Female, LGBTQI+ or People of Colour Mods

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 5:03pm #1

Is there any Female, LGBTQI+ (Outside that forum) or People of Colour Mods?

The tone of the men creates a hostile environment and they all seem to back each other up.

Allowing new registered posters free reign on using the word ‘retard’ and the vilest objectification of women.

Is boards the place diversity left behind?

I bring this up as I feel it’s a very intimidating place because of the toxic masculinity on display.

osarusan · 30-09-2020 5:07pm

This seems like kneejerk reaction stuff to mod decisions you disagreed with.

You come across as very very overwrought, I have to say.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 5:09pm

osarusan wrote: »

This seems like kneejerk reaction stuff to mod decisions you disagreed with.

You come across as very very overwrought, I have to say.

Thank you for your contribution.

I just feel if a man told me how to speak or how to respond to him in the real world before I retired I’d have a case with HR.

Would these men speak to their colleagues like this in work?

It’s intimidating.

For a place that has so many topics about the above, there is a distinct lack of voices from such, and if a woman gets a bit uppity she's shot down.

Gatling · 30-09-2020 5:44pm

Oh dear

Piehead · 30-09-2020 5:50pm

Sterling Worried Mackerel wrote: »

Thank you for your contribution.

I just feel if a man told me how to speak or how to respond to him in the real world before I retired I’d have a case with HR.

Would these men speak to their colleagues like this in work?

It’s intimidating.

For a place that has so many topics about the above, there is a distinct lack of voices from such, and if a woman gets a bit uppity she's shot down.

I think the mods are doing a fine job and this type of woke witch-huntery needs to cease

southstar · 30-09-2020 5:52pm

Sterling Worried Mackerel wrote: »

Is there any Female, LGBTQI+ (Outside that forum) or People of Colour Mods?

The tone of the men creates a hostile environment and they all seem to back each other up.

Allowing new registered posters free reign on using the word ‘retard’ and the vilest objectification of women.

Is boards the place diversity left behind?

I bring this up as I feel it’s a very intimidating place because of the toxic masculinity on display.

Good God...is there any escape from this victim blather???

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 5:53pm

Gatling wrote: »

Oh dear

Thank you for your contribution.

TomTomTim · 30-09-2020 5:54pm

Sterling Worried Mackerel wrote: »

Is there any Female, LGBTQI+ (Outside that forum) or People of Colour Mods?

The tone of the men creates a hostile environment and they all seem to back each other up.

Allowing new registered posters free reign on using the word ‘retard’ and the vilest objectification of women.

Is boards the place diversity left behind?

I bring this up as I feel it’s a very intimidating place because of the toxic masculinity on display.

I'm sure you have a wealth of explicit examples to show us.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 5:56pm

Piehead wrote: »

I think the mods are doing a fine job and this type of woke witch-huntery needs to cease

Thank you for your contribution.

I'm glad you find the mods agreeable.

Out of curiosity, Can you relate to being female, LGBTQTIA+ or being a person of colour?

I don't believe it's a witch hunt, it's not yet October

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 5:57pm

southstar wrote: »

Good God...is there any escape from this victim blather???

Thank you for your contribution.

I'd like to understand why you think having a more diverse panel of mods relates to 'victim blather'?

Irish Aris · 30-09-2020 5:58pm

Although I think you are very frustrated at the moment (and to an extend I can understand why), I think you need to take a deep breath and try not to make this a personal crusade.

I was intrigued by your dispute resolution thread (although I'm not sure you understand how the dispute resolution works in here) and I had a quick look at the thread that caused it. To be honest, I could vaguely understand the 2 sides of the argument but not much else made sense - and frankly that includes you. It was like a contest on who would make the most ridiculous comment and as a neutral on the subject I would be very hard pressed to agree to any point that any poster would make in it.

You need to remember though that this is an anonymous online forum where people can try to say whatever idea or opinion they have. The more you engage with people that have a different opinion than you (or worse are there to troll people) the more likely it is to lose the run of yourself and fall at that level. As it was mentioned before in the other feedback thread, the best way is to use the report a post button whenever you think someone really crosses the line - but certainly not every time you disagree with someone. If I were to do that, I would be reporting dozens of posts and mods (who are volunteers) would rightly think that I'm taking the piss. It is important that we, as users, avail of the report button wisely - because the moderators are volunteers in a very busy forum and we should try to help them make use of their time as best as possible.

