Sage Barista Express

Alanstrainor · 24-09-2020 11:14am

Klopp wrote: »

I purchased this, now how quick was your delivery

2 weeks I think. Much quicker than would have thought.

dubstepper · 24-09-2020 11:25am

Wondering if anyone has had any issues with the cleaning tablets? I have tried it once or twice and must be doing it wrong. It says to put the tablet into the rubber holder then put that into the filter. When I put on the clean cycle no water comes out as the rubber holder is blocking it?? I have to be doing something wrong but not sure what?!

DaveyDave · 24-09-2020 11:27am

dubstepper wrote: »

Wondering if anyone has had any issues with the cleaning tablets? I have tried it once or twice and must be doing it wrong. It says to put the tablet into the rubber holder then put that into the filter. When I put on the clean cycle no water comes out as the rubber holder is blocking it?? I have to be doing something wrong but not sure what?!

They didn't update the instructions from a few years ago when they changed the cleaning disc. There's no hole in it anymore so very little water will drip through now. It's normal. The tablet doesn't dissolve much so I usually do 2-3 cycles and then flush with water without the tablet to make sure it's clear.

dubstepper · 24-09-2020 11:47am

DaveyDave wrote: »

They didn't update the instructions from a few years ago when they changed the cleaning disc. There's no hole in it anymore so very little water will drip through now. It's normal. The tablet doesn't dissolve much so I usually do 2-3 cycles and then flush with water without the tablet to make sure it's clear.

Thanks Davey - I felt like an idiot

Damo 2k9 · 24-09-2020 5:35pm

Yep as Davey has said they never updated instructions.

Someone more experience may be able to correct me, but I think it's known as a backflush. The water won't go through the portafilter but will instead be flushed back through the system.

flipflophead22 · 29-09-2020 3:31pm

Tempted to wait and see if this drops in price for black friday.

keith_d99 · 29-09-2020 3:44pm

DaveyDave wrote: »

They didn't update the instructions from a few years ago when they changed the cleaning disc. There's no hole in it anymore so very little water will drip through now. It's normal. The tablet doesn't dissolve much so I usually do 2-3 cycles and then flush with water without the tablet to make sure it's clear.

Yep just did first clean ... impressive process in fairness.
Mine was the same ... did 3 cycles before the tablet was fully dissolved.

pc7 · 30-09-2020 2:34pm

Oh I still can't decide what to do, the Sage just sounds like hard work! I am torn now between Delonghi or the new Krups (self cleaning/makes cappucino's push button). My budget keeps getting bigger as I just can't decide!

flipflophead22 · 30-09-2020 3:03pm

lol im unsure too, just want something that makes great coffee in least amount of time.

pc7 · 30-09-2020 3:12pm

flipflophead22 wrote: »

lol im unsure too, just want something that makes great coffee in least amount of time.

I'm looking at this one https://www.currys.ie/ieen/household-appliances/small-kitchen-appliances/coffee-machines-and-accessories/coffee-machines/delonghi-autentica-cappuccino-etam29-660-sb-bean-to-cup-coffee-machine-silver-10148510-pdt.html and there is a krups one that cleans itself

NATLOR · 30-09-2020 3:55pm

pc7 wrote: »

I'm looking at this one https://www.currys.ie/ieen/household-appliances/small-kitchen-appliances/coffee-machines-and-accessories/coffee-machines/delonghi-autentica-cappuccino-etam29-660-sb-bean-to-cup-coffee-machine-silver-10148510-pdt.html and there is a krups one that cleans itself

A lot cheaper here

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00MOIE1E2?tag=haggle-web-de-21&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1&language=en_GB

DaveyDave · 30-09-2020 4:14pm

I make more coffee with my Barista Express then I did with my French press. I'm not a morning person and would generally just get dressed and head straight to work but I'll happily make a cappuccino every morning. Even after a 12 hour shift when I'm exhausted I don't mind making one whereas with the press I wouldn't be arsed.

I think the hands on approach with the Sage makes it easier and doesn't feel as long as sitting around waiting for the press to be ready. It quickly becomes part of your routine. In saying that the steam isn't quick with the Barista Express so it's worth checking out if the other machines are any quicker.

The GF had a Nespresso machine, which is as easy as it gets, and she refuses to go back from the Sage. The coffee is worth the extra bit of effort.

pc7 · 30-09-2020 4:16pm

Thank you Natlor, that sealed it for me its ordered!

el Fenomeno · 01-10-2020 7:07pm

I'm looking to get a Sage Barista Pro (the Sea Salt colour) for my partner.

I know absolutely nothing about coffee but I know she's wanted this model.

