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Republic of Ireland Team Talk/News/Rumours 2020/2021 - see Mod Note in OP [18/11/20]

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  • #2732
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,318 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Beaten by the Italian u20's, good lord just as well we didn't play their first team.

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  • #2733
    ~Rebel~
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,221 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Mantis Toboggan wrote: »
    Beaten by the Italian u20's, good lord just as well we didn't play their first team.

    Yes, though to be fair, they did have Cutrone, Sottil, Tonali, and Ricci as well.

    Sottil scored their first and assisted the second, Cutrone scored the second, and Tonali was running the show in midfield. The dangermen were demonstrably their parachuted in lads. Those main 3 in particular are also all Serie A regulars, and both Tonali and Cutrone have senior caps.

    Given how many of our own first choice U-21 players were unavailable due to injury or Senior callups, it was actually reasonably even... if anything they had more of their key men than we did.

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  • #2734
    johnnyryan89
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    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    Yes, though to be fair, they did have Cutrone, Sottil, Tonali, and Ricci as well.

    Sottil scored their first and assisted the second, Cutrone scored the second, and Tonali was running the show in midfield. The dangermen were demonstrably their parachuted in lads. Those main 3 in particular are also all Serie A regulars, and both Tonali and Cutrone have senior caps.

    Yup, and we were also missing a few starting players, but sure some Irish fans just wanna moan for the sake of moaning.


  • #2735
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,318 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    Hahaha we were missing half a team

    Its no surprise who liked your post either.

    We played well I thought, Italians were a tad better but good performance and all to play for

    Didn't see any of it just knew it was their second team and thought we'd give them a game.

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  • #2736
    ~Rebel~
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    Mantis Toboggan wrote: »
    Didn't see any of it just knew it was their second team and thought we'd give them a game.

    Alas our 11 was more a 'second team' than theirs. They still had their key U-21 players playing (creating and scoring their goals, and running midfield), while we were missing pretty much all of ours.

    Shame, our first choice U-21's against theirs would have been a cracker I think.

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  • #2737
    Mantis Toboggan
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    People very touchy in here tonight, wasn't even having a go!

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  • #2738
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,764 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    sugarman wrote: »
    You clearly were.

    Tbf the poster has said they were not.

    The information about the teams as provided in your previous response was very interesting though.


  • #2739
    Michelle Some Toupee
    Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Michelle Some Toupee


    DM_7 wrote: »
    Tbf the poster has said they were not.

    The information about the teams as provided in your previous response was very interesting though.

    Tbf I'm not sure how it can be taken as anything but


  • #2740
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,764 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Lachlan Some Shuffleboard wrote: »
    Tbf I'm not sure how it can be taken as anything but

    Just trying to get it back to soccer tbh.

    I found it very interesting how many senior games the under 20 Italy team had in certain positions. Big advantage and example of strength of the side.


  • #2741
    Ferris_Bueller
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    McCarthy ruled out with an injury. Say that must be Molumby starting anyway. Then two of Hendrick, Hourihane and Cullen in there if Jack Byrne is also out? Knight might even get some game time.


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  • #2742
    dr.kenneth noisewater
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    Ferris_Bueller wrote:
    McCarthy ruled out with an injury. Say that must be Molumby starting anyway. Then two of Hendrick, Hourihane and Cullen in there if Jack Byrne is also out? Knight might even get some game time.


    Wasnt Byrne the 2nd positive Covid case? Or was that rumours?


  • #2743
    Ferris_Bueller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭Ferris_Bueller


    dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »
    Wasnt Byrne the 2nd positive Covid case? Or was that rumours?

    Nothing confirmed but that is why I'm expecting him to be out if he is indeed the player with the positive test.


  • #2744
    Brock Turnpike
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    dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »
    Wasnt Byrne the 2nd positive Covid case? Or was that rumours?

    Well it wasn't confirmed by the FAI who the player was, not was it reported anywhere. It's only social media rumours that it was Byrne.


  • #2745
    Wuff Wuff
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Wuff Wuff


    sugarman wrote: »
    Just rumors. We wont know for sure until the team sheet is out tomorrow evening but I didnt spot him among the players training in Finland tonight.

    Heard myself he's in isolation for 10 days and won't be in the Rovers squad friday either


  • #2746
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Wuff Wuff wrote: »
    Heard myself he's in isolation for 10 days and won't be in the Rovers squad friday either

    Ah jaysus.


  • #2747
    NewMan1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭NewMan1982


    I heard Kenny gave Byrne covid so he wouldn’t have to play him :)


  • #2748
    [Deleted User]
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    Haven't seen it posted here and not sure is it legit.

    But some fellas was on Off the Ball on Monday(Quinn from some newspaper) and he kept saying that Ireland were in pot 3 for the WC after the last few games, dropped from pot 2 but if they win the Finland game we're back to pot 2.
    Similarly Finland could move to pot 2 with a win.

    Not sure if these were the final games to determine that. I took it they were.


