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Farming Chitchat 10/10- Now VIRUS-FREE!

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  • #9542
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Is Boards acting the bollocks for anyone else this morning? 503 errors all over the shop for me.


  • #9543
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,179 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Lady Haywire wrote: »
    Is Boards acting the bollocks for anyone else this morning? 503 errors all over the shop for me.

    Leaves down in the tracks and the hamsters have to run slower or some similar technical problem.


  • #9544
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Lady Haywire wrote: »
    Is Boards acting the bollocks for anyone else this morning? 503 errors all over the shop for me.
    Yeah, 503s all morning for me as well. The office has been notified but it will probably be tomorrow before it's fixed.
    _Brian wrote: »
    Leaves down in the tracks and the hamsters have to run slower or some similar technical problem.

    I think I may have accidentally blown some of the weekend coke into their water bowl at last nights party:pac:


  • #9545
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,579 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    "I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."


  • #9546
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Not a peep out of the cows this morning, they know what it's like out there!
    New creep gates working mighty, calves are dry & clean & learned them very quickly.


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  • #9547
    CHOPS01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 785 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    My few calves are coughing a bit the last few days. What would lads normally give em ?
    Is a pour on/injection severe on calves or is an oral dose better ?


  • #9548
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,179 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    My few calves are coughing a bit the last few days. What would lads normally give em ?
    Is a pour on/injection severe on calves or is an oral dose better ?

    Hard call.
    If they are coughing much I’d play it safe and oral drench. Stressful enough time on them without over burdening them.


  • #9549
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,354 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    The oral drench paralyses the worms and the calf coughs them up gradually, the pour on kills them and if its a severe infection can be high burden and cause pneumonia.


  • #9550
    Mooooo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,577 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Have you dosed them before? I'd so the advice I think is to alternate products in terms of active ingredients. So if you gave them an ivermectin last time give a different one this time.


  • #9551
    Base price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Water John wrote: »
    The oral drench paralyses the worms and the calf coughs them up gradually, the pour on kills them and if its a severe infection can be high burden and cause pneumonia.
    We always used Levacide injection for calves/weanlings but unfortunately it appears to be off the market and cannot be sourced anymore. We never had a problem with calves getting pneumonia after using it. We used Levafas Diamond a few weeks ago but I was worried that we might have a problem with pneumonia but thankfully we didn't. It's very important use the correct volume of dose per animal.


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  • #9552
    I says
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭I says


    No Liverpool or united jerseys on display at underage football tonight.


  • #9553
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,020 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I says wrote: »
    No Liverpool or united jerseys on display at underage football tonight.

    Or man city :D


  • #9554
    I says
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭I says


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Or man city :D

    Who


  • #9555
    orm0nd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,359 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Base price wrote: »
    We always used Levacide injection for calves/weanlings but unfortunately it appears to be off the market and cannot be sourced anymore. We never had a problem with calves getting pneumonia after using it. We used Levafas Diamond a few weeks ago but I was worried that we might have a problem with pneumonia but thankfully we didn't. It's very important use the correct volume of dose per animal.

    one of the ingredients in Levafas Diamond is Levamisole , which is the same as levacide


  • #9556
    Base price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    orm0nd wrote: »
    one of the ingredients in Levafas Diamond is Levamisole , which is the same as levacide
    Over the years I've always heard of farmers been cautious about dosing with Levafas Diamond as it can trigger pneumonia. We have used it over the years for older bought in cattle but it is the first time that we used it on young stock.


  • #9557
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,491 ✭✭✭tanko


    Levicide injection is still available in vets.


  • #9558
    Base price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    tanko wrote: »
    Levicide injection is still available in vets.
    Is it now classed as V-POM or is that your Vet has old stock. Our Vet doesn't sell doses.


  • #9559
    CHOPS01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 785 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Have you dosed them before? I'd so the advice I think is to alternate products in terms of active ingredients. So if you gave them an ivermectin last time give a different one this time.

    Not dosed yet. Had planned on doing them with a pour on but wondered is a pour on too severe on 6/7 month old.


  • #9560
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,354 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    It seems its all about the burden load. I used pour on with bought in weanlings, some carrying a heavy stomach worm burden, no coughing and they were fine.
    Lungworm might have been a different matter.


  • #9561
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    I wormed all with pour on early august, drenched them today while weighing.
    Never drenched weanlings before, that was an experience :pac:

    Gave up with headlock gate & just got into the crush with them, much easier actually. Dad almost had a fit.


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  • #9562
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,354 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I have not used oral drench in a good while. Would the hook gun be an option? Better than getting up close and personal, which I have done also when younger.


  • #9563
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,020 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I says wrote: »
    No Liverpool or united jerseys on display at underage football tonight.

    Just home from a game. Will be a while before we have another one the way things are going :mad:


  • #9564
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Water John wrote: »
    I have not used oral drench in a good while. Would the hook gun be an option? Better than getting up close and personal, which I have done also when younger.

    I use the hook gun with the cows, don't think it would suit weanlings at all but have never tried it.
    They're just too...active...perhaps is the word, in the crush. Cows can't twist or turn etc.
    I just got in, arse/hip to square them in by backing them to top or bottom of crush, hand in gob to open mouth & drench.


  • #9565
    charolais0153
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Lady Haywire wrote: »
    I use the hook gun with the cows, don't think it would suit weanlings at all but have never tried it.
    They're just too...active...perhaps is the word, in the crush. Cows can't twist or turn etc.
    I just got in, arse/hip to square them in by backing them to top or bottom of crush, hand in gob to open mouth & drench.

    You get in the crush?


  • #9566
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,354 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    They'd have to be packed in. A big bullock or cow pushing from the back.

    A different trick which a Dept vet showed me was, when you want to leave some animals out of a crush and hold the rest, simply place the cover of a mineral bucket in front of their face and they won't move forward, cannot see the animal in front of them exiting.


  • #9567
    foxy farmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    Water John wrote: »
    They'd have to be packed in. A big bullock or cow pushing from the back.

    A different trick which a Dept vet showed me was, when you want to leave some animals out of a crush and hold the rest, simply place the cover of a mineral bucket in front of their face and they won't move forward, cannot see the animal in front of them exiting.

    I think I know the man you're on about. He did a herd test here 20 yrs ago. Animals not packed but would put the head between the ass of the animal in front and the wall. Hard to clip the neck or inject. Get a bucket lid and hold it in front of them and theyd stop their antics. Works a treat in fairness.


  • #9568
    148multi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭148multi


    Dosed them here with a hook drencher, load a cow first in the crush, apprentice keep's her backed up. A few muzzled for efficiency ðŸ˜


  • #9569
    Jb1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    148multi wrote: »
    Dosed them here with a hook drencher, load a cow first in the crush, apprentice keep's her backed up. A few muzzled for efficiency ðŸ˜

    Anti backing bar and head scoop, no help here.


  • #9570
    Mooooo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,577 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    I hop in with the calves as well, they were around the 200kg mark avg, use a 60ml syringe and someone outside filling it. Steelcap wellies. Bit like hurling if you hold back more likely to get caught. Heifers I'd catch individually in the head gate or use hook.


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  • #9571
    CHOPS01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 785 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    Looks like drench so. Worst thing is I've only the 4 calves ( they were a lockdowm project for the kids) so it'll be an expensive treatment as smallest quantities cover 20 plus similar animals from what I can see.


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