Harvey Norman have it for 769. Is that the best price around? Would there be any deals on Amazon Prime day, or am I better waiting for black Friday?

NATLOR · 01-10-2020 8:27pm

The Barista express is on at €485 including delivery at Amazon Italy

https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B07B2X1VXZ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H&psc=1

Seriously tempted at that price. have a Delonghi bean to cup for over 4 years thats been great and used constantly but think I'm due an upgrade

raytaxi · 01-10-2020 11:52pm

el Fenomeno wrote: »

I'm looking to get a Sage Barista Pro (the Sea Salt colour) for my partner.

I know absolutely nothing about coffee but I know she's wanted this model.

Harvey Norman have it for 769. Is that the best price around? Would there be any deals on Amazon Prime day, or am I better waiting for black Friday?

Try https://shop.3fe.com/product/sage-barista-pro-espresso-machine they were doing free training course with machine not sure if they still are.

mad m · 02-10-2020 9:05am

NATLOR wrote: »

The Barista express is on at €485 including delivery at Amazon Italy

https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B07B2X1VXZ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H&psc=1

Seriously tempted at that price. have a Delonghi bean to cup for over 4 years thats been great and used constantly but think I'm due an upgrade

Not anymore. Seriously jumped in price now

NATLOR · 02-10-2020 9:20am

mad m wrote:

Not anymore. Seriously jumped in price now

Typical! Will keep an eye though, it's been under 500 before hopefully will drop again

dubstepper · 02-10-2020 4:44pm

el Fenomeno wrote: »

I'm looking to get a Sage Barista Pro (the Sea Salt colour) for my partner.

I know absolutely nothing about coffee but I know she's wanted this model.

Harvey Norman have it for 769. Is that the best price around? Would there be any deals on Amazon Prime day, or am I better waiting for black Friday?

I would never buy this in Harvey Norman, too expensive. Hold fire for a month or two. It seems like covid has seriously increased the cost of these.

zweton · 08-10-2020 10:44am

pc7 wrote: »

Thank you Natlor, that sealed it for me its ordered!

Let us know what you think.

IrishHomer · 08-10-2020 11:34am

Amazon are having an annual sale on 13th I'm going watch out for sage machines reduced

TheUnderfaker · 08-10-2020 11:56am

I got this machine for £340 on Amazon in July '19... Shocked to see what it costs now!!!

In saying that, I couldn't be without one now. I love it to bits. If it went boom in the morning I'd have a huge dilemma on my hands

EDIT: Just checked camelx3 and it doesn't show it ever costing as low as this. Checked my order history and it was actually £420, but had one of those "click this button to apply promotion" things on there which gave me an extra £80 off.

zweton · 08-10-2020 12:03pm

TheUnderfaker wrote: »

I got this machine for £340 on Amazon in July '19... Shocked to see what it costs now!!!

In saying that, I couldn't be without one now. I love it to bits. If it went boom in the morning I'd have a huge dilemma on my hands

Damn thats a good price, can we assume lockdown is the only reason why its expensive now.

pc7 · 08-10-2020 12:44pm

zweton wrote: »

Let us know what you think.

Will do, its arrived, looks very smart, haven't had a chance to set it up yet. Will report back

Colonel Claptrap · 08-10-2020 12:49pm

Having issues with the hot water tap. When you turn the knob it's supposed to pour an exact Americano quantity then cut off.

Every now and again it doesn't cut off and just keeps pouring.

Similarly I have the 2 shot button programmed for a set number of seconds but on occasion it just keeps pouring until I stop it manually.

Has anyone experienced problems like this before?

Klopp · 08-10-2020 7:22pm

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

Having issues with the hot water tap. When you turn the knob it's supposed to pour an exact Americano quantity then cut off.

Every now and again it doesn't cut off and just keeps pouring.

Similarly I have the 2 shot button programmed for a set number of seconds but on occasion it just keeps pouring until I stop it manually.

Has anyone experienced problems like this before?

My only advise if you haven't tried already is to reset the programming and reprogram again.

TheUnderfaker · 09-10-2020 10:02am

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

Having issues with the hot water tap. When you turn the knob it's supposed to pour an exact Americano quantity then cut off.

Every now and again it doesn't cut off and just keeps pouring.

Similarly I have the 2 shot button programmed for a set number of seconds but on occasion it just keeps pouring until I stop it manually.

Has anyone experienced problems like this before?

Mine doesn't cut off either.... And as far as I know it never has. Didn't even know this was meant to happen!

Damo 2k9 · 10-10-2020 9:29am

TheUnderfaker wrote: »

Mine doesn't cut off either.... And as far as I know it never has. Didn't even know this was meant to happen!