  • #2749
    Chalk McHugh
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    gilberto_eire wrote: »
    Haven't seen it posted here and not sure is it legit.

    But some fellas was on Off the Ball on Monday(Quinn from some newspaper) and he kept saying that Ireland were in pot 3 for the WC after the last few games, dropped from pot 2 but if they win the Finland game we're back to pot 2.
    Similarly Finland could move to pot 2 with a win.

    Not sure if these were the final games to determine that. I took it they were.

    Yea was listening to that myself and didn't 100% catch what he meant. I was thinking it might have been whoever finishes last in our Nations League group might go into Pot 3. So i was hoping that would mean Bulgaria as their bottom and still have to come to Dublin. Could be wrong though.


  • #2750
    NIMAN
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    The more I see that Shane Long missed header the other day, the worse it gets.

    When was the last time he scored a competitive goal for club or country?


  • #2751
    Pawwed Rig
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    There are consistent calls for him to play but personally I have seen nothing from him for years. He is happy bench warming at Southampton so does not seem too bothered.
    I remember a time where players would move clubs if not getting game time in case they fell down the international pecking order. Seems some don't really take that into consideration anymore.


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  • #2752
    Kerrydude1981
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    NIMAN wrote: »
    The more I see that Shane Long missed header the other day, the worse it gets.

    When was the last time he scored a competitive goal for club or country?

    I think he scored at least once last season for Southampton, broke a long run without a goal for them

    Wiki says he scored twice in the PL last season and the last time he scored for us was 2016 against Moldova


  • #2753
    noodler
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    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    There are consistent calls for him to play but personally I have seen nothing from him for years. He is happy bench warming at Southampton so does not seem too bothered.
    I remember a time where players would move clubs if not getting game time in case they fell down the international pecking order. Seems some don't really take that into consideration anymore.

    Got a serious run of games for Southampton last season tbf. Score a few and created a few more.


  • #2754
    Wuff Wuff
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Wuff Wuff


    Kerrydude1981 wrote: »
    I think he scored at least once last season for Southampton, broke a long run without a goal for them

    Wiki says he scored twice in the PL last season and the last time he scored for us was 2016 against Moldova

    His competetive goal rate for ireland isnt great its like 5 in 46 games, a 1 in 9 striker. (36/8 in friendlies)

    one thing about Robbie Keane was he was nearly always getting goals, around 50 or so of his were in competetive games. Would love a striker like that in the squad now (as long as hes sat 2 metres apart in his correct seat)


  • #2755
    DM_7
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    Early weeknight kick off for today's game of 5pm.

    Match thread here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058121930


  • #2756
    Brock Turnpike
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    Byrne is out tonight as per Dan McDonnell piece in the Indo today.


  • #2757
    Kingp35
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    gilberto_eire wrote: »
    Haven't seen it posted here and not sure is it legit.

    But some fellas was on Off the Ball on Monday(Quinn from some newspaper) and he kept saying that Ireland were in pot 3 for the WC after the last few games, dropped from pot 2 but if they win the Finland game we're back to pot 2.
    Similarly Finland could move to pot 2 with a win.

    Not sure if these were the final games to determine that. I took it they were.

    This is why Nations League games are important. I've said it before but it annoys me when posters say that these games are glorified friendlies. They are far from it. The Nations League offered a clear path to a playoff spot for the 2022 World Cup. They are also important games for our seeding for the World Cup groups which are based on FIFA World Ranking. Nations League games offer more seeding points than friendlies. The difference between Pot 2 and Pot 3 is potentially huge.

    Our poor results so far have potentially made it much more difficult to qualify for the World Cup when it was already going to be a very tough ask.


  • #2758
    johnnyryan89
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    But they are glorified friendlies, Uefa literally replaced friendly games with these games. Next they'll probably look to replace friendlies before tournaments with a mini pre tournament tournament.

    As for tonight's game I hope Knight and O'Shea get a start after being pulled from yesterday's game with the U21s.


  • #2759
    Kingp35
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    johnnyryan89 wrote: »
    But they are glorified friendlies, Uefa literally replaced friendly games with these games. Next they'll probably look to replace friendlies before tournaments with a mini pre tournament tournament.

    Can you name me any set of friendlies that offered a playoff spot for the World Cup?


  • #2760
    Arthur Daley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,878 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Nations league games don't count as a full cap as far as I recall. So the message FIFA/UEFA send out is that they are lesser matches. They can't have it both ways.

    E.g. for future Declan Rice type scenarios.


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  • #2761
    ~Rebel~
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    Arthur Daley wrote: »
    Nations league games don't count as a full cap as far as I recall. So the message FIFA/UEFA send out is that they are lesser matches. They can't have it both ways.

    E.g. for future Declan Rice type scenarios.

    Can you give a source on that? I don’t think it’s true, and I can’t find anything that backs it up. Players have certainly been called cap-tied after just one Nations League game anyway, like Areola with France.

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