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New price for VW ID4?

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  • #32
    shanec1928
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,225 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    I wouldn’t be surprised if VW and a few other manufacturers reprice their cars pre taxes to keep the status quo to some extent.
    they havent for seat anyways new ateca is up several thousand depending on the model.


  • #33
    traco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭traco


    My head hurts - I'll wait for the official price list as they will have to work it out at some stage


  • #34
    snowdaze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭snowdaze


    Does anyone know at one week later there is a new price list for ID3 and ID4 cars yet?


  • #35
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,424 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    I'd only guess somewhat based off of this:
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114945857&postcount=145


  • #36
    Silent Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    The ID.3 Tour I ordered yesterday has come down €1,300 ish since the budget.

    I haven't worked out why, just as I haven't worked out how the 77kWh Tour is €1,100 cheaper that the 58kWh Max. The fact that it's only a 4 seater is the only reason I can see. The only other spec change is lack of a glass roof, which I'm happy enough with.


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  • #37
    Irishjg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭Irishjg


    Silent Running wrote: »
    The ID.3 Tour I ordered yesterday has come down €1,300 ish since the budget.

    I haven't worked out why, just as I haven't worked out how the 77kWh Tour is €1,100 cheaper that the 58kWh Max. The fact that it's only a 4 seater is the only reason I can see. The only other spec change is lack of a glass roof, which I'm happy enough with.

    Silent I'm torn between the 77 Tour and the 1st edition ID4 and still can't make up my mind. Please can you advise what was the total price bottom line on your Tour including delivery charges and paint option. Also is the price you have post budget.


  • #38
    Silent Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    Irishjg wrote: »
    Silent I'm torn between the 77 Tour and the 1st edition ID4 and still can't make up my mind. Please can you advise what was the total price bottom line on your Tour including delivery charges and paint option. Also is the price you have post budget.

    I paid €41k on the road. The brochure price was €43,350 on the road. That was at 1/10/20.

    The ID.4 is a good bit bigger and probably better if you can live with a bigger car. My SO likes smaller cars and I don't mind either way, so we went with the ID.3.


  • #39
    Irishjg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭Irishjg


    Silent Running wrote: »
    I paid €41k on the road. The brochure price was €43,350 on the road. That was at 1/10/20.

    The ID.4 is a good bit bigger and probably better if you can live with a bigger car. My SO likes smaller cars and I don't mind either way, so we went with the ID.3.

    Cheers Silent. The extra kit in the "tour" is a major plus and I'm sure overall range will be better VS the ID4 too. I think the price you are paying compared to the 58 "first plus" is amazing considering the larger battery and extra kit you are getting. What is pulling me to the ID4 ? I prefer the looks, extra available space and interior finish for close to the same price. The extra kit in the "tour" drags me back again though. Arghhh IDK !!!


  • #40
    n.d.os
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 978 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    I was just on Volkswagen.ie. I can't believe they are now charging extra for a 204hp ID4 and calling it a Pro Performance. I paid 57k for my ID4 Business in early 2022. The exact same model spec for spec is now 62k. Absolute madness. I know availability is still a problem for car manufacturers but prices are getting out of hand.



  • #41
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    It's annoying, but if people keep paying those prices then that's what they'll sell for


    Carmakers aren't going to drop prices because their customers are grumbling, they'll only start competing when supply starts outstripping demand, which probably won't be in the next 2-3 years

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • #42
    staples7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭staples7


    Ya I bought earlier in the year, I thought the 204hp was basic spec then? My car has gone from 49k to 54kish (Only option on it was the black roof). Hoping to sell as exactly 1 year old.



  • #43
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    The problem with selling now is that you also need to buy a car at current inflated prices

    So while it's nice not to suffer much depreciation, if any, that also cuts both ways when you're buying

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #44
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,290 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848722#Comment_119848722

    How does that work. Below 60k gets a grant.

    above 60k doesn’t.

    so if you paid 57k you should have got a grant



  • #45
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,264 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848722#Comment_119848722

    Pro is the battery size, Performance is the power of the motor. Calling it an ID.4 Pro Performance just means it's an ID.4 with a 150kW motor and a 77kWh battery. The absolute base model is the ID.4 Pure with a 109kW motor and 52kWh battery. I'm not sure if that's been made available in any market yet.

    The interior spec packages then vary on top of the model which is where your Business spec comes in.



  • #46
    n.d.os
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 978 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849754#Comment_119849754

    I may be misunderstanding you here but the Business model now has 154hp and you have to pay more for 204hp. Less than a year ago the 154hp was only on the base model ID4 Life.

    On the topic of people paying more money. I get it. Evs are in demand but dealerships are struggling at the moment. Should it not be fair game? Our second car is three years old and due to be changed in January. I'd be bonkers to buy a new car. The same car is 6 grand more than it was new in 2020. Are others not thinking the same?



  • #47
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    The ID.4 Pure was released here under the City trim. There were a few sold but it isn't available to order at the moment

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #48
    n.d.os
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 978 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849659#Comment_119849659

    I'm guessing if I bought a like-for-like ID4 business now I'd no longer get the grant and be pushed into a Life Model.



