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    #182
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    I watched a few minutes of that. It's a nonsense opinion piece from a trash right-wing news station.

    Every single time there is any global meeting on anything, all the crazies and conspiracy theorists and fringe TV pundits go batshiat over it, nothing happens. They wait for the next one, then go batshiat over that. Rinse, repeat. The record never changes, the NWO never takes over, the UN never takes over, totalitarian facists don't take over.

    Don't you think it's a bit different this time round considering how long Schwab has been planning his reset? He wrote a book about it and another book about his 4th Industrial Revolution. He's very serious about his reset. They've even started advertising it at bus stops. They're going all out with their reset.


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    #183
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    someone dug up an Eir cable around here in January,no ATMs , no card scanners at the shop till, out for around 4 hours, keeping some cash on you has its merits

    Cash is very important.


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    #184
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    https://www.spectator.com.au/2020/10/dangerous-elites-planning-the-great-reset/

    An article in the Spectator Australia


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    #185
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Don't you think it's a bit different this time round

    No.


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    #186
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    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Don't you think it's a bit different this time round considering how long Schwab has been planning his reset? He wrote a book about it and another book about his 4th Industrial Revolution. He's very serious about his reset. They've even started advertising it at bus stops. They're going all out with their reset.

    So, as you've already been told, the handful of signs at some bus stops in England have nothing to do with the WEF. You've transformed it into a nefarious plot. I'm browsing the WEF right now, they have detailed info on what they're looking into in terms of how the economic world is likely to change. Includes addressing energy, air pollution, systemic racism, investing in emerging markets, improving infrastructure. Care to point out some of the horrific propositions on their website? Rather than going to alternative sources..


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    #187
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So, as you've already been told, the handful of signs at some bus stops in England have nothing to do with the WEF. You've transformed it into a nefarious plot. I'm browsing the WEF right now, they have detailed info on what they're looking into in terms of how the economic world is likely to change. Includes addressing energy, air pollution, systemic racism, investing in emerging markets, improving infrastructure. Care to point out some of the horrific propositions on their website? Rather than going to alternative sources..

    But I don't understand how there are two great resets. What's the other great reset about? The one being advertised at bus stops.

    Listen to Schwab and he talks about technology redefining what it means to be human, about implantable chips. There's a video on YouTube that analyses the Great Reset. The picture it paints is very scary.


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    #188
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    Dionaibh wrote: »
    But I don't understand how there are two great resets. What's the other great reset about? The one being advertised at bus stops.

    Listen to Schwab and he talks about technology redefining what it means to be human, about implantable chips. There's a video on YouTube that analyses the Great Reset. The picture it paints is very scary.

    It's a random grassroots group focused on the environment so they're piggybacking on the term more than anything. You still haven't linked to any WEF content but are instead referencing things with zero context... FYI, technology has always redefined humanity, that's been the case since creating fire..


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    #189
    growleaves
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    King Mob wrote: »
    Sorry, I thought the fear was they they were going to force everyone to use health passports and get vaccinations?

    Have you given up on this belief now you've accepted it's silly and you can't defend it?

    There are people in the covid forum demanding that people should have to produce vaccination certificates before they enter pubs, restaurants etc.

    The appetite for mass surveillance is there among many.


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    #190
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    So, as you've already been told, the handful of signs at some bus stops in England have nothing to do with the WEF. You've transformed it into a nefarious plot. I'm browsing the WEF right now, they have detailed info on what they're looking into in terms of how the economic world is likely to change. Includes addressing energy, air pollution, systemic racism, investing in emerging markets, improving infrastructure. Care to point out some of the horrific propositions on their website? Rather than going to alternative sources..

    A somewhat unusual and strange very small selecton of niche topics to mention.
    To quote the organiser of The Great Reset:
    The world must act jointly and swiftly to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies, from education to social contracts and working conditions. Every country, from the United States to China, must participate, and every industry, from oil and gas to tech, must be transformed. In short, we need a “Great Reset”

    Yes it's an economic 'grand' reset, but it's also a reset by association of 'society' as a whole (in every aspect), indeed nearly every fassett of daily life from education, healthcare, transport, welfare, public services and so on.

