Councillors hoping to bring 'rainbow crossing' to West Cork town

Specialun

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40060616.html

I just think this is daft and no real need. Isnt a zebra crossing for safety purposes over to make statements

Am I allowed to be against this or would I be branded homophobe or whatever if I say I'm against this

magic_murph

prob branded more a bore bag than anything else

Yurt2

I've seen these in various cities (I think there might be one in Dublin somewhere?), and they look quite gaudy and get very grubby looking very quickly.

On the basis of aesthetics and a nice looking public realm alone, I'd say no to this.

Also, as alluded to above, a zebra crossing is a well-understood road marking and for safety purposes, is it not a bad idea to be screwing around with that?

Seamai

As one of the regular shirtlifters here, we have much bigger things to be concerned about at the moment than a rainbow crossing. It's just virtue signalling.

Thelonious Monk

Homophobe! Get him!

downwesht

Clonakilty always want to be the"first" to do everything in West Cork!Personally I think the crossings should be left alone,many people have difficulty recognising the proper ones.One accident at one of the coloured ones and who is reponsible????

Archeron

Won't somebody think of the automous cars?

James Brown

It's no harm ffs. If it makes some gay folk feel accepted great. If it does nothing, it's not going to cause any bother. Mind some legion of Mary type might vandalise it.

TheValeyard

Going to make crossing the road very difficult when someone's tripp'in balls on drugs.

kirving

Bowie wrote: »

It's no harm ffs. If it makes some gay folk feel accepted great. If it does nothing, it's not going to cause any bother. Mind some legion of Mary type might vandalise it.

I have absolutely zero issue with flags, signs, painted paths, etc.

But road markings are very definitely a safety feature which should not be changed without an engineered approach. Their design has been arrived at over decades of iterations to address safety concerns and be absolutely as clear as possible.

They are specifically painted white or yellow to have high contrast against the tarmacdam, to be standardised across Europe, are sized depending on the road type, speed, hazards, potential weather, among other things, using a tried and tested approach.

Road markings are a science, not a political statement.

4068ac1elhodqr

Standard pure hue of 'Purple' upon black tarmac, has a ratio of 2.22954140864877 / 20 (accessibility fail) with Relative Luminance of just 0.06147707043243851.

Insurance claim pedestrian hobbists, will be tripping over themselves onto Mercs, for easy compo cash.

Eric Cartman

Jade Witty Limo wrote: »

Standard pure hue of 'Purple' upon black tarmac, has a ratio of 2.22954140864877 / 20 (accessibility fail) with Relative Luminance of just 0.06147707043243851.

Insurance claim pedestrian hobbists, will be tripping over themselves onto Mercs, for easy compo cash.

also any time somebody brakes a bit hard on them, theres a story about the tyre marks being a 'homophobic incident' and thus giving the perpetually outraged more airtime and the gardai more work.

its a no from me.

sabat

Kevin Irving wrote: »

I have absolutely zero issue with flags, signs, painted paths, etc.

But road markings are very definitely a safety feature which should not be changed without an engineered approach. Their design has been arrived at over decades of iterations to address safety concerns and be absolutely as clear as possible.

They are specifically painted white or yellow to have high contrast against the tarmacdam, to be standardised across Europe, are sized depending on the road type, speed, hazards, potential weather, among other things, using a tried and tested approach.

Road markings are a science, not a political statement.

Changing them would also require the law itself to be changed in the Dáil, at a cost of several hundred thousand euros.

Water John

See one in Wellington NZ, looked fine.
They now sometimes have Maori figurines on the green pedestrian cross signs. Is that a problem too?

KaneToad

Not sure messing around with road markings is the way to go. More flags or some public art would be a better bet.

Gregor Samsa

Water John wrote: »

See one in Wellington NZ, looked fine.
They now sometimes have Maori figurines on the green pedestrian cross signs. Is that a problem too?

It’s grand in New Zealand, but it would be a bit odd in West Cork. Bordering on the cultural appropriation even.

Manach

Bowie wrote: »

Mind some legion of Mary type might vandalise it.

Projecting your own inner bully?

breezy1985

Seamai wrote: »

As one of the regular shirtlifters here, we have much bigger things to be concerned about at the moment than a rainbow crossing. It's just virtue signalling.

