PlayStation 5 - Now with FAQ in OP.

wes · 07-10-2020 02:22PM

Good that its easy to get at the fans to clean them if need be, and putting in an extra m2 drive will be easy.

The Raging Bile Duct · 07-10-2020 02:29PM

Presumably when it's so massive there's some hope of it not sounding like it's taking off when you're playing it. Has there been any comment on that end?

Inquitus · 07-10-2020 02:29PM

Relatively easy to disassemble!

Markitron · 07-10-2020 02:30PM

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

Presumably when it's so massive there's some hope of it not sounding like it's taking off when you're playing it. Has there been any comment on that end?

Yea the Japanese YouTubers that got their hands on it said it was silent.

shrewdness · 07-10-2020 02:32PM

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

Presumably when it's so massive there's some hope of it not sounding like it's taking off when you're playing it. Has there been any comment on that end?

Haven't been able to watch yet, but I seen this comment on reddit noting a few things. The first point seems to answer your question.

"Some cool takeaways I found:

• Design was achieved to maintain quietness

• Side Panels are removable without the need of unscrewing

• The same stand is reversable for both horizontal and vertical positions

• There is a dust catcher that can be easily vacuumed

• Uses liquid metal to better dissapate CPU/GPU heat

• WiFi 6 Confirmed!

• One giant double intake fan (air flows from both side vents and is blown out the back)

• UHD drive is incased in metal to reduce disc spin noise

• NVMe SSD bay slot for expandable storage is behind the right Faceplate (covered by a single screw cover)"

fixXxer · 07-10-2020 02:33PM

I really like the design of the digital version. It has a very pleasing symmetry to me.

klose · 07-10-2020 02:34PM

Perfectly happy for it to a bit bigger for the sake of it being quiet, I mean we all know what the ps4 was like with some games (MGSV I'm looking at you!!)

The Raging Bile Duct · 07-10-2020 02:34PM

Markitron wrote: »

That is also a new one to me.

A similarly aged friend of mine recently described something someone did as 'a serious flex'. I was lost for words so I just called him a c**t.

Bruh, idek why you throwing shade at your fam when he be thristy for thot. That's not gucci. You should sip tea and be tope.

Markitron · 07-10-2020 02:39PM

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

Bruh, idek why you throwing shade at your fam when he be thristy for thot. That's not gucci. You should sip tea and be tope.

Admit it, you made about half of those up.

Berty · 07-10-2020 02:48PM

I think the stand requirement even when horizontal is to maintain heat expansion across the base(when it's horizontal at least) otherwise why would you need to have it propped up.

Also, I should start an eBay business RIGHT NOW selling replacement screws for the base and those little cover things. But I won't because I'm lazy.

Exclamation Marc · 07-10-2020 02:50PM

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

Bruh, idek why you throwing shade at your fam when he be thristy for thot. That's not gucci. You should sip tea and be tope.

Reminds me of this.

The Raging Bile Duct · 07-10-2020 02:51PM

Markitron wrote: »

Admit it, you made about half of those up.

Supposedly they're all legit slang. You'd sound like some spa coming out with that scutter though...

GhostyMcGhost · 07-10-2020 02:53PM

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

Bruh, idek why you throwing shade at your fam when he be thristy for thot. That's not gucci. You should sip tea and be tope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV0wTtiJygY

Markitron · 07-10-2020 02:53PM

Berty wrote: »

I think the stand requirement even when horizontal is to maintain heat expansion across the base(when it's horizontal at least) otherwise why would you need to have it propped up.

Also, I should start an eBay business RIGHT NOW selling replacement screws for the base and those little cover things. But I won't because I'm lazy.

This is the first (mainstream) console I can think of that can't stand vertically or lay flat horizontally by itself.

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

Supposedly they're all legit slang. You'd sound like some spa coming out with that scutter though...

Especially if you are over 12 years old

The Raging Bile Duct · 07-10-2020 02:54PM

Actually, the cartoon series Close Enough on Netflix, from the creators of the Regular Show, does a great job of expressing that feeling of ageing out of coolness that you experience when reading slang like that.

TitianGerm · 07-10-2020 02:54PM

shrewdness wrote: »

Haven't been able to watch yet, but I seen this comment on reddit noting a few things. The first point seems to answer your question.

"Some cool takeaways I found:

• Design was achieved to maintain quietness

• Side Panels are removable without the need of unscrewing

• The same stand is reversable for both horizontal and vertical positions

• There is a dust catcher that can be easily vacuumed

• Uses liquid metal to better dissapate CPU/GPU heat

• WiFi 6 Confirmed!

• One giant double intake fan (air flows from both side vents and is blown out the back)

• UHD drive is incased in metal to reduce disc spin noise

• NVMe SSD bay slot for expandable storage is behind the right Faceplate (covered by a single screw cover)"

Gamers Nexus has done testing on CPU cooling materials in the past and there was very little difference in temperatures when using thermal paste or liquid metal.

I wonder would the liquid metal have a longer life though?