    It's also the firing pistol of the great new 4th Industrial Reveloution (Industry 4.0), we are now entering a (post)digital era.


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    #191
    growleaves
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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    There's nothing wrong with a health passport.

    Are posters going to bounce between saying "x will never happen" and "x is happening but it doesn't matter"?

    Lots of people have no use for freedom and privacy and don't understand why other people want it.


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    #192
    Dionaibh
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's a random grassroots group focused on the environment so they're piggybacking on the term more than anything. You still haven't linked to any WEF content but are instead referencing things with zero context... FYI, technology has always redefined humanity, that's been the case since creating fire..

    This is the video I was referring to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6pzXrEBqR0

    But Schwab is talking about transhumanism and microchips.

    From the article in The Spectator Australia I posted a link to:

    "Stripped of the propaganda, the Great Reset is not new. It’s another fascist experiment being pushed by controlling elitists. Economic growth and social mobility must be subordinate to the collective. Connections will be institutionalised and privilege perpetuated."


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    #193
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    Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »
    A somewhat unusual and strange very small selecton of niche topics to mention.
    To quote the organiser of The Great Reset:



    Yes it's an economic 'grand' reset, but it's also a reset by association of 'society' as a whole (in every aspect), indeed nearly every fassett of daily life from education, healthcare, transport, welfare, public services and so on.

    It's also the firing pistol of the great new 4th Industrial Reveloution (Industry 4.0), we are now entering a (post)digital era.

    And still you haven't demonstrated anything nefarious about it.


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    #194
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    growleaves wrote: »
    Are posters going to bounce between saying "x will never happen" and "x is happening but it doesn't matter"?

    Lots of people have no use for freedom and privacy and don't understand why other people want it.

    It's quite extraordinary how health passports don't bother people.


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    #195
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    Dionaibh wrote: »
    It's quite extraordinary how health passports don't bother people.

    So couple of things, when a vaccine for covid is readily available, it's reasonable for countries to reject unvaccinated people traveling to their country. In the meantime, it's also reasonable to reject people who haven't tested negative. The likes of commonpass simply standardise documentation of that for travel.


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    #196
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    And still you haven't demonstrated anything nefarious about it.
    If one had a coin for everytime some specific 'types' here, lazily use the word 'nefarious' (daily!) lol.
    Show where I claimed there was something 'nefarious'.

    What The Great Reset is in essence the cramming of 15yrs worth of change into approx 1.5yrs.
    Now (sudden, wholescale) change, can be (both) good and bad.

    The only thing for certian is that the imposition of systemic change of this scope, will in turn have equally wholescale (irreversable) effects on populations (good and bad).

    Time is the single biggest risk factor here.
    Natural and gradual changes of this scale, usually iron out any risks or concerns through consideration and reasoned debate (common in democracy).

    This will not be the case here.
    Hence there are heightened immediate risks of unknown or wayward effects, by the few (undemocratically) will imposing their will on the many, many.


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    #197
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »
    If one had a coin for everytime some specific 'types' here, lazily use the word 'nefarious' (daily!) lol.
    Show where I claimed there was something 'nefarious'.

    What The Great Reset is in essence the cramming of 15yrs worth of change into approx 1.5yrs.
    Now (sudden, wholescale) change, can be (both) good and bad.

    The only thing for certian is that the imposition of systemic change of this scope, will in turn have equally wholescale (irreversable) effects on populations (good and bad).

    Time is the single biggest risk factor here.
    Natural and gradual changes of this scale, usually iron out any risks or concerns through consideration and reasoned debate (common in democracy).

    This will not be the case here.
    Hence there are heightened immediate risks of unknown or wayward effects, by the few (undemocratically) will imposing their will on the many, many.

    It's the possible extent of the changes that scares me. But you don't think the changes will be implemented over over a period of 10 to 20 years?


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    #198
    Dohnjoe
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    growleaves wrote: »
    Are posters going to bounce between saying "x will never happen" and "x is happening but it doesn't matter"?

    Lots of people have no use for freedom and privacy and don't understand why other people want it.