On your question on whether there are Female, LGBTQI+ or People of Colour Mods: I think I know the answer, but I don't think it is for me or any other user to say one way or another. And I'm not sure if it really matters.

I hope this doesn't come across as condescending, it certainly isn't my intention. Somewhere among the bickering of that thread, I think you were trying to express some interesting ideas, but you got lost in the sniping and nothing really made sense. Probably you won't agree with me but sometimes it might worth not engaging when discussions get to that point.

TomTomTim · 30-09-2020 5:59pm

The most amusing part about your hysterics is the fact that the thread that has aggrieved you most had a large number of female posters, which makes your claims even more ridiculous.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 5:59pm

TomTomTim wrote: »

I'm sure you have a wealth of explicit examples to show us.

Thank you for your contribution.

I don't think I need to show it, it's quite revealing on the forum.

I think it would be more productive if people ceased the behaviour than questioning the person who experiences it. Just my opinion.

30-09-2020 6:03pm

How can you be intimidated by random anonymous people?

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 6:06pm

Irish Aris wrote: »

Although I think you are very frustrated at the moment (and to an extend I can understand why), I think you need to take a deep breath and try not to make this a personal crusade.

I was intrigued by your dispute resolution thread (although I'm not sure you understand how the dispute resolution works in here) and I had a quick look at the thread that caused it. To be honest, I could vaguely understand the 2 sides of the argument but not much else made sense - and frankly that includes you. It was like a contest on who would make the most ridiculous comment and as a neutral on the subject I would be very hard pressed to agree to any point that any poster would make in it.

You need to remember though that this is an anonymous online forum where people can try to say whatever idea or opinion they have. The more you engage with people that have a different opinion than you (or worse are there to troll people) the more likely it is to lose the run of yourself and fall at that level. As it was mentioned before in the other feedback thread, the best way is to use the report a post button whenever you think someone really crosses the line - but certainly not every time you disagree with someone. If I were to do that, I would be reporting dozens of posts and mods (who are volunteers) would rightly think that I'm taking the piss. It is important that we, as users, avail of the report button wisely - because the moderators are volunteers in a very busy forum and we should try to help them make use of their time as best as possible.

On your question on whether there are Female, LGBTQI+ or People of Colour Mods: I think I know the answer, but I don't think it is for me or any other user to say one way or another. And I'm not sure if it really matters.

I hope this doesn't come across as condescending, it certainly isn't my intention. Somewhere among the bickering of that thread, I think you were trying to express some interesting ideas, but you got lost in the sniping and nothing really made sense. Probably you won't agree with me but sometimes it might worth not engaging when discussions get to that point.

Thank you for such a kind open and honest contribution.

Your words resonated with me because it does feel like you are banging your head against a wall.

I understand people are entrenched but the toxicity makes you question is this the world I am living in. I have been relatively shielded from such toxicity all my life bar the unmarried mothers civil service seventies rule.

I understand how you can see both sides and respect you for your honesty.

Maybe I've lived too sheltered a life, yes I admit to being very upset by the use of the word retard.

I know I probably will be kicked off the site but it means little to me, I have my child to care for and while I enjoyed the Aldi thread and such if losing access to that means i can just ask the question I have then it's worth it.

Thank you again and I found your post thoughtful not at all condescending. xx

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 6:07pm

TomTomTim wrote: »

The most amusing part about your hysterics is the fact that the thread that has aggrieved you most had a large number of female posters, which makes your claims even more ridiculous.

Thank you for the contribution.

I don't believe that registrations this month focused on trans issues are women.

TheValeyard · 30-09-2020 6:07pm

Mods should be selected on their ability to mod, remain calm, keep an open mind and not take things personally.

Race, religion, colour, status, political views, should not play any part of the process.

Piehead · 30-09-2020 6:08pm

Sterling Worried Mackerel wrote: »

Thank you for your contribution.

I'm glad you find the mods agreeable.

Out of curiosity, Can you relate to being female, LGBTQTIA+ or being a person of colour?

I don't believe it's a witch hunt, it's not yet October

Thank you also for your contribution. Yeah thought I was an A (asexual) until I finally managed to get my hands on some lass’s baps ! Then I wasn’t A anymore

Purple Mountain · 30-09-2020 6:09pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

Mods should be selected on their ability to mod, remain calm, keep an open mind and not take things personally.