Whether for or against anyone who's biggest worry is if a crossing is zebra or rainbow is living a blessed life

breezy1985

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

It’s grand in New Zealand, but it would be a bit odd in West Cork. Bordering on the cultural appropriation even.

Sean Og could do some Fijian ones and youde be.in the clear

Charles Babbage

Road signs and markings should not be tampered with to make statements about being PC.
They would do better to ensure that all signs and markings were properly maintained.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

I love rainbow colours so I like it!

biko

Paul Hayes, the guy who leftSF?
Sounds like he's trying to win some progressive votes.

I'm against it solely because of the virtue signalling and the political message baked into LGBT these days, but I don't live there.
Let the people of Clonakilty decide.

km991148

Water John wrote: »

They now sometimes have Maori figurines on the green pedestrian cross signs. Is that a problem too?

Now that would be confusing over here :pac:, but f it - why not!


Who actually gets upset over this sorta thing? Where exactly is the harm, at worst, it might actually be a small bit if virtue signaling, but very mildly so...


So many other things to get upset over..

donkeykong5

I'm surprised it's not cobh who wants it.

s1ippy

Specialun wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40060616.html

I just think this is daft and no real need. Isnt a zebra crossing for safety purposes over to make statements

Am I allowed to be against this or would I be branded homophobe or whatever if I say I'm against this

It's actually a homophobic move because they want to install a non standard crossing for gay people which may result in them being involved in a collision.

Water John

s1ippy wrote: »

It's actually a homophobic move because they want to install a non standard crossing for gay people which may result in them being involved in a collision.

You mean only gay people can use it?

km991148

s1ippy wrote: »

It's actually a homophobic move because they want to install a non standard crossing for gay people which may result in them being involved in a collision.

I think there has been a slight misunderstanding :pac:

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Re: safety, couldn’t white lines be painted on each side?

Ooh getting rid of the black lines... bit racist.

osarusan

Don't see much harm, don't see much point.

osarusan

osarusan wrote: »

Don't see much harm, don't see much point.

Well put.

colourblind people affected by it no?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Woah...

P R O G R E S S I V E

John Doe1

Are you allowed to use it if you arent too pushed by the gays?

I will petition for a heterosexual crossing in Letterkenny.

Atlantic Dawn

With all going on in the country at the moment to want to implement this is a bloody joke, no wonder Trump gets votes, he's against this complete load of bollix boxticking becoming mainstream.

All driving test documentation and training will need to be updated to make this legal, potential cost a few million, seriously?

John Doe1

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

With all going on in the country at the moment to want to implement this is a bloody joke, no wonder Trump gets votes, he's against this complete load of bollix boxticking becoming mainstream.

All driving test documentation and training will need to be updated to make this legal, potential cost a few million, seriously?

You are missing the point, the right-on middle class of the town need a chance to show how sophisticated and cosmopolitan they are.

Atlantic Dawn

John Doe1 wrote: »

You are missing the point, the right-on middle class of the town need a chance to show how sophisticated and cosmopolitan they are.

Why not paint a brick wall with some mural if they want attention.

quokula

breezy1985 wrote: »

Whether for or against anyone who's biggest worry is if a crossing is zebra or rainbow is living a blessed life

Yep, amazing to see so many people getting so offended by it. What happened to free speech? Cancel culture at its finest. Snowflakes offended by a multicoloured crossing :rolleyes: don’t they have anything better to worry about.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Deleted User wrote: »

Ooh getting rid of the black lines... bit racist.

I know this is a joke but, eh, don’t zebra crossings tend to just have white lines? And then just the tarmac in between?

gozunda

quokula wrote: »

Yep, amazing to see so many people getting so offended by it. What happened to free speech? Cancel culture at its finest. Snowflakes offended by a multicoloured crossing :rolleyes: don’t they have anything better to worry about.

You do know you're on a discussion forum? :pac:

If you're easily offended by people expressing their opinions and etc ....

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I know this is a joke but, eh, don’t zebra crossings tend to just have white lines? And then just the tarmac in between?

So you dont even acknowledge the blacks are there. Only see the whites.

Hell of a statement to make publicly in these times. I applaud your honesty.

White Crossings Matter.


(Joking obviously).


