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Could science ever bring back the dinosaurs?

  • 10-10-2020 12:26am
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    Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭The_Dark_Lord


    The sale of the Tyrannosarus rex skeleton at Christie's auction house this week has had me thinking about how magnificent this ancient creature must have been when it was alive. I'm aware that their DNA is gone, but do you think it might be possible that science, with the aid of super AI computers, would ever be able to bring back Tyrannosaurus and other dinosaurs at some stage in the future?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    No, but Woolley Mammoths and other more recent extinctions are within the realm of possibility where we've found frozen samples.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭bobbyy gee


    They still have dna


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,931 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    Perhaps, it'd be great if they could bring back extinct species.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,571 ✭✭✭con747


    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes, if you extract the syrupy part from the amber and place it in a freezer for one week. Presto, dinosaur.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Feisar


    If they can grow an ear on a rats back I'm sure it is possible.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭1990sman


    if they find some insect that was sucking their blood then somehow got preserved in amber or something, piece of cake, they could bring them all back and even make up new ones. maybe set up some sort of reserve on an island where people could visit...


  • Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭1990sman


    Rothko wrote: »
    Perhaps, it'd be great if they could bring back extinct species.


    people will be next. the reverse dying with dignity bill.


    nothing matters anymore


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Stevie Attractive Tackle


    Another couple of centuries and we'll certainly have the CO2 levels to sustain them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    1990sman wrote: »
    if they find some insect that was sucking their blood then somehow got preserved in amber or something, piece of cake, they could bring them all back and even make up new ones. maybe set up some sort of reserve on an island where people could visit...

    Call it dinosaur island or something catchy like that.....yeah....could definitely work!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭1990sman


    wonder what they taste like... probably gamey enough but satisfying.

    hey remember cadillacs and dinosaurs? not sure if it was an arcade game or cartoon but it was pretty cool


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Character Building


    Life finds a way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,179 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    It will just turn out like Jurassic Park and they will come for us

    There going to be pissed off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,945 ✭✭✭growleaves


    If you can get mainstream experts to declare that the dinosaurs are back then as far as the majority of people are concerned the dinosaurs are back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭1990sman


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    It will just turn out like Jurassic Park and they will come for us

    There going to be pissed off


    i dunno man, the dinos might not be pissed, imagine a bunch of little tasty salty snacks beamed you into their world out of nothingness or dino heaven if they'd aready converted.


    theyd be all like ' whoa man thanks dude *nyom nyom* oh hey paul thanks again *nyomnyom*


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    chrissb8 wrote: »
    Call it dinosaur island or something catchy like that.....yeah....could definitely work!
    In the interest of public safety I hope they they don't open it up too early.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,562 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Dinosaurs evolved into birds. It should be possible to reverse engineer a chicken into a T Rex.


  • Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭1990sman


    McNuggesarus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    There was a film about it. I think it was called Billy and the Cloneasaurus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    This whole idea of bringing back dinosaurs is nonsense.

    Scientific focus should be on getting sponges to wear square pants.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,931 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    chrissb8 wrote: »
    Call it dinosaur island or something catchy like that.....yeah....could definitely work!

    Dinosaur peninsula


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,424 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    So long as they hire a better dinosaur supervisor this time.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Dinosaurs evolved into birds. It should be possible to reverse engineer a chicken into a T Rex.



    Supplementary video from the paper Grossi B, Iriarte-Díaz J, Larach O, Canals M, Vásquez RA (2014) Walking Like Dinosaurs: Chickens with Artificial Tails Provide Clues about Non-Avian Theropod Locomotion. PLoS ONE 9(2): e88458. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0088458.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    I hope they bring back megatherium


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    Why on earth would you want to bring back dinosaurs?

    Most adults can't handle dogs as pets. The dog whisperer earns a living and has his own T.V Show.

    How do you think they'll get on with a megalodon trying to chew the bollocks off them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,562 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Why on earth would you want to bring back dinosaurs?

    Most adults can't handle dogs as pets. The dog whisperer earns a living and has his own T.V Show.

    How do you think they'll get on with a megalodon trying to chew the bollocks off them.