Race, religion, colour, status, political views, should not play any part of the process.

Agreed because then it's just quota filling.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 6:14pm

Deleted User wrote: »

How can you be intimidated by random anonymous people?

Thank you for your contribution.

Someones tone, someone who is forceful or dominating in telling you how to explain yourself.

I've been told how to write or how not to write.

I'm retired 5 years (early I must add) and that way of speaking to people wouldn't have been tolerated in my experience.

I know this isn't a professional environment but when the balance of power is not equal it's easy to feel intimidated for me.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 6:15pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

Mods should be selected on their ability to mod, remain calm, keep an open mind and not take things personally.

Race, religion, colour, status, political views, should not play any part of the process.

Thank you for your contribution

I respectfully will have to disagree. I don't think a moderator requires any explicit skills so the more diversity among the group the better in my opinion.

EmmetSpiceland · 30-09-2020 6:23pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

Mods should be selected on their ability to mod, remain calm, keep an open mind and not take things personally.

Race, religion, colour, status, political views, should not play any part of the process.

I, personally, think that when a “regular user” becomes a mod they should be given a new mod account. When they are “on the clock” they wouldn’t post opinions in any thread, or thank any posts.

This would allow threads to “flow” and would remove any perceived “bias”. Members would get carded or banned without knowing who the moderator, in question, was on the site.

Another upside would be that the lame “mod humour” would disappear from those ‘where are you now/what are you eating’ type threads. Mods would simply be mods and could focus on the task at hand.

Obviously, it’s not a perfect “solution” but it would be a start.

Timberrrrrrrr · 30-09-2020 6:27pm

Sterling Worried Mackerel wrote: »

Is there any Female, LGBTQI+ (Outside that forum) or People of Colour Mods?

The tone of the men creates a hostile environment and they all seem to back each other up.

Allowing new registered posters free reign on using the word ‘retard’ and the vilest objectification of women.

Is boards the place diversity left behind?

I bring this up as I feel it’s a very intimidating place because of the toxic masculinity on display.

Maybe boards just isn't for you?

You are one poster on a forum of many thousands, yet you want everyone to change their style of posting to make you feel better.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 6:29pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

I, personally, think that when a “regular user” becomes a mod they should be given a new mod account. When they are “on the clock” they wouldn’t post opinions in any thread, or thank any posts.

This would allow threads to “flow” and would remove any perceived “bias”. Members would get carded or banned without knowing who the moderator, in question, was on the site.

Another upside would be that the lame “mod humour” would disappear from those ‘where are you now/what are you eating’ type threads. Mods would simply be mods and could focus on the task at hand.

Obviously, it’s not a perfect “solution” but it would be a start.

Thank you for your contribution.

That in my opinion would help also.

Esel · 30-09-2020 6:31pm

Sterling Worried Mackerel wrote: »

That in my opinion would help also.

Why didn't you thank this poster for their contribution?

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 6:34pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Maybe boards just isn't for you?

You are one poster on a forum of many thousands, yet you want everyone to change their style of posting to make you feel better.

Thank you for your contribution.

Yes, I have questioned this lately when faced with the opening page.

I have enjoyed the company some threads have provided.

I just feel the little communities fostered in other sections of the site are let down by the content of others because and it's just my hypothesis, the site isn't very diverse. When people from other backgrounds come on they have to face a barrage of hatred.

It's funny you mention style rather than content because my style of posting as in actual style not content has been asked to change.

I don't want people to change their style, I would like that the content especially the ones that I have to face everyday logging in is a bit better quality than continuous obsession with trans people and genitalia.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 6:37pm

NormanNicetouch wrote: »

If she's a leftie lesbian she's probably very very overweight as well.

Thank you for your contribution.

Not lesbian.

Not very overweight.

Not a leftie.

Not going to report your uncivilised comment though it breaches the 'Don't be a dick' rule.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 6:39pm

Esel wrote: »

Why didn't you thank this poster for their contribution?

I thought I hit copy and paste but it didn't land Sorry

Esel · 30-09-2020 6:41pm

Esel wrote: »

Why didn't you thank this poster for their contribution?

Thank you for thanking my post. It confirmed my suspicions.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 6:44pm

Esel wrote: »

Thank you for thanking my post. It confirmed my suspicions.

What's your suspicions?