Same here!

pc7 · 11-10-2020 10:27am

zweton wrote: »

Let us know what you think.

Very very happy with it, the foam for the cappuccino is perfect. Where I get my cappuccino I can tell which staff made it by the foam and this is doing it exactly how I like it. Will take a bit of tweaking to figure out what settings are best for taste (strong, extra strong etc) and how much foam/froth. You can personalize it so that’ll be great as Mr PC7 doesn’t like coffee too milky. It has an auto function so once I find the way I like it can set it to make it automatically daily. Some nice features in that can use bean and ground.
Only downside I can see it is long, so may not work well in every kitchen, will depend on work tops.

Lombardo123 · 11-10-2020 3:31pm

TheUnderfaker wrote: »

Mine doesn't cut off either.... And as far as I know it never has. Didn't even know this was meant to happen!

I'm the same. Is there any evidence this is the case? I don't even see how you'd program that as each person would like different amounts of water too.

flipflophead22 · 11-10-2020 10:00pm

pc7 wrote: »

Very very happy with it, the foam for the cappuccino is perfect. Where I get my cappuccino I can tell which staff made it by the foam and this is doing it exactly how I like it. Will take a bit of tweaking to figure out what settings are best for taste (strong, extra strong etc) and how much foam/froth. You can personalize it so that’ll be great as Mr PC7 doesn’t like coffee too milky. It has an auto function so once I find the way I like it can set it to make it automatically daily. Some nice features in that can use bean and ground.
Only downside I can see it is long, so may not work well in every kitchen, will depend on work tops.

nice, what beans did you use first off?

flipflophead22 · 11-10-2020 11:30pm

pc7 wrote: »

Very very happy with it, the foam for the cappuccino is perfect. Where I get my cappuccino I can tell which staff made it by the foam and this is doing it exactly how I like it. Will take a bit of tweaking to figure out what settings are best for taste (strong, extra strong etc) and how much foam/froth. You can personalize it so that’ll be great as Mr PC7 doesn’t like coffee too milky. It has an auto function so once I find the way I like it can set it to make it automatically daily. Some nice features in that can use bean and ground.
Only downside I can see it is long, so may not work well in every kitchen, will depend on work tops.

what price did you pay for yours ? Its 485 at the moment is this good?

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00MOIE1E2?tag=haggle-web-de-21&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1&language=en_GB#

pc7 · 12-10-2020 7:05am

flipflophead22 wrote: »

nice, what beans did you use first off?

Just using arabica I picked up in Aldi as didn’t want to waste loads of good beans started out (youve to run 4/5 cups first). Will look for some nice ones now, I have some Lazazza ready.

pc7 · 12-10-2020 7:23am

flipflophead22 wrote: »

what price did you pay for yours ? Its 485 at the moment is this good?

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00MOIE1E2?tag=haggle-web-de-21&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1&language=en_GB#

Yeah think with delivery it was €513

mad m · 13-10-2020 7:51am

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sage-SES875BKS-Barista-Express-Machine/dp/B072Q22S3J/ref=sr_1_1_mod_primary_lightning_deal?dchild=1&keywords=Sage+barista+pro&psr=PDAY&qid=1602571811&s=prime-day&sbo=Tc8eqSFhUl4VwMzbE4fw%2Fw%3D%3D&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&sr=1-1

€440 with today’s exchange rate.

mossie · 13-10-2020 11:53am

mad m wrote: »

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sage-SES875BKS-Barista-Express-Machine/dp/B072Q22S3J/ref=sr_1_1_mod_primary_lightning_deal?dchild=1&keywords=Sage+barista+pro&psr=PDAY&qid=1602571811&s=prime-day&sbo=Tc8eqSFhUl4VwMzbE4fw%2Fw%3D%3D&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&sr=1-1

€440 with today’s exchange rate.

Sound like a good deal. I had been looking at getting a Sage Bambino Plus and Sage Grinder Pro but I wonder if this would be a better option for me at around €100 cheaper.

Benny Cake · 13-10-2020 7:24pm

Stupid question time .... To make an americano do you need to boil water separately and add an espresso shot to the cup of boiled water? Or can the machine make one for you?

mad m · 13-10-2020 8:01pm

mossie wrote: »

Sound like a good deal. I had been looking at getting a Sage Bambino Plus and Sage Grinder Pro but I wonder if this would be a better option for me at around €100 cheaper.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/browse.html?ref%5F=UK%5FIncent%5FASV%5FDP%5FAll%5FILM-XGL%5FPD20&node=21011002031&sa-no-redirect=1&pldnSite=1

Extra £10 off as well if you get voucher

Gooey Looey · 13-10-2020 8:01pm

Benny Cake wrote: »

Stupid question time .... To make an americano do you need to boil water separately and add an espresso shot to the cup of boiled water? Or can the machine make one for you?