  • #49
    handpref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭handpref


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850161#Comment_119850161

    We nearly got caught with this, the 77kw comes with a lower power option of 174hp and 204hp, the pure or 52kw version of the id4 that a few here picked up for nice money is 154hp (possibly slightly less). It’s all been made very confusing for prospective buyers, even harder for those moving from ice cars.

    The life versions are the ones that make the grant with 174 and 204 offerings , the business does not make the grant anymore, we were told 55k was the cut off. It’s very confusing.

    Having had a 174 life dx loaner I was disappointed, lacked power and no reversing camera or front camera, no matrix headlights and front light bar, no fancy drl just a led light across the top of the headlights, halogen front indicators bulbs ..no travel assist ..


    Base level spec vw or a cheaper model y ..



  • #50
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850161#Comment_119850161

    My original plan with the ID.4 was to keep it for 3 years on the PCP and then trade up to either a GTX or an ID.Buzz


    Because it'd be 2024 and EVs would be cheaper by then 😏

    I'm about 18 months into that plan and I'm starting to think my 1st Max is looking like pretty good value for money and I might just hang on to it instead

    Or I sell it and buy a second hand Kia EV6, we'll see how prices are by then

    My wife's Leaf is probably going to need replacing soon, nothing wrong with it, she just complains about the range whenever she's going on a road trip


    Not looking forward to seeing the price tag on whatever car she goes for

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #51
    staples7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭staples7


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850311#Comment_119850311

    Cheaper model y, I pulled the plug last night and ordered the y. Id4 getting the road in feb/march



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  • #52
    handpref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭handpref


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850536#Comment_119850536

    Excellent choice



  • #53
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,264 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850161#Comment_119850161

    It's OK, VW Ireland make it about as clear as mud. There was meant to be a choice of motor, battery, and packs. Instead, they've ended up packaging stuff together to so an ID.4 Business now may contain different equipment to one from 6 months ago.



  • #54
    n.d.os
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 978 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    Yeah, the ID4 Business is unattainable for most people at this point. Glad I got in reasonably early.

    I was thinking about changing our Audi A1 to a Q4 in January. Earlier this year I looked at a 55kw Sport 30 e-tron model. With a few exterior extras, it came in just over 53k. A few months later it was 56k. Now I'm on the website and they've discontinued the small battery at the cheapest Sport model is now just under 59k. Although I decided a few months ago to just hold onto the A1 for a while longer, that's me completely priced out of an electric Audi. Even if I can get one in early 2024, they are too expensive now for what you get. I'm really stumped about what to buy next. This is why I question all of these price hikes. The car makers are pricing the general public out of new cars. Nobody wants a basic model. If we are going to spend over 50k on a car, it needs to be worth it. Glad we got the ID4 early as the family car. It's saved my wife a fortune on running costs. I just wish we could get into another EV for our second car at this point.



  • #55
    n.d.os
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 978 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850536#Comment_119850536

    Do Tesla take trade-in's and offer PCPS at this point? I didn't think I'd like the Model Y, but it's a smart-looking car. It's much bigger in person.



  • #56
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119857771#Comment_119857771

    I guess it depends on what you're looking for, the Q4 is a much bigger car, same size as an ID.4


    If you're looking for something electric with shorter range to use as a second car then I'd go for the cheapest Leaf40 you can find on the second had market

    Unfortunately the spec probably won't be near the A1, although it's not bad to be fair. I'd say my wife's 2016 Leaf has just about all the creature comforts you'd want for a city car

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #57
    cannco253
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119857786#Comment_119857786

    They do but as you’d expect they aren’t great.

    I was given a lowball trade in quote from Tesla for my ID.4 1st with 37km, cost to change was too much so didn’t bother.



  • #58
    n.d.os
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 978 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119858014#Comment_119858014

    If the Q4 had stayed closer to 50k for a basic model, I think I definitely would have considered one, but it looks like 60k is the new benchmark for car makers. There's a point where it just becomes unattainable. I'd like a larger car for my kids. The A1 is a bit tricky with boot space and I'm done with hatchbacks if I'm being honest. Still, the A1 is only 3 years old, it's a lovely car and it's more than adequate as a family runaround.



  • #59
    n.d.os
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 978 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119858514#Comment_119858514

    I never liked Teslas, but I'm really liking the model Y. Also, let's be honest here. the quality of the German stuff isn't what it used to be.



  • #60
    staples7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭staples7


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119857786#Comment_119857786

    I wouldn't even bother asking regards trade in. The garage I bought my ID4 have said they would buy it back (will have about 30k km's on clock by next Feb/March and will be just under the year old). They gave me an excellent trade in for previous car. However if they disappoint I will try privately. And if that doesn't go to plan ill just pull the plug on the Y. Im not changing at any cost, only if it makes sense. Willing to go 5/6k in the trade up


    While im here what do people think an ID4 221 white (Only extra option was black roof) would make 77KWH 204hp. Think they are new at 53/54k at moment. In very good condition and probably still a lengthy wait time...



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  • #61
    joe1303l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119860751#Comment_119860751

    I’m guessing retail for it next March would be close to €45K, private sale or trade price of €43k. Used EV’s such as an ID.4 are getting a bit more plentiful, most main dealers now have a couple of them for sale at silly prices. While the grant is still there most folks will buy new as 211-221 cars are overpriced and some listing at more than they cost new.



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