I thanked you for pointing out something to me.

muffler · 30-09-2020 6:48pm

Sterling Worried Mackerel wrote: »

I bring this up as I feel it’s a very intimidating place because of the toxic masculinity on display.

If you dont like the place then close the door gently on your way out.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 6:50pm

muffler wrote: »

If you dont like the place then close the door gently on your way out.

Thank you for your contribution and for reinforcing my point.

Esel · 30-09-2020 6:51pm

I could be wrong, but to me "Thank you for your contribution" in the context of this thread comes across as being sarcastic and passive-aggressive.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 6:53pm

Esel wrote: »

I could be wrong, but to me "Thank you for your contribution" in the context of this thread comes across as being sarcastic and passive-aggressive.

I'm trying to be polite and validate every contribution even the horrible ones.

Tom Mann Centuria · 30-09-2020 6:53pm

I don't like the word retard, I don't particularly like the way one thread on AH has indeed become sleazy but I don't think either is an indication of any particular problem on boards.

I don't think it's any different from any other website, in fact it's considerably less problematic for the reasons you outline op, than most other sites I can think of.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 7:01pm

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

I don't like the word retard, I don't particularly like the way one thread on AH has indeed become sleazy but I don't think either is an indication of any particular problem on boards.

I don't think it's any different from any other website, in fact it's considerably less problematic for the reasons you outline op, than most other sites I can think of.

Thank you for your contribution.

That's a really good word to describe the thread.

This is my second run in with a moderator and the other time it was ignored when i criticised what I see as bias in the mods.

Maybe posters are right. Maybe the site is not for me.

I hate, honestly hate, seeing that thread on the opening page consistently and the, as you said, sleazy content, it's upsetting and I am not trans I can't imagine what it's like to be trans or the family of a trans person who has to see that.

I come here to talk about Aldi products, i know boring, maybe it's not my place as a moderator has suggested to pose suggestions but perhaps the constant questioning of minorities can be relegated to a forum where they don't appear on the opening page.

Fr_Dougal · 30-09-2020 7:06pm

Sterling Worried Mackerel wrote: »

Thank you for your contribution and for reinforcing my point.

It feels like you might be part of the problem. You’re assuming gender of posters and mods alike.

Tom Mann Centuria · 30-09-2020 7:08pm

Sterling Worried Mackerel wrote: »

Thank you for your contribution.

That's a really good word to describe the thread.

This is my second run in with a moderator and the other time it was ignored when i criticised what I see as bias in the mods.

Maybe posters are right. Maybe the site is not for me.

I hate, honestly hate, seeing that thread on the opening page consistently and the, as you said, sleazy content, it's upsetting and I am not trans I can't imagine what it's like to be trans or the family of a trans person who has to see that.

I come here to talk about Aldi products, i know boring, maybe it's not my place as a moderator has suggested to pose suggestions but perhaps the constant questioning of minorities can be relegated to a forum where they don't appear on the opening page.

But what site would you feel happy on, because if you go to Reddit, it's worse, Twitter it's worse. General sites are always going to have something you might want to avoid. I like reddit, but search new on the front page and it can be a sewer. Twitter is as good/bad as who you follow, but also who they follow or interact with, who you might object to, can appear on your timeline.

Follow the forums you like and just click straight on that tab, then hopefully you'll enjoy the site more.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 7:13pm

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

It feels like you might be part of the problem. You’re assuming gender of posters and mods alike.

Thank you for your contribution.

My point being that dissenting voices aren't welcome?

I'd like to know how you view me as part of the problem unless the problem is having someone disagree.

Most are open about their gender and sexuality.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 7:16pm

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

But what site would you feel happy on, because if you go to Reddit, it's worse, Twitter it's worse. General sites are always going to have something you might want to avoid. I like reddit, but search new on the front page and it can be a sewer. Twitter is as good/bad as who you follow, but also who they follow or interact with, who you might object to, can appear on your timeline.

Follow the forums you like and just click straight on that tab, then hopefully you'll enjoy the site more.

Thank you for your contribution and advice.

I think because this is Boards the self-proclaimed largest online community in Ireland i expect more. Maybe my life has been to sheltered.

hullaballoo · 30-09-2020 7:16pm

It's funny. In all the years I've been an admin and in all the mods I have been involved in appointing and of all of the questions I have asked of mods, never have I even thought to ask what their sexuality, gender or race was.

