FBI Thwarts Plot by Militia(s) to Kidnap, Try, Execute Gov. of Michigan

Overheal wrote: »

Which means spittle. The symbol has been around since the 1970s and fomented around punk rock.

/Tried to capture and kill a democrat governer

"Yeah but one of the dudes crazy enough to stock up guns armor and explosives has an A-flag"

Stupendous.

Yep, if the guy has a bookshelf showing Kropotkins ‘The conquest of Bread’ in the background then he might be an anarchist. I doubt very much this fella was motivated by a desire to implement the concept of Mutualism

it's interesting they are blaming the Militia - is there any evidence these guys are part of any Militia
What I see online is these guys are stand alone anarchists not militia (in the organised sense)


The distinction may seem trite to people on boards but in the USA its a huge distinction.


Seems to me initially the governor is using a plot by independent operators to smear organised groups opposed to her.

Honestly, the FBI and the media are reaching for straws here trying to portray this as 'a militia'. It's a bunch of anarchists/antifa, who have spent the last 5 months burning down cities, assaulting/murdering people and targeting politicians. Surprise surprise, they target another politician.

How disheatening must it be for Brandon Caserta. Now matter how hard he tries to embrace his politics, when it comes right down to it all his so called 'allies' see is an angry white male. He has destroyed his life for nothing.

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The USA is a broken and sick society. Not sure why this story is particularly worthy of a thread tbh. Fat men with anger issues buy guns. Sums up America to be honest.

Wholeheartedly agree

Moghead wrote: »

Hopefully this will lead to a clamp down on militias in the US. There is no need for them in a modern democracy.

thats where you're wrong.
if covid has thought the people of the USA anything , it's their freedom are very fragile.

They need more militias

paw patrol wrote: »

it's interesting they are blaming the Militia - is there any evidence these guys are part of any Militia
What I see online is these guys are stand alone anarchists not militia (in the organised sense)


The distinction may seem trite to people on boards but in the USA its a huge distinction.


Seems to me initially the governor is using a plot by independent operators to smear organised groups opposed to her.

Sand wrote: »

Honestly, the FBI and the media are reaching for straws here trying to portray this as 'a militia'. It's a bunch of anarchists/antifa, who have spent the last 5 months burning down cities, assaulting/murdering people and targeting politicians. Surprise surprise, they target another politician.

How disheatening must it be for Brandon Caserta. Now matter how hard he tries to embrace his politics, when it comes right down to it all his so called 'allies' see is an angry white male. He has destroyed his life for nothing.

7 members of the Wolverine Watchmen militia group charged. Is that proof enough?

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said that seven members of an armed group called the Wolverine Watchmen were also facing state charges.

They are suspected of attempting to identify the home addresses of law enforcement officers in order to target them and "instigate a civil war," the attorney general said.

They also planned to attack the capitol building in Lansing and kidnap government officials including Ms Whitmer, she said.

The seven were charged with various offences, including providing material support for terrorist acts, gang membership and firearms violations.

Sand wrote: »

No, 'militia' in the US context is commonly used to designate white right wing armed groups. The use of the term here is a deliberate attempt to muddy the waters as the FBI is desperately trying to make white domestic terrorism a thing.

I would have thought the FBI had a clearer picture than some randomer posting on boards

francois wrote: »

I would have thought the FBI had a clearer picture than some randomer posting on boards

Maybe even an insider perspective on the whole thing.

Gervais08 wrote: »

Oh bless. Google “electoral college” pet.

Democracy in action, darling

Sand wrote: »

No, 'militia' in the US context is commonly used to designate white right wing armed groups. The use of the term here is a deliberate attempt to muddy the waters as the FBI is desperately trying to make white domestic terrorism a thing. I'd say its highly likely the FBI were actually the ones to inspire and organise this plot.

This is conspiratorial nonsense. The idea the FBI is trying to bring down Trump because he’s some sort of anti-establishment crusader and all this craic.

America has a host of right wing people prone to violent actions, it has always had this dynamic. These people were a group of extreme libertarian, anti-big government types; they weren’t some shower of left wing anarchos.

It’s gas really; your point is essentially ‘theyre lefty agitators and even if they’re not the FBI invented the whole thing’.

Makes no sense mate.

Sand wrote: »

And in any case, we have the guys own anarchist and anti-trump views voiced in his own words so we're not just relying on the flag. Even if there was no flag, there is still enough to disprove the desperate FBI/media narrative of terrorist white militias.

I'm fairly sure kidnapping elected officials, staging a trial, and executing them would be included under most people's definition of terrorism.

From the pictures released, they seem to be white.

And seven of them are members of a militia group.

So I'm not really clear on how calling them a "terrorist white militia" can be described as a "desperate narrative"?

Whether they're pro- or anti-Trump is irrelevant.
Although when the US President tweets "LIBERATE MICHIGAN!" and the group of people then plan to storm the state capitol and kidnap the governor, it's hard not to draw a connection. Especially when at least two of them were in the original group to converge on the state capitol shortly after Trump's tweet.

But life is full of weird coincidences.