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Councillors hoping to bring 'rainbow crossing' to West Cork town

  • 07-10-2020 05:27PM
    #1
    Specialun
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    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40060616.html

    I just think this is daft and no real need. Isnt a zebra crossing for safety purposes over to make statements

    Am I allowed to be against this or would I be branded homophobe or whatever if I say I'm against this


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  • #2
    magic_murph
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    prob branded more a bore bag than anything else


  • #3
    Yurt2
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    I've seen these in various cities (I think there might be one in Dublin somewhere?), and they look quite gaudy and get very grubby looking very quickly.

    On the basis of aesthetics and a nice looking public realm alone, I'd say no to this.

    Also, as alluded to above, a zebra crossing is a well-understood road marking and for safety purposes, is it not a bad idea to be screwing around with that?


  • #4
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    As one of the regular shirtlifters here, we have much bigger things to be concerned about at the moment than a rainbow crossing. It's just virtue signalling.


  • #5
    Thelonious Monk
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    Homophobe! Get him!


  • #6
    downwesht
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭downwesht


    Clonakilty always want to be the"first" to do everything in West Cork!Personally I think the crossings should be left alone,many people have difficulty recognising the proper ones.One accident at one of the coloured ones and who is reponsible????


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  • #7
    Archeron
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    Won't somebody think of the automous cars?


  • #8
    James Brown
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    It's no harm ffs. If it makes some gay folk feel accepted great. If it does nothing, it's not going to cause any bother. Mind some legion of Mary type might vandalise it.


  • #9
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,689 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Going to make crossing the road very difficult when someone's tripp'in balls on drugs.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • #10
    kirving
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    Bowie wrote: »
    It's no harm ffs. If it makes some gay folk feel accepted great. If it does nothing, it's not going to cause any bother. Mind some legion of Mary type might vandalise it.

    I have absolutely zero issue with flags, signs, painted paths, etc.

    But road markings are very definitely a safety feature which should not be changed without an engineered approach. Their design has been arrived at over decades of iterations to address safety concerns and be absolutely as clear as possible.

    They are specifically painted white or yellow to have high contrast against the tarmacdam, to be standardised across Europe, are sized depending on the road type, speed, hazards, potential weather, among other things, using a tried and tested approach.

    Road markings are a science, not a political statement.


  • #11
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Standard pure hue of 'Purple' upon black tarmac, has a ratio of 2.22954140864877 / 20 (accessibility fail) with Relative Luminance of just 0.06147707043243851.

    Insurance claim pedestrian hobbists, will be tripping over themselves onto Mercs, for easy compo cash.


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  • #12
    Eric Cartman
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    Jade Witty Limo wrote: »
    Standard pure hue of 'Purple' upon black tarmac, has a ratio of 2.22954140864877 / 20 (accessibility fail) with Relative Luminance of just 0.06147707043243851.

    Insurance claim pedestrian hobbists, will be tripping over themselves onto Mercs, for easy compo cash.

    also any time somebody brakes a bit hard on them, theres a story about the tyre marks being a 'homophobic incident' and thus giving the perpetually outraged more airtime and the gardai more work.

    its a no from me.


  • #13
    sabat
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    Kevin Irving wrote: »
    I have absolutely zero issue with flags, signs, painted paths, etc.

    But road markings are very definitely a safety feature which should not be changed without an engineered approach. Their design has been arrived at over decades of iterations to address safety concerns and be absolutely as clear as possible.

    They are specifically painted white or yellow to have high contrast against the tarmacdam, to be standardised across Europe, are sized depending on the road type, speed, hazards, potential weather, among other things, using a tried and tested approach.

    Road markings are a science, not a political statement.

    Changing them would also require the law itself to be changed in the Dáil, at a cost of several hundred thousand euros.


  • #14
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    See one in Wellington NZ, looked fine.
    They now sometimes have Maori figurines on the green pedestrian cross signs. Is that a problem too?


  • #15
    KaneToad
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    Not sure messing around with road markings is the way to go. More flags or some public art would be a better bet.


  • #16
    Gregor Samsa
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    Water John wrote: »
    See one in Wellington NZ, looked fine.
    They now sometimes have Maori figurines on the green pedestrian cross signs. Is that a problem too?

    It’s grand in New Zealand, but it would be a bit odd in West Cork. Bordering on the cultural appropriation even.


  • #17
    Manach
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Bowie wrote: »
    Mind some legion of Mary type might vandalise it.

    Projecting your own inner bully?


  • #18
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,550 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Seamai wrote: »
    As one of the regular shirtlifters here, we have much bigger things to be concerned about at the moment than a rainbow crossing. It's just virtue signalling.

    Whether for or against anyone who's biggest worry is if a crossing is zebra or rainbow is living a blessed life


  • #19
    breezy1985
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    Gregor Samsa wrote: »
    It’s grand in New Zealand, but it would be a bit odd in West Cork. Bordering on the cultural appropriation even.

    Sean Og could do some Fijian ones and youde be.in the clear


  • #20
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,599 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Road signs and markings should not be tampered with to make statements about being PC.
    They would do better to ensure that all signs and markings were properly maintained.


  • #21
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    I love rainbow colours so I like it!


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  • #22
    biko
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    Paul Hayes, the guy who leftSF?
    Sounds like he's trying to win some progressive votes.

    I'm against it solely because of the virtue signalling and the political message baked into LGBT these days, but I don't live there.
    Let the people of Clonakilty decide.


  • #23
    km991148
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    Water John wrote: »
    They now sometimes have Maori figurines on the green pedestrian cross signs. Is that a problem too?

    Now that would be confusing over here :pac:, but f it - why not!


    Who actually gets upset over this sorta thing? Where exactly is the harm, at worst, it might actually be a small bit if virtue signaling, but very mildly so...


    So many other things to get upset over..


  • #24
    donkeykong5
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    I'm surprised it's not cobh who wants it.


  • #25
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Specialun wrote: »
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40060616.html

    I just think this is daft and no real need. Isnt a zebra crossing for safety purposes over to make statements

    Am I allowed to be against this or would I be branded homophobe or whatever if I say I'm against this
    It's actually a homophobic move because they want to install a non standard crossing for gay people which may result in them being involved in a collision.


  • #26
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    s1ippy wrote: »
    It's actually a homophobic move because they want to install a non standard crossing for gay people which may result in them being involved in a collision.

    You mean only gay people can use it?


  • #27
    km991148
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    s1ippy wrote: »
    It's actually a homophobic move because they want to install a non standard crossing for gay people which may result in them being involved in a collision.

    I think there has been a slight misunderstanding :pac:


  • #28
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Re: safety, couldn’t white lines be painted on each side?


  • #29
    [Deleted User]
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    Ooh getting rid of the black lines... bit racist.


  • #30
    osarusan
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    Don't see much harm, don't see much point.


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  • #31
    Marcel Unsightly Cranium
    Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Marcel Unsightly Cranium


    osarusan wrote: »
    Don't see much harm, don't see much point.

    Well put.


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