And now that I start down the long road of thinking about it, I am struggling to find any reason whatsoever why I ever would consider asking those questions.

I suppose those aspects of moderators' lives will have to remain a mystery to me, unless of course these things have some kind of fundamental relevance to my consideration of their judgment or character, which seems to be the inevitable conclusion on this path.

Tom Mann Centuria · 30-09-2020 7:20pm

Sterling Worried Mackerel wrote: »

Thank you for your contribution and advice.

I think because this is Boards the self-proclaimed largest online community in Ireland i expect more. Maybe my life has been to sheltered.

I just think the internet, even in the mainstream, is generally a much darker and seedier place than boards.

Only you can really decide if boards is a place you want to post/read though.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 7:23pm

hullaballoo wrote: »

It's funny. In all the years I've been an admin and in all the mods I have been involved in appointing and of all of the questions I have asked of mods, never have I even thought to ask what their sexuality, gender or race was.

And now that I start down the long road of thinking about it, I am struggling to find any reason whatsoever why I ever would consider asking those questions.

I suppose those aspects of moderators' lives will have to remain a mystery to me, unless of course these things have some kind of fundamental relevance to my consideration of their judgment or character, which seems to be the inevitable conclusion on this path.

Thank you for your contribution.

I think then that's a shame and I feel it's sad for moderators like JoeyParrot for example.

Is it because Boards.ie sees it's social obligation filled by having a forum for LGBTQIA+ but when threads spread into the main pages it's different.

I think a lack of diverse voices is evident on the forums if even you are uncomfortable with it.

It reminds me of people who say I don't see colour, which is very easy for a white person to say.

Do you not think the obsession with trans peoples genitalia is, sleazy, to rob the word from another poster?

Does it ever cross your mind that Boards isn't a welcoming place for women, LGBTQI+ (Outside that forum) or People of Colour?

Beasty · 30-09-2020 7:31pm

There's a place on this site for pretty much everyone except for those who simply want to stir things

The site caters for probably close to a complete range of topics, and posters often find personal "gems" among particularly some of the less active forums

When it comes to the larger forums there is much more of a tendency to consider posts in light of forum specific rules. Two particular forums that immediately come to mind are Politics and Soccer - two very different forums but for very good reason having quite strict rules and typically very experienced mods

Others like AH and Current Affairs cater for discussion in a more "laid back" form. Yes civility is expected and there is more of a tendency for some posters to troll in such forums

When it comes to choosing mods, there are several hundred already in place. Some very experienced, some less so, and with some of those "smaller" forums they may hardly ever have to deal with issues within the relevant forums. That highlights there is no "one size fits all" in terms of the characteristics of moderation and indeed moderators

One thing we will never ask a prospective mod is anything about their sex/sexuality, religion, race, age etc. All posters on this site are entitled to their anonymity and that applies equally to moderators. If posters and or mods choose to reveal such personal information that is entirely up to them. However we are not in a position (nor would ever want to) "verify" such statements

As is stated repeatedly, particularly in Feedback, we are all unpaid volunteers. There are 2 "verified" staff, Niamh and Mark, who you will see on occasion along with some of the site developers. They are the only people who "work" on the site and get paid for doing so

So OP, in suggesting more diversity, and given the parameters I've set out, firstly you (and we) can never "know" what backgrounds moderators come from (although we may be able to make educated guesses) and given we all do this for no personal reward, it's also a case of "beggars cannot be choosers" to some extent. We will look for certain characteristics in posts and posting styles, but have no other meaningful "data" to go on

cdeb · 30-09-2020 7:32pm

I think you come across a bit racist by suggesting that, say, black people would make better moderators than white people. (And similarly with your other labels)

This kind of categorising of people is deeply unhelpful. Would it not be better to see everyone as people rather than focusing on the colour of their skin? Because to focus purely on skin colour isn't diversity, it's literally the definition of racism.

I don't think the skin colour/gender/sexual orientation of moderators is any of your business to be quite honest.

Dravokivich · 30-09-2020 7:32pm

Don't you dare thank me for my contribution as its anything but!

What do you think would change from a moderation perspective based on gender, orientation or race?

What makes either of these any more likely to be sympathetic qualities? As this seems to be the basis of your OP.

banie01 · 30-09-2020 7:37pm

Are genitalia or gender now on display as part of a Mod's Sig?
Reducing your dissatisfaction with a Mod's opinion to a belief of gender bias?
Really?