    Not sure what your point is. Lockdown measures have one aim, to mitigate a global pandemic.

    There's no "sinister" purpose to them, most people agree with common sense measures.


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    #199
    Dionaibh
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    So couple of things, when a vaccine for covid is readily available, it's reasonable for countries to reject unvaccinated people traveling to their country. In the meantime, it's also reasonable to reject people who haven't tested negative. The likes of commonpass simply standardise documentation of that for travel.

    As long as it was just for travel then, while I wouldn't like it, it wouldn't be as bad as if it was a health passport for the shop, going to a restaurant, cinema, stadium, theatre, and pretty much anything you can think of. That's my fear. Imagine having to prove you're virus free to go to the shop. It's awful.


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    #200
    Dionaibh
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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Not sure what your point is. Lockdown measures have one aim, to mitigate a global pandemic.

    There's no "sinister" purpose to them, most people agree with common sense measures.

    Would you call what's going on in Melbourne mitigating a global pandemic? A Polish man who lives there wrote an article a couple of months ago in which he said that it reminded him of Communist Poland.


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    #201
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Dionaibh wrote: »
    It's the possible extent of the changes that scares me. But you don't think the changes will be implemented over over a period of 10 to 20 years?
    To quote a chap with rather large ears that talks to plants:
    “We have a golden opportunity to seize something good from this crisis — its unprecedented shockwaves may well make people more receptive to big visions of change,”
    “It is an opportunity we have never had before and may never have again.”

    All we know is changes will be drastic, sudden and significant across all socio-economic arenas.
    A once in a lifetime opportunity in essence.


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    #202
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »
    If one had a coin for everytime some specific 'types' here, lazily use the word 'nefarious' (daily!) lol.
    Show where I claimed there was something 'nefarious'.

    What The Great Reset is in essence the cramming of 15yrs worth of change into approx 1.5yrs.
    Now (sudden, wholescale) change, can be (both) good and bad.

    The only thing for certian is that the imposition of systemic change of this scope, will in turn have equally wholescale (irreversable) effects on populations (good and bad).

    Time is the single biggest risk factor here.
    Natural and gradual changes of this scale, usually iron out any risks or concerns through consideration and reasoned debate (common in democracy).

    This will not be the case here.
    Hence there are heightened immediate risks of unknown or wayward effects, by the few (undemocratically) will imposing their will on the many, many.

    Everything you write here is underpinned by an extreme paranoia of authority. "They" are always up to something. A global summit to discuss dealing with the pandemic has sinister undertones according to you. When asked for specifics or details, you can never provide them.


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    #203
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Would you call what's going on in Melbourne mitigating a global pandemic? A Polish man who lives there wrote an article a couple of months ago in which he said that it reminded him of Communist Poland.

    All of which was explained to you. You are either playing a role here, or you are unable to grasp basic explanations. If you can't understand things, no one can help you with that.


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    #204
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Everything you write here is underpinned by an extreme paranoia of authority. "They" are always up to something. A global summit to discuss dealing with the pandemic has sinister undertones according to you. When asked for specifics or details, you can never provide them.

    What do you think Charles means when he says "big visions of change"?

    An interesting comment on an article in the Daily Mail:

    "If your planned 'endgame' was a society (similar to china) but basically large communities all dealing with their own problems and finance. There would be no personal ownership for the sake of the commune (planet). No voting (that pretence is gone). Overall world control is Fa scist by "the rich". How would you get there? How could you get people to accept? Maybe if you manufacture a "crisis" and come down hard with any dissenters. Of course you'd need help, you'd need people onside to snitch others not obeying the dictat or something simple like not wearing a mask. You'd need some good old public shaming (and fear) to get the message over. You'd also need to dispel the 'its your own personal responsibility' and make it 'you have to for the community'. Welcome to Agenda21's non binding but signed up to by every country in the worlds policy of 'communitariansism'. Also needed would be a 'great reset' of some kind on the money system, bankrupting everyone and everywhere.."


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    #205
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    All of which was explained to you. You are either playing a role here, or you are unable to grasp basic explanations. If you can't understand things, no one can help you with that.

