably.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057442437


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    Is the Thrustmaster T150RS a good alternative to the Logitech G29/G920? it's cheap on Amazon.de at the moment.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 471 ✭✭gizabeer


    Is the Thrustmaster T150RS a good alternative to the Logitech G29/G920? it's cheap on Amazon.de at the moment.

    The Logitech would be a better wheel and worth paying a bit more for , they go down to about €190 with a shifter on black friday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    gizabeer wrote: »
    The Logitech would be a better wheel and worth paying a bit more for , they go down to about €190 with a shifter on black friday

    Not far off! £190 with the shifter today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,779 ✭✭✭✭jayo26


    Yep thats really cool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Anybody ever used a rig like this? https://nextlevelracing.com/products/f-gt-lite/ I want something that can be packed away easily and quickly and it seems to get good reviews. I'll probably get a logitech G29 wheel and pedals to go with it. Just looking to dip my toe into sim racing so I'm not prepared to spend €1000+

    This one also looks decent: https://www.playseatstore.com/playseat-challenge.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    I use the Playseat Challenge, which I find great. takes about 1 min to set/pack up. I use it with a G29. Very comfortable too - spent about 2 hours in it last night.

    I had considered the F-GT Lite, but I'm very restricted on space and the Playseat is slightly narrower.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Yeah I just edited my post there with the playseat, looks good for my needs. I'm not really stuck for space but I don't want something permanent or something that has to be taken apart to be packed away. I found a good comparison video here, no BS



    Do you notice the front leg of the seat lifting slightly when you brake hard? Although I'm not too worried about that as I could easily DIY a fix for it.

    The F-GT Lite actually looks too big for me as I'm only about 5'9" so I'm leaning more towards the playseat. I can get it and the G29 for €500 from Amazon, free postage.... tempting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    Karl's videos were some of the ones I watched when trying to make up my mind. I like his channel.

    I've never noticed the front lifting at all. But I'm 6'2" and at the max weight for the seat (lockdown has not been kind!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭Titzon Toast


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Anybody ever used a rig like this? https://nextlevelracing.com/products/f-gt-lite/ I want something that can be packed away easily and quickly and it seems to get good reviews. I'll probably get a logitech G29 wheel and pedals to go with it. Just looking to dip my toe into sim racing so I'm not prepared to spend €1000+

    This one also looks decent: https://www.playseatstore.com/playseat-challenge.html

    I have a Playseat myself, I needed something I could stash away to keep sticky yogurt hands off my stuff when I'm at work!
    They're a great bit of kit for the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Saw this on Reddit and had to post here!

    I was about to ask if anyone is still active on this forum but then i spotted threads im not subscribed to!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭eyerer


    The forum update has killed a lot of threads i was subscribed to.

    I have my wheel still but haven't used it in over a year, the wheel stand is heavy and awkward to put into place :D

    Still though I bet Forza Horizon 5 would be fun with it



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Was in Zandvort in November and did the SIM racing(€1500 Fanatec wheel).. really enjoyed it so have been looking into getting set up since then.

    Everywhere is sold out of everything. Sure the G920 is available but it's generally the same price as the G923 which is what I was holding out for at a minimum(or the TMX pro).

    I've been looking pretty extensively for two months, Smyth's said they'd have the 923 in January and that updated to June. Currys sent me an email to my alert saying they wouldn't be getting it again..shortages are crazy.

    I put an alert on some site that was on the first page of the Google search earlier this week and got a ping for a 923 on Amazon.

    So that's bought, £300 which ended up being €370.

    Just need to get a rig now, not sure whether to get something like the Next Level/Playseat portable or hold out a bit longer for the metal frame rigs, like an Omega. I don't really want to get a stand, even an upgradeable one as I'd need some sort of seat so would rather just get sorted in full when I buy.

    But finally on the road to getting started now.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    @gilberto_eire Ive been onto GT Omega a few times about a GT Omega Apex stand and they said they will be getting them back in stock but no idea when, they also confirmed regardless of where i was to order from ie their UK,USA or EU store they are all shipped from UK so we probably looking at some import duty.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I didn't get the wheel anyway. I think there was one in stock hence the alert I got. But mid purchasing I got to the barber and finished it after. It still processed the order but the delivery date has been pending since. I reckon someone grabbed it and it takes a certain amount of orders before changing to "unavailable".

    Complete pain as there's plenty of PS versions.

    Same for Thrustmaster, they have some PS stock but Xbox is cleared out.

    Getting a bit fed up of this, been looking across the board for two months and no Xbox stock has updated anywhere but some PS stuff can be got.

    I won't order a stand/rig until the wheel has shipped. 🤕



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Ok i might be able to help you here.

    My brother bought a new Thrustmaster T248 for xmas but used it 2-3 times and is just not into it all.

    He mentioned possibly selling when i spoke to him the other day, do you want me to call him and see if he wants to sell?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If it's the Xbox one sure, it's only available for pre order(for March) for some strange reason when it's in stock for PS.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭joey100


    I've been looking at getting a steering wheel for the xbox too. At the moment it looks like it will be the T248 when it is released, don't fancy paying same money for the older G29.

    T248 is around 350 euro. Is a fanatec DD worth the extra cost? I like the idea that the fanatec base can be used with pc, ps5, and xbox, it's the wheels that are specific to each system (I think this is the case?). Would make it a bit future proof if I did decide to go the PC route at some stage or even if I wanted to go PS5 for GT7. I could use same base and have an xbox and a ps wheel. Is it worth it tho? At the moment I only really play racing games, some more sim, some more between sim and arcade. Will I regret not buying the fanatec over the T248?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Not to worry, thanks anyway. I may just pre order that model as everything else is just "out of stock" without any updates or chance to pre order.

    The G920 is available alright but it's barely any less than the G923 so I said I'd hold out for at least that.

    It's fairly annoying that there's nothing really available in the mid range given there's US stock and PS stock of most things.

    Even the T248, saying it's pre order... Sure it's not even a new release. It's all very disappointing that you can have the money and looking across multiples companies for weeks you can't even buy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Aeghnor


    I saw that you were interested in TMX Pro. You could get TMX from official Thrustmaster shop and i could give you T3PA pedals to make it a pro version. Let me know if that works for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Created an F122 thread here, which will have native VR support and launches July 1st:





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