Fúck me that's a stretch.
In a medium that removes gender, accent, visual cueing and race from being an immediate concern or trigger...

You are claiming sleight?

I've seen a lot of stupid posts on boards, but often they are part of an overarching performance, like Songhua, or Mr Feg.
Is this what your post intends OP?

To shine a light on the stupidity of gender shaming on a forum where gender is generally a guess?

Gatling · 30-09-2020 7:39pm

I beginning to think we're looking at one of bigger wind ups on boards for a while ,
Look at the toxic masculinity but I'm a little old dear who's lived a sheltered ,
Suddenly I want mods based on their sexualities and race and ethnicity , beliefs.

It's such a shame this is allowed to continue

30-09-2020 7:43pm

I do think that a diverse team of mods isn't in itself an inherently bad concept

But going about aiming for it, and how you ensure it, is- as always with these things- the kicker

I also think that the suggestion is stronger made when not such an obvious swipe at the existing mods while in a sitewide tantrum tbh

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 7:43pm

Beasty wrote: »

There's a place on this site for pretty much everyone except for those who simply want to stir things

The site caters for probably close to a complete range of topics, and posters often find personal "gems" among particularly some of the less active forums

When it comes to the larger forums there is much more of a tendency to consider posts in light of forum specific rules. Two particular forums that immediately come to mind are Politics and Soccer - two very different forums but for very good reason having quite strict rules and typically very experienced mods

Others like AH and Current Affairs cater for discussion in a more "laid back" form. Yes civility is expected and there is more of a tendency for some posters to troll in such forums

When it comes to choosing mods, there are several hundred already in place. Some very experienced, some less so, and with some of those "smaller" forums they may hardly ever have to deal with issues within the relevant forums. That highlights there is no "one size fits all" in terms of the characteristics of moderation and indeed moderators

One thing we will never ask a prospective mod is anything about their sex/sexuality, religion, race, age etc. All posters on this site are entitled to their anonymity and that applies equally to moderators. If posters and or mods choose to reveal such personal information that is entirely up to them. However we are not in a position (nor would ever want to) "verify" such statements

As is stated repeatedly, particularly in Feedback, we are all unpaid volunteers. There are 2 "verified" staff, Niamh and Mark, who you will see on occasion along with some of the site developers. They are the only people who "work" on the site and get paid for doing so

So OP, in suggesting more diversity, and given the parameters I've set out, firstly you (and we) can never "know" what backgrounds moderators come from (although we may be able to make educated guesses) and given we all do this for no personal reward, it's also a case of "beggars cannot be choosers" to some extent. We will look for certain characteristics in posts and posting styles, but have no other meaningful "data" to go on

Thank you for your contribution.

I suppose it boils down to boards not being a welcoming place for some people as I've outlined. Has there been a week in the last however many years that transpeople haven't been off the main page?

It's well and good to say these things don't matter but when they are a barrier then it's problematic.

I want to say as openly and honesty as I can the way you lead your contribution with

"There's a place on this site for pretty much everyone except for those who simply want to stir things".

The implication is that I am a 'stirrer' and the people I disagree with who use the sleaziest of language, who name call me, aren't.

That is a common theme I've noticed on the forum as I explore the site, I don't always contribute to the threads I read, I just want recommendations on Aldi products.

Yet the pull to take a stand for voices that aren't here who are constantly reduced to their genitalia is strong.

I'm sorry mods don't like my style, whatever that is, but respectfully I think mods should focus on content more and clean up the obsession with trans people and genitalia.

A poster summed it up and understood my frustrations. It would be nice and reassuring that just once the mods, the active mods on these topics understood the frustration seeing such hateful, sleazy and spiteful things on the threads.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5 · 30-09-2020 7:44pm

cdeb wrote: »

I think you come across a bit racist by suggesting that, say, black people would make better moderators than white people. (And similarly with your other labels)

This kind of categorising of people is deeply unhelpful. Would it not be better to see everyone as people rather than focusing on the colour of their skin? Because to focus purely on skin colour isn't diversity, it's literally the definition of racism.

I don't think the skin colour/gender/sexual orientation of moderators is any of your business to be quite honest.

I can't thank an All Lives Matter contribution. Asking for equality doesn't make me a racist.

Female, LGBTQI+ or People of Colour Mods

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