    I think most adults look after their dogs well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    As long as they spare no expense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,382 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    1990sman wrote: »
    people will be next. the reverse dying with dignity bill.


    nothing matters anymore

    The bee in your bonnet is in no immediate danger of extinction anyway...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,130 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa




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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    I think most adults look after their dogs well.

    Some don't.

    It's not like we're going to put dinosaurs in the zoo or seaworld or some sh1t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,268 ✭✭✭893bet


    It’s pretty obvious that they can.

    Do ye not remember Jurassic Park 1 where the fat IT dropped the shaving can full of embryos.

    That will be found.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Let's say it were possible, then you run into a few problems, not least of which is the air we breathe today. Back in the age of dinosaurs there was a significantly higher percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere. So for the bigger ones, well anything much beyond dog sized you're running into problems of not enough O2 for them to breathe. Then there are diseases around now that weren't around then. Temperatures could be another problem as again back in their day the earth was hotter than it is today.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    It's pity they don't try to bring back some species that died out more recently due to human activity like the thylacine or dodo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,053 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Let's say it were possible, then you run into a few problems, not least of which is the air we breathe today. Back in the age of dinosaurs there was a significantly higher percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere. So for the bigger ones, well anything much beyond dog sized you're running into problems of not enough O2 for them to breathe. Then there are diseases around now that weren't around then. Temperatures could be another problem as again back in their day the earth was hotter than it is today.

    We'll sort that out.
    Global warming,
    more CO2 more plants,
    more plants more oxygen....
    ????
    Profit


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    If we start selectively breeding very large birds like ostriches and emus with particular interest in excessively large or aggressive specimens we might be on our way towards it.

    I have no idea why we would want to do that though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,865 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Lads, there's been a series of film about why this would be a very bad idea.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,562 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Some don't.

    It's not like we're going to put dinosaurs in the zoo or seaworld or some sh1t.

    There could be some in the zoo, like we do with elephants. And the super rich could have them as pets. They could afford to pay someone to take them for walks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Mr. DNA reckons it can be done so...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    There could be some in the zoo, like we do with elephants. And the super rich could have them as pets. They could afford to pay someone to take them for walks.

    Sounds amazing. I like to walk my elephants.


  • Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭The_Dark_Lord


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Let's say it were possible, then you run into a few problems, not least of which is the air we breathe today. Back in the age of dinosaurs there was a significantly higher percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere. So for the bigger ones, well anything much beyond dog sized you're running into problems of not enough O2 for them to breathe. Then there are diseases around now that weren't around then. Temperatures could be another problem as again back in their day the earth was hotter than it is today.

    Do you think there's a possibility that a species resembling the dinosaurs might exist on another planet?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭1990sman


    only a matter of time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Feisar wrote: »
    If they can grow an ear on a rats back I'm sure it is possible.

    A human ear ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    1990sman wrote: »
    if they find some insect that was sucking their blood then somehow got preserved in amber or something, piece of cake, they could bring them all back and even make up new ones. maybe set up some sort of reserve on an island where people could visit...

    I'm stealing you're movie idea


  • Administrators Posts: 54,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Let's say it were possible, then you run into a few problems, not least of which is the air we breathe today. Back in the age of dinosaurs there was a significantly higher percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere. So for the bigger ones, well anything much beyond dog sized you're running into problems of not enough O2 for them to breathe. Then there are diseases around now that weren't around then. Temperatures could be another problem as again back in their day the earth was hotter than it is today.

    I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that if someone does bring back a t-rex the percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere is going to be pretty far down the list of problems that people raise.

    I've seen this movie.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    awec wrote: »
    I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that if someone does bring back a t-rex the percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere is going to be pretty far down the list of problems that people raise.

    I've seen this movie.

    raptor_fences.png
    https://xkcd.com/758/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,130 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    A human ear ?

    Well, it was a human ear shape. Roughly.

    They grew cartilage on a mouse’s back around an ear-shaped framework, and used a mould on the outside to make it look like an ear. It looks freaky, but is not an actual human ear, it wouldn’t have grown that shape if it wasn’t confined to the mould, and they didn’t even use human cells. The cartilage cells came from a cow.

    300px-Vacanti_mouse.jpg

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacanti_mouse

    It’s been done on rats since, but with the same technique.


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