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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    She's an accomplished politician and you've fixated on her late 20s.

    So? It's possible to go after male politicians for wearing blackface in college (Did trudeu ever not wear it) or on account of some woman who rightly or wrongly makes allegations of abuse from 40 years back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    You gotta love that NBC , who absolutely loath TRump gave him a couple of hundred million.
    Anywhere between $200 million and $450 million , that NBC paid TRump during his time on The Apprentice.

    I mean how great is that as a piece of business, to get an organisation to give you hundreds of millions of dollars to sit behind a desk and tell people they are fired.
    And to think the looney left say he is a bad business man .

    NBC .. first lets give the guy a few hundred million, promote him , give him free advertising for his brand, effectively help make him President .. and then spend 4 years losing viewers as we do 24x7 attack dog mode... epic face plant for NBC.

    Not sure what any of this screed has to do with the findings of their polling or their poll methodology.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    So? It's possible to go after male politicians for wearing blackface in college (Did trudeu ever not wear it) or on account of some woman who rightly or wrongly makes allegations of abuse from 40 years back.

    Comparing apples and oranges really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    You gotta love that NBC , who absolutely loath TRump gave him a couple of hundred million.
    Anywhere between $200 million and $450 million , that NBC paid TRump during his time on The Apprentice.

    I mean how great is that as a piece of business, to get an organisation to give you hundreds of millions of dollars to sit behind a desk and tell people they are fired.
    And to think the looney left say he is a bad business man .

    NBC .. first lets give the guy a few hundred million, promote him , give him free advertising for his brand, effectively help make him President .. and then spend 4 years losing viewers as we do 24x7 attack dog mode... epic face plant for NBC.

    Erm, what this got to do with the poll?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,920 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Erm, what this got to do with the poll?

    Nothing

    But the poll doesn't paint his hero in a positive light so he has to post a pile of junk to try and take peoples attention away from it. Happening a lot lately, as soon as something negative about #IMPOTUS gets posted they flood the thread to take attention away.

    The dam is leaking so they are all trying to stick fingers in the leaks, fighting a losing battle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,671 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    A CNBC/Change Research poll conducted Tuesday and Wednesday found 53% of likely voters nationwide said Biden did a better job in the debate, compared with 29% for Trump.

    That'll do just fine.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    Erm, what this got to do with the poll?

    Its just great business, done by an epic business man .

    As they say Trump was the only President in history who moving into the White House was a downgrade on his living quarters..

    You seem to think the poll has something to do with who will win... so did Hilary and the main stream media in 2016..

    What a ride its been for nearly 4 years.
    4 years of watching the triggered snowflakes descend deeper and eeper into their TDS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Nothing

    But the poll doesn't paint his hero in a positive light so he has to post a pile of junk to try and take peoples attention away from it. Happening a lot lately, as soon as something negative about #IMPOTUS gets posted they flood the thread to take attention away.

    The dam is leaking so they are all trying to stick fingers in the leaks, fighting a losing battle.

    Weird.
    I don't even know a single thing about CNBC or even care for that matter.

    It's like someone getting the results of a football match and ranting about the TV network that reported them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Its just great business, done by an epic business man .

    As they say Trump was the only President in history who moving into the White House was a downgrade on his living quarters..

    You seem to think the poll has something to do with who will win... so did Hilary and the main stream media in 2016..

    What a ride its been for nearly 4 years.
    4 years of watching the triggered snowflakes descend deeper and eeper into their TDS

    Are you okay?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Its just great business, done by an epic business man .

    As they say Trump was the only President in history who moving into the White House was a downgrade on his living quarters..

    You seem to think the poll has something to do with who will win... so did Hilary and the main stream media in 2016..

    What a ride its been for nearly 4 years.
    4 years of watching the triggered snowflakes descend deeper and eeper into their TDS

    Thinly veiled throwing toys out of the pram cos Mr. Twump wost the debate cos he thought he was at a rally. Diddums


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,307 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    You gotta love that NBC , who absolutely loath TRump gave him a couple of hundred million.
    Anywhere between $200 million and $450 million , that NBC paid TRump during his time on The Apprentice.

    I mean how great is that as a piece of business, to get an organisation to give you hundreds of millions of dollars to sit behind a desk and tell people they are fired.
    And to think the looney left say he is a bad business man .

    NBC .. first lets give the guy a few hundred million, promote him , give him free advertising for his brand, effectively help make him President .. and then spend 4 years losing viewers as we do 24x7 attack dog mode... epic face plant for NBC.

    The same goes the other way. Trump despises NBC and yet NBC made an absolute fortune off pretending Trump was a good business man.

    The money made by NBC off Trump dwarfs the money Trump made from it. They didn't pay any production costs for the show and even got some of the in show advertising when the ratings fell off a cliff.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    The same goes the other way. Trump despises NBC and yet NBC made an absolute fortune off pretending Trump was a good business man.