TitianGerm · 07-10-2020 02:55PM

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

Bruh, idek why you throwing shade at your fam when he be thristy for thot. That's not gucci. You should sip tea and be tope.

Can we just ban this guy now?

Markitron · 07-10-2020 03:04PM

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

Actually, the cartoon series Close Enough on Netflix, from the creators of the Regular Show, does a great job of expressing that feeling of ageing out of coolness that you experience when reading slang like that.

Tbh I was never cool, though I did mostly speak the same language as those around me.

xtal191 · 07-10-2020 03:04PM

PS4 version doesn't look near as bad in this trailer

duploelabs · 07-10-2020 03:05PM

Varik wrote: »

Anyone who ever plans on opening it better make sure they open it the right way up, the gallium in liquid metal eats aluminium.

That's why you can't take mercury thermometers on aluminium planes

J Mysterio · 07-10-2020 03:10PM

Markitron wrote: »

Bit off topic here, but reading the twitter comments, the most frequent word I am seeing to describe this is 'thiccc'.

Is this a thing now? If being in mid-30s means I find this kind of thing stupid then I wish I had been this age my entire life.

Varik · 07-10-2020 03:23PM

TitianGerm wrote: »

Gamers Nexus has done testing on CPU cooling materials in the past and there was very little difference in temperatures when using thermal paste or liquid metal.

I wonder would the liquid metal have a longer life though?

I think you're confusing using liquid metal between the integrated heat spreader and the die vs using it between the IHS and the heatsink for PC CPUs.

Even using it on the die helps a lot with per core heat, and I'm pretty sure they did a few videos about what they screwed up on their test for that and it was using custom water cooling so that's a serious amount of heat removal capacity. Benchmarks for more modest AIO and air coolers show a larger difference.

The Raging Bile Duct · 07-10-2020 03:26PM

Varik wrote: »

I think you're confusing using liquid metal between the integrated heat spreader and the die vs using it between the IHS and the heatsink for PC CPUs.

Even using it on the die helps a lot with per core heat.

When people talk like that, I feel like this...

Exclamation Marc · 07-10-2020 03:28PM

xtal191 wrote: »

PS4 version doesn't look near as bad in this trailer

Yeah its common enough when companies are trying to sell the visual quality between standards but its pretty dishonest.

I remember even when Sky launched Sky HD they very obviously nerfed their related SD versions of those channels to accentuate the difference between both.

It sucks though, and is misleading. As someone else said, the PS4 quality in the comparison video is probably more towards PS3 quality.

07-10-2020 03:30PM

From the teardown it seems like an expensive and convoluted design. So many weird little shapes and bits of plastic. Those non-planar side panels ... expensive. Stand with moving parts, clips and nooks for stowing screws ... expensive. That's an enormous heatsink. Liquid-metal TIM. The fan looks like something off a steam-boat.

The PS4 was an extremely elegant and cost-efficient design, this thing is absolute madness in comparison. The PS4 Pro was noisy because they used multiple fan vendors and some of them were crap (crap bearings etc) ... that's all they needed to fix (!).

I would love to know how much they are losing on the $399 model.

CastorTroy · 07-10-2020 03:30PM

So when will the new iteration of Home be announced?

The Raging Bile Duct · 07-10-2020 03:32PM

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Yeah its common enough when companies are trying to sell the visual quality between standards but its pretty dishonest.

I remember even when Sky launched Sky HD they very obviously nerfed their related SD versions of those channels to accentuate the difference between both.

It sucks though, and is misleading. As someone else said, the PS4 quality in the comparison video is probably more towards PS3 quality.

Does it specify that it's PS4 footage in that trailer?

HairySalmon · 07-10-2020 03:35PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

From the teardown it seems like an expensive and convoluted design. So many weird little shapes and bits of plastic. Those non-planar side panels ... expensive. Stand with moving parts, clips and nooks for stowing screws ... expensive. That's an enormous heatsink. Liquid-metal TIM. The fan looks like something off a steam-boat.

The PS4 was an extremely elegant and cost-efficient design, this thing is absolute madness in comparison. The PS4 Pro was noisy because they used multiple fan vendors and some of them were crap (crap bearings etc) ... that's all they needed to fix (!).

I would love to know how much they are losing on the $399 model.

That’s part of the reason why I like being an early adopter of consoles. I know what I’m buying should actually be much more expensive than what I’m paying for, so seems like better value for money.

I had the same thoughts with the stand as well, a complex design like that would add up to a lot when you’re selling tens of millions of consoles!

Markitron · 07-10-2020 03:35PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The PS4 was an extremely elegant and cost-efficient design, this thing is absolute madness in comparison. The PS4 Pro was noisy because they used multiple fan vendors and some of them were crap (crap bearings etc) ... that's all they needed to fix (!)..

The original PS4 was as loud as the PS4 pro

EoinMcLovin · 07-10-2020 03:39PM

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1313848349758382080?s=19

PlayStation 5 - Now with FAQ in OP.

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