The frothing wand can fill your cup with water for Americano

mad m · 13-10-2020 8:04pm

Lads if you had a choice This sage express or the barista pro?

dubstepper · 14-10-2020 10:09am

I can't see a huge difference between the two except for the screen. I have the express and used the Barista Oracle in an office. The difference at that price is the automatic tamping which is a very good feature but you are getting up to very expensive there. Even at that difference, which is the guts of 1k, it was really only the tamping, and perhaps a better frother.

mad m · 14-10-2020 3:02pm

dubstepper wrote: »

I can't see a huge difference between the two except for the screen. I have the express and used the Barista Oracle in an office. The difference at that price is the automatic tamping which is a very good feature but you are getting up to very expensive there. Even at that difference, which is the guts of 1k, it was really only the tamping, and perhaps a better frother.

The sage was on offer for 440. Seems to be expired

Silver-Tiger · 15-10-2020 8:00am

Got one before it expired on Tuesday. Hopefully it arrives by next Tuesday.

People were mentioning good youtube videos. Can you stick them up if you get a chance. I'll be all about americanos but good to learn more.

keith_d99 · 15-10-2020 9:42pm

Hi all - I am having some dialling in issues

I have changed my beans (Nota espresso bean from Baillies) and am now having to change my grind settings (nothing unusual there)

My grind setting was at 9 ... and my first was trickling out.
Pressure dial all the way to the right

I’ve had to change my setting to 15 now (and lower my grind amount as a result) to get a decent extraction time.

The settings seem all wrong? And the grind very course.

Shot looks ok ... latte doesn’t taste as dark as previous bean (Ponaire European). Not sure if it’s the bean or my technique

Any tips to dial this bean in properly?

ED E · 18-10-2020 8:24pm

Silver-Tiger wrote: »

Got one before it expired on Tuesday. Hopefully it arrives by next Tuesday.

People were mentioning good youtube videos. Can you stick them up if you get a chance. I'll be all about americanos but good to learn more.

Mine arrived via DPD Friday.

Missed the tamp holder for the first 12hrs

adrian522 · 18-10-2020 8:44pm

keith_d99 wrote: »

Hi all - I am having some dialling in issues

I have changed my beans (Nota espresso bean from Baillies) and am now having to change my grind settings (nothing unusual there)

My grind setting was at 9 ... and my first was trickling out.
Pressure dial all the way to the right

I’ve had to change my setting to 15 now (and lower my grind amount as a result) to get a decent extraction time.

The settings seem all wrong? And the grind very course.

Shot looks ok ... latte doesn’t taste as dark as previous bean (Ponaire European). Not sure if it’s the bean or my technique

Any tips to dial this bean in properly?

is 15 coraser or finer than 9 on your machine?

If the shot is just trckling out you need to grind coarser.

Also I'd only change one thing, either adjust the grind or adjust the dose.

You should aim for 2:1 ratio for your espresso in 25-30 seconds. Are you getting that with your current settings?

Silver-Tiger · 19-10-2020 10:36am

ED E wrote: »

Mine arrived via DPD Friday.

Missed the tamp holder for the first 12hrs

Mine is out for delivery this morning. Excited!

keith_d99 · 19-10-2020 1:08pm

adrian522 wrote: »

is 15 coraser or finer than 9 on your machine?

If the shot is just trckling out you need to grind coarser.

Also I'd only change one thing, either adjust the grind or adjust the dose.

You should aim for 2:1 ratio for your espresso in 25-30 seconds. Are you getting that with your current settings?

15 is Coarser yep ... 16 is the highest!

Have it up to 15 now ... get getting an extraction time of just over 25 seconds.
The dose seems just right also. Used that skimming tool to ensure I wasn't overfilling the portafilter.

Tasting ok ... just a rather bland bean I think. :rolleyes:

adrian522 · 19-10-2020 1:11pm

Yeah, possibly. sounds like the bean but I would have thought you should be grinding more towards the fine end for espresso. You don't have much scope for adjustments if you are on 15 and can only go to 16.

keith_d99 · 19-10-2020 1:32pm

adrian522 wrote: »

Yeah, possibly. sounds like the bean but I would have thought you should be grinding more towards the fine end for espresso. You don't have much scope for adjustments if you are on 15 and can only go to 16.

Yeah tried 8/9 first (the setting from the last bean I used) ....
I could hear the grinder having to work more (if that makes sense) ... sounded much different.

And when I pulled a shot it barely trickled out.

Sage Barista Express

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