    No role. I just think that when Polish people living in Melbourne describe Melbourne as as bad as, if not worse than, Communist Poland, it should make us all worry. The Polish people I'm referring to are the journalist and people who commented on the article.


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    #206
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    A global summit to discuss dealing with the pandemic has sinister undertones according to you. When asked for specifics or details, you can never provide them.
    Again point out where there was anything 'sinister' mentioned.

    Again, as mentioned this 'Great Reset' is simply a series of massive changes, sanctioned by a small number, and all within a short time period.

    All this presents is a tri-fold increase in heightend risks, for irreversable undemocratic changes, yes some can be good, and certainly can be bad.

    However, there appears to be zero natural 'risk mitagion' of any potential negative aspects (time x scope x decision makers interests) factored against the actual stakeholder (the global public).
    Where is the public consultation on any changes they want to make?


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    #207
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »
    Again point out where there was anything 'sinister' mentioned.

    Again, as mentioned this 'Great Reset' is simply a series of massive changes, sanctioned by a small number, and all within a short time period.

    All this presents is a tri-fold increase in heightend risks, for irreversable undemocratic changes, yes some can be good, and certainly can be bad.

    However, there appears to be zero natural 'risk mitagion' of any potential negative aspects (time x scope x decision makers interests) factored against the actual stakeholder (the global public).
    Where is the public consultation on any changes they want to make?

    What changes do you envisage, Gianni Scrawny Steroid?


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    #208
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    Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »
    If one had a coin for everytime some specific 'types' here, lazily use the word 'nefarious' (daily!) lol.
    Show where I claimed there was something 'nefarious'.

    What The Great Reset is in essence the cramming of 15yrs worth of change into approx 1.5yrs.
    Now (sudden, wholescale) change, can be (both) good and bad.

    The only thing for certian is that the imposition of systemic change of this scope, will in turn have equally wholescale (irreversable) effects on populations (good and bad).

    Time is the single biggest risk factor here.
    Natural and gradual changes of this scale, usually iron out any risks or concerns through consideration and reasoned debate (common in democracy).

    This will not be the case here.
    Hence there are heightened immediate risks of unknown or wayward effects, by the few (undemocratically) will imposing their will on the many, many.

    The thing is, the Great Reset amounts to the theme for the WEF's annual meeting in 2021. It's a discussion, there's nothing legally binding about it and individual governments or companies may borrow from aspects of it. The title seems to be exciting you guys more than anything.

    Dionaibh wrote: »
    No role. I just think that when Polish people living in Melbourne describe Melbourne as as bad as, if not worse than, Communist Poland, it should make us all worry. The Polish people I'm referring to are the journalist and people who commented on the article.

    I'd be inclined to say they're being a bit hysterical.


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    #209
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    it should make us all worry.

    I think you should be more worried about your seemingly endless appetite for fear-mongered conspiracy theories.


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    #210
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    The thing is, the Great Reset amounts to the theme for the WEF's annual meeting in 2021. It's a discussion, there's nothing legally binding about it and individual governments or companies may borrow from aspects of it. The title seems to be exciting you guys more than anything.
    .
    Thing is, that its you that is only concerned with dismissing the 'title' of a book, and entirely ignoring the unread contents, even the blurb bit on the back.

    So we can assume from your POV, you are expecting very little in the way of any change at all, after this (once in a lifetime opportunity) twin-summit for global change across all socio-economic areas. Grand so.


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    #211
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »
    Again point out where there was anything 'sinister' mentioned.

    Paranoia of authority in every post, always insinuating some cabal of tyrannical "power's-that-be" are up to something undemocratic, without ever once giving specifics

    As demonstrated by the below
    Again, as mentioned this 'Great Reset' is simply a series of massive changes, sanctioned by a small number, and all within a short time period.

    All this presents is a tri-fold increase in heightend risks, for irreversable undemocratic changes, yes some can be good, and certainly can be bad.

    However, there appears to be zero natural 'risk mitagion' of any potential negative aspects (time x scope x decision makers interests) factored against the actual stakeholder (the global public).
    Where is the public consultation on any changes they want to make?

    All dressed up in complete waffle and false objectivity.


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