    The money made by NBC off Trump dwarfs the money Trump made from it. They didn't pay any production costs for the show and even got some of the in show advertising when the ratings fell off a cliff.

    ahh thats desperation
    your saying a guy who got somewhere between $200 million and $400million dollars to sit behind a table and say your fired got the raw end of the deal...

    hilarious .. how much do you think he should have gotten ?
    How much do you think a person should get to sit behind a table and say your fired...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,307 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    ahh thats desperation
    your saying a guy who got somewhere between $200 million and $400million dollars to sit behind a table and say your fired got the raw end of the deal...

    hilarious .. how much do you think he should have gotten ?
    How much do you think a person should get to sit behind a table and say your fired...

    Desperation :confused:

    So you're saying NBC didn't make an absolute fortune out of Trump? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Would it be correct to say Trump generated a huge fortune for NBC?


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Desperation :confused:

    So you're saying NBC didn't make an absolute fortune out of Trump? :confused:

    NBC : Mr TRump we would like to give you $200million or maybe $400 million to sit behind a desk and say your fired..

    Looney left : Trumps a bad business man.

    thats the epitome of desperation .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,036 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I havent read them, I'm not aware of them.

    Post a link to them and I will give you my opinion.

    Here you go. I'd like your opinion on this.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/08/joe-biden-tara-reade-sexual-assault-claim-megyn-kelly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Bring your fresh cup of tea



    Ted Cruz demonstrates that all Trump's campaign has to run on these days are deflections and ad hominems. Ted couldn't seem to consider anything else in this interview besides Gov. Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo's brother.

    edit: video pulled as I was watching it. whoops. Uh, go look for this 20 minute interview, this is the first 10 mins,

    https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/chris-cuomo-and-ted-cruz-lob-fireballs-at-each-other-in-20-minute-clash-youre-going-to-go-with-that-weak-ass-argument/


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    So this is a battle of 2 septuagenarians.

    Exhibit A
    One one side a man who lived in a Tower on the most expensive street in the world. A Tower that was named after him . A Tower his company built.
    He vacations in Mar-E-Lago, a resort that was once gifted to the US Government as a potential vacation home for sitting US Presidents.
    A man who not only plays golf, but owns some of the best courses in the world.
    A man who restored the US Post Office GPO in Washington, an architectural gem, to have it ready for the 2016 US Presidential inauguration, little did he know it would be his own inauguration
    A man who had the most beautiful women in the world all competing to be in his Pageant.
    A man who predicted in 1988 that if he ran for President he would probably win.
    A man who in 1988 had 30,000 people working under him.
    A man who was given between $200 and $400 million dollars by NBC to sit behind a desk and say 'youre fired'
    A man who in 47 months has done more than most people in 47 years of government.

    Exhibit B
    Joe Biden , a septuagenarian.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Overheal wrote: »
    Bring your fresh cup of tea

    Video is blocked, here's an image as proof

    https://imgur.com/Fb6qWo4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,994 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    So this is a battle of 2 septuagenarians.

    Exhibit A
    One one side a man who lived in a Tower on the most expensive street in the world. A Tower that was named after him . A Tower his company built.
    He vacations in Mar-E-Lago, a resort that was once gifted to the US Government as a potential vacation home for sitting US Presidents.
    A man who not only plays golf, but owns some of the best courses in the world.
    A man who restored the US Post Office GPO in Washington, an architectural gem, to have it ready for the 2016 US Presidential inauguration, little did he know it would be his own inauguration
    A man who had the most beautiful women in the world all competing to be in his Pageant.
    A man who predicted in 1988 that if he ran for President he would probably win.
    A man who in 1988 had 30,000 people working under him.
    A man who was given between $200 and $400 million dollars by NBC to sit behind a desk and say 'youre fired'
    A man who in 47 months has done more than most people in 47 years of government.

    Exhibit B
    Joe Biden , a septuagenarian.

    correction: A tower he named after himself. and he has pissed away most of the NBC money has a minimum of 400M of debt maturing very soon


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,307 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    NBC : Mr TRump we would like to give you $200million or maybe $400 million to sit behind a desk and say your fired..

    Looney left : Trumps a bad business man.

    thats the epitome of desperation .

    I never said it was a bad deal for Trump, being paid to pretend to be a good business man is the role he was born to play.

    I simply pointed out Trump that he also made a huge amount of money for NBC, a company he hates. NBC polished up a turd and made a fortune from it, the turd did pretty well out of it as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 934 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    So this is a battle of 2 septuagenarians.

    Exhibit A
    One one side a man who lived in a Tower on the most expensive street in the world. A Tower that was named after him . A Tower his company built.
    He vacations in Mar-E-Lago, a resort that was once gifted to the US Government as a potential vacation home for sitting US Presidents.
    A man who not only plays golf, but owns some of the best courses in the world.
    A man who restored the US Post Office GPO in Washington, an architectural gem, to have it ready for the 2016 US Presidential inauguration, little did he know it would be his own inauguration
    A man who had the most beautiful women in the world all competing to be in his Pageant.
    A man who predicted in 1988 that if he ran for President he would probably win.
    A man who in 1988 had 30,000 people working under him.
    A man who was given between $200 and $400 million dollars by NBC to sit behind a desk and say 'youre fired'
    A man who in 47 months has done more than most people in 47 years of government.