My serious contribution: rainbow crossings are a stupid idea that dont do anything for anyone. If I hate gay people, my opinion wont change by messing with the road markings.

If I was gay myself, I'd like to think I didnt need to be made a spectacle of and it become my defining personality trait.

I know a few gay people. I know a few black people. I dont feel the need to show them how much I accept them for being gay or black by hanging rainbow pictures in my house or such. I dont care if they're gay or black or asian or any other minority.

Surely the best way to show you arent a massive homophobic racist, is simply to demonstrate indifference? Not make them uncomfortable by singling people out, even if you are well intentioned..?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Deleted User wrote: »

So you dont even acknowledge the blacks are there. Only see the whites.

Hell of a statement to make publicly in these times. I applaud your honesty.

White Crossings Matter.


(Joking obviously).


My serious contribution: rainbow crossings are a stupid idea that dont do anything for anyone. If I hate gay people, my opinion wont change by messing with the road markings.

If I was gay myself, I'd like to think I didnt need to be made a spectacle of and it become my defining personality trait.

I know a few gay people. I know a few black people. I dont feel the need to show them how much I accept them for being gay or black by hanging rainbow pictures in my house or such. I dont care if they're gay or black or asian or any other minority.

Surely the best way to show you arent a massive homophobic racist, is simply to demonstrate indifference? Not make them uncomfortable by singling people out, even if you are well intentioned..?

Well, yeah, I’m a notorious racist. Duh!

I love rainbow colours so for that reason I’d like to see rainbow crossings. But I have to agree that marking somebody out as different isn’t the way to go. I never once thought about Leo Varadkar being gay when he was Taoiseach. Why would I?

I find much of the preachy stuff since the Floyd murder to be pretty divisive. I believe it will breed resentment.

breezy1985

quokula wrote: »

Yep, amazing to see so many people getting so offended by it. What happened to free speech? Cancel culture at its finest. Snowflakes offended by a multicoloured crossing :rolleyes: don’t they have anything better to worry about.

Ya but road signs and that. People are very concerned about road markings in Ireland which is why all the cycle lanes are full of cars in Ireland and everyone parks on double yellows.
"Won't somebody please think of the children"

WrenBoy

Gay people of Ireland, your troubles are over !! We give you.....<drum roll> A Colourful Road Crossing in West Cork ! You are Welcome.

whisky_galore

sabat wrote: »

Changing them would also require the law itself to be changed in the Dáil, at a cost of several hundred thousand euros.

The councillors can go fund it themselves out of their own pockets.

keano_afc

https://vancouversun.com/news/crime/west-vancouvers-pride-crosswalk-vandalized

This is a real headline. Police actually investigated a skidmark.

breezy1985

keano_afc wrote: »

https://vancouversun.com/news/crime/west-vancouvers-pride-crosswalk-vandalized

This is a real headline. Police actually investigated a skidmark.

That's absolutely amazing
On a side note I tried to read a sports report on that paper once that read like a teenagers Twitter. The guy used phrases likes like "oh no they didn't" and OMG in what is supposed to be the classy paper in Vancouver

keano_afc

keano_afc wrote: »

https://vancouversun.com/news/crime/west-vancouvers-pride-crosswalk-vandalized

This is a real headline. Police actually investigated a skidmark.

They should be able to get DNA off it.

Seamai

Seamai wrote: »

As one of the regular shirtlifters here, we have much bigger things to be concerned about at the moment

Yeah, one of which is being called a "shirtlifter" by some asshole. :rolleyes:

(ninja edit!!! I don't mean you obviously, sorry!!!!)

Muahahaha

downwesht wrote: »

Clonakilty always want to be the"first" to do everything in West Cork!

What is it about people in west Cork in general, you never hear anyone say that they are from 'east Cork' or 'north Cork', they just say they are from Cork. But the westies seem to like to distinguish themselves from the rest of the county for some reason, are they a bit up themselves down there or something?

WrenBoy

Muahahaha wrote: »

What is it about people in west Cork in general, you never hear anyone say that they are from 'east Cork' or 'north Cork', they just say they are from Cork. But the westies seem to like to distinguish themselves from the rest of the county for some reason, are they a bit up themselves down there or something?

Now that you mention it ya, never heard of anyone from North Cork they love to mention they're from West Cork though. :pac:




Nice beaches there though in fairness.