General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

fullstop · 27-09-2020 02:54PM

The handball rule is an absolute farce. How the **** do you jump for a header with your hands by your side? Dier with his back to the ball and it’s headed at him FFS

TitianGerm · 27-09-2020 02:54PM

Mushy wrote: »

Injury time penalty

Newcastle haven't even hit the target today!!

GoldFour4 · 27-09-2020 02:54PM

Ridiculous.

Mushy · 27-09-2020 02:55PM

TitianGerm wrote: »

Newcastle haven't even hit the target today!!

They have now. Some stat for the season...3 shots on target, 3 goals

TitianGerm · 27-09-2020 02:56PM

fullstop wrote: »

The handball rule is an absolute farce. How the **** do you jump for a header with your hands by your side? Dier with his back to the ball and it’s headed at him FFS

It's the same for everyone. That penalty for Everton yesterday was the same. His arm was down by his side and he wasn't even looking at the ball.

bennyx_o · 27-09-2020 02:56PM

Think it was Alan Smith that said it on commentary on the match - you'll soon have attackers aiming at the arms of defenders if it's that easy to get a penalty these days, it's farcical

Morpork · 27-09-2020 02:57PM

As a Newcastle fan I'm saddened that's been given as a penalty. It's a terrible decision/rule. It's not what football needs and something should be done to change things.

gimli2112 · 27-09-2020 02:58PM

and yet only in England is it a nonsense, afaik

Harry Palmr · 27-09-2020 02:59PM

The game's gone Bill.

TitianGerm · 27-09-2020 03:00PM

Morpork wrote: »

As a Newcastle fan I'm saddened that's been given as a penalty. It's a terrible decision/rule. It's not what football needs and something should be done to change things.

This is the rule from UEFA isn't it? It's going to be harsh on everyone equally.

In fairness to the refs they all seem to be on the same page bar the one that wasn't given against Arsenal (I think) last week.

DM_7 · 27-09-2020 03:00PM

Handball stuff is mad. Looked a bit dodgy in normal time but in the replay it was clear that he had no idea where the ball was, his arm was only up as part of jumping.

fullstop · 27-09-2020 03:01PM

TitianGerm wrote: »

It's the same for everyone. That penalty for Everton yesterday was the same. His arm was down by his side and he wasn't even looking at the ball.

I know it’s the same for everyone, but it’s a complete joke. I didn’t see the match yesterday but the penalties given against Doherty and Lindelof (or was it Maguire) last week were bad enough, the one today is even worse. Like if you can’t jump for a header, how are you supposed to defend crosses? Every time there’s a block now you have the attacking team claiming handball just because they might get a lucky penalty. Newcastle did it twice at the end and got lucky with one of them. It’s farcical.

Too Tough To Die · 27-09-2020 03:03PM

bennyx_o wrote: »

Think it was Alan Smith that said it on commentary on the match - you'll soon have attackers aiming at the arms of defenders if it's that easy to get a penalty these days, it's farcical

I'm pretty sure Kane tried just that in this game. Awful rule. Idiots.

ShamoBuc · 27-09-2020 03:03PM

It really is beyond a joke at this stage.

Osmosis Jones · 27-09-2020 03:04PM

Back in 2015 or so referees opened the season with the decision to enforce rules around shirt-pulling inside the box far more harshly, they did so for about 3 weeks before getting bored of it and realising how much of a mess it was, all we can do is hope the same happens here.

adaminho · 27-09-2020 03:05PM

gimli2112 wrote: »

and yet only in England is it a nonsense, afaik

https://twitter.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/1310232466158956544

Osmosis Jones · 27-09-2020 03:05PM

Also the uncalled Havertz handball yesterday was infinitely more impactful than Dier's today.

(Yes I understand the phase of play rules, I just think they're idiotic)

Mr.Crinklewood · 27-09-2020 03:15PM

If anyone had "boxes" in a drinking game..... they're ****ed.

gimli2112 · 27-09-2020 03:17PM

time to rejig the FF team, penalty takers only

chips1234 · 27-09-2020 03:18PM

how players are gonna start jumping for headers

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Shanotheslayer · 27-09-2020 03:20PM

How much is Krul worth in todays market for his Penalty saves ? :pac:

Turtyturd · 27-09-2020 03:21PM

Tough decision for Spurs ...also have man u next week so it’s not going to get any easier.

Morzadec · 27-09-2020 03:21PM

TitianGerm wrote: »

This is the rule from UEFA isn't it? It's going to be harsh on everyone .

Flicking a coin at the start of the match and decreeing that the winner of the toss gets a 1 goal head start would also be equally harsh on everyone.

Doesn't stop it being an awful rule that adds an element of luck to the game that destroys the game.

Disgusted with these decisions, ruining the game.

Richard Hillman · 27-09-2020 03:21PM

This is what all of these pundits and football managers wanted. They wanted consistency and the laws cleared up. Now they want to go back to interpretations, how they can moan about consistency again.

It's not the law makers that are to blame. Its TV Pundits and Football managers. It's TV Companys who's half time and post match coverage revolves entirely around refereeing decisions. I watch a lot of different sports. Pretty much anything bar GAA and Sycronised swimming but no other sport speaks about Refereeing decisions more than football. It's not even close.

If they want to go back to common sense, stop haranguing the referees.

Kiith · 27-09-2020 03:25PM

And this is the "free kick" that led to the penalty call. What an absolute cluster****.

https://twitter.com/HenrikGranly9/status/1310233562998870017?s=19

RasTa · 27-09-2020 03:25PM

David Elleray, the former top-flight official and Harrow schoolmaster, has overseen well over 100 law amendments since becoming IFAB’s technical director in 2016, right down to how to take a kick-off (you can now pass it backwards) and, the following year, where to stand (you’re allowed in the opposition half — which, naturally, made passing it backwards easier).

Some of the changes have been for the better. Allowing players to stand in their own penalty area when a keeper takes a goal kick, for example, has encouraged teams to pass out from the back. But you’ll struggle to find many players, managers, referees or supporters who think that IFAB has got it anywhere near right when it comes to the handball rule. “It’s just a mess,” says one source.

I knew someone English would be involved.

ongarite · 27-09-2020 03:35PM

That's a cracking finish. Right in the postage stamp!

Turtyturd · 27-09-2020 03:35PM

That didn’t take long.

Shanotheslayer · 27-09-2020 03:36PM

Belter

razorblunt · 27-09-2020 03:48PM

The thing about the handball and VAR reviews is that they can’t even consistently fûck it up, nothing against DCL and Mount yesterday and then the likes of Dier and award being given.

General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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