    Exhibit B
    Joe Biden , a septuagenarian.

    You're the right little fanboy arent ye lol. You might want to add multiple failed businesses, multiple accusations of sexual assault and total ineptitude at getting policies he ran on enacted into legislation whilst at the same time f***king up royally the response to the pandemic. But who really cares about people dying. How do we fix it. Sure another rally. That'll do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    One one side a man who lived in a Tower on the most expensive street in the world. A Tower that was named after him .

    What relevance is this to voters?
    A Tower his company built.

    Not actually. It was built by Costas Kondylis and WSP Cantor Seinuk and financed by 2 German lenders: Deutsche Bank and BHV.
    He vacations in Mar-E-Lago, a resort that was once gifted to the US Government as a potential vacation home for sitting US Presidents.

    Why do voters care?
    A man who not only plays golf, but owns some of the best courses in the world.

    Squandering your Apprentice money on golf courses is of what benefit to the voters?
    A man who restored the US Post Office GPO in Washington, an architectural gem, to have it ready for the 2016 US Presidential inauguration, little did he know it would be his own inauguration


    Which has been routinely used as a vehicle for funneling emoluments to the President. Something which would have impeached any other POTUS a dozen times over, but not Trump with this Senate.
    A man who had the most beautiful women in the world all competing to be in his Pageant.

    What relevance is this to the election
    A man who predicted in 1988 that if he ran for President he would probably win.

    Everyone who plans on running for the office plans on winning.
    A man who in 1988 had 30,000 people working under him.

    What relevance is this now? In 2020 he was also in charge of a crisis which saw 30,000,000+ people lost their jobs and over 205,000 lose their lives.
    A man who was given between $200 and $400 million dollars by NBC to sit behind a desk and say 'youre fired'

    What relevance is this to the election?
    A man who in 47 months has done more than most people in 47 years of government.

    Prove this?

    Amazing how this line is trotted out when Trump hasn't even been in office 47 months.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,477 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    coolbeans wrote: »
    Thinly veiled throwing toys out of the pram cos Mr. Twump wost the debate cos he thought he was at a rally. Diddums

    If you do not want to debate in a civil manner I will remove your posting privileges


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,950 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    NBC : Mr TRump we would like to give you $200million or maybe $400 million to sit behind a desk and say your fired..

    Looney left : Trumps a bad business man.

    thats the epitome of desperation .

    He’s not a bad businessman for making that 400m. He’s a bad business man for pumping it into a business that’s losing money hand over fist. That 400m is gone, plus another billion or so he owes to Deutsche bank and a few Russian banks.

    He’s a skint conman.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Brian? wrote: »
    He’s not a bad businessman for making that 400m. He’s a bad business man for pumping it into a business that’s losing money hand over fist. That 400m is gone, plus another billion or so he owes to Deutsche bank and a few Russian banks.

    He’s a skint conman.

    the infographs are pretty breathtaking on this score:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes-timeline.html

    Which just reinforces another salient point in this election: Donald Trump and his debts and his inexorable ties to his businesses and those debts make him a national security risk. Debt is the #1 thing foreign actors will prey on and its among the most common ways security clearance can be denied, is disproportionate amounts of debt. That's why the Emoluments Clause is such a big deal and I am still baffled the scheme he has at the Trump DC Hotel has been left to go on for so long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,110 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Brian? wrote: »
    He’s not a bad businessman for making that 400m. He’s a bad business man for pumping it into a business that’s losing money hand over fist. That 400m is gone, plus another billion or so he owes to Deutsche bank and a few Russian banks.

    He’s a skint conman.

    Running a business at a loss can be deliberately done and done on the advice of an accountant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,808 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Danzy wrote: »
    Running a business at a loss can be deliberately done and done on the advice of an accountant.

    FFS. But, *the majority of them*? Maybe this is why only Russians (per Eric) invest in him? And as the Times articles detailed, they get 'comps' as a result with WH-related appointments and intimate access to the inside of the USG. As well as goons like Duterte and Erdogan. Everything's for sale as long as it keeps money flowing into the #IMPOTUS' pockets.

    When the #IMPOTUS ran his Atlantic City Casinos into the ground, the Banks had to decide just how tight to squeeze him. As was reported, they put him on an allowance so he could keep up impressions.

    "Everything Trump touches, dies." Especially true in his business dealings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Danzy wrote: »
    Running a business at a loss can be deliberately done and done on the advice of an accountant.

    He wasn't elected to run the country at a loss!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Overheal wrote: »
    He wasn't elected to run the country at a loss!

    But did it anyway


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