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F1 2020 :Round 10 Russian GP Sochi (See MOD note on post4)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Bottas telling everyone on boards - ‘**** you’.

    Imagine it was Hamilton etc etc
    The reason of critique of the the two drivers is very different though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭Harika


    skipper_G wrote: »
    Absolutely losing it at Bottas giving it the big un on the radio, to his critics FU. He won the race because of the penalty, this win doesn't magically turn him into anything other than a number 2. Still not good enough to be World Champion

    You have to adore crofty for selling it as possible streak


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Harika wrote: »
    Driver of the day, joke. None of the top 3 should be there. Perez, Leclerc, Kyvat, gasly, giovanazzi all should be in front of them
    The joke is the vote closes at the end of the race and not 15 or 30 minutes after.
    If a driver does something super in the last 5 or so laps it obviously wont count for much towards the vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Shouldn’t they be interviewing Lewis before Max??


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    lewis went into the FIA garage ....???


  • Registered Users Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Dampsquid


    Lewis lost the race yesterday with having to use soft tyres in Q2.

    I dont think it would have made much of a difference with not having the 10s

    He wasnt held up when he came back out from the pits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    Sky cut the coverage before Bottas talked. Idiots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    "A massive Bee hit my visor" Driver excuse of the week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    I do enjoy seeing a salty Hamilton interview.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Sky cut the coverage before Bottas talked. Idiots.
    What are you watching?
    Having even gone to ad break yet on SKY F1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,689 ✭✭✭This is it


    Delighted for LeClerc, dragging that car through the race and grabbing a few points


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Bottas now has the same number of race wins (9) as Max. He matches another famous number 2 driver Mark Webber. Still someway behind the greats, Massa & Barrichello (11) and Coulthard (13). Another year in the best formula 1 car ever and he might catch up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    There's the 3 KGB lads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    There's the 3 KGB lads.

    Was just thinking that they looked pretty ominous with the suits and masks :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Indestructable


    What are you watching?
    Having even gone to ad break yet on SKY F1

    They cut away on Sky Main Event


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Ferrari clearly just given up on this car, only adding updates created by the work experience lads/gals back at the factory.

    All focus on the 2022 car, or at least you hope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Another good weekend for AlphaTauri too with both drivers in the points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    What are you watching?
    Having even gone to ad break yet on SKY F1

    Must have been on main event


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Still a meh race but a bit more incident than a usual Russian GP at least


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Lewis thinks FIA are out to get him and stop him winning races


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  • Registered Users Posts: 621 ✭✭✭weekaizer


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Lewis thinks FIA are out to get him and stop him winning races

    Yeah yeah. Another excuse to ‘rise above it all’.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Lewis thinks FIA are out to get him and stop him winning races
    The "man" has been against Hamilton since the start, the guy with 6 World titles and 90 wins


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    toto making a tit of himself there. "lewis penalised harshly"

    the penalties are the same ones others get for the same offences.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    What did Bottas say? My son turned it off at the chequered flag!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    antodeco wrote: »
    What did Bottas say? My son turned it off at the chequered flag!

    "To my critics, to whom it may concern - f**k you"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,292 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Lewis thinks FIA are out to get him and stop him winning races

    I've heard a rumour they won't distinguish between Michael and Mick Schumacher in the hope that Lewis won't stay top of the GP wins when he gets there.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    I've heard a rumour they won't distinguish between Michael and Mick Schumacher in the hope that Lewis won't stay top of the GP wins when he gets there.

    I've also heard they've got 4 arses and are terrified of stamps


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭RunningFlyer


    Completely agree re the professionalism of Ricciardo on the radio on learning his penalty vs. Hamilton.

    Also, did anyone else notice that after parking in the paddock and getting weighed, Hamilton took items from the no.1 podium stall before entering the garage? Bottas was standing behind him I guess thinking 'WTF?' and appeared to slam the gloves on the stall when Hamilton finally moved off. It's stuff like that that highlights the arrogance sometimes in why he might be disliked (similar to grabbing the 1st place trophy off the podium a few weeks ago).

    In terms of the race itself, I thought it was probably the most boring so far this season.

    EDIT: just wanted to add I'm not trying to Hamilton-bash here, in case anyone thinks Im trying! Just don't think he is doing himself any favours with how he (re)acts when things don't go his way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,564 ✭✭✭weisses


    Cool_CM wrote: »
    "To my critics, to whom it may concern - f**k you"

    Driving the best car the least couple of years.... Only 9 wins, being critical of him is justified ... This is the second time he spouted this nonsense, He didn't get any better after the first time


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    The 2 penalty points for Hamilton have been removed and replaced with a €25k fine for the team


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    skipper_G wrote: »
    The 2 penalty points for Hamilton have been removed and replaced with a €25k fine for the team

    Ouch. They will feel that.

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Tzardine wrote: »
    Ouch. They will feel that.

    :rolleyes:

    In a way its a shame as if he incurred 1 more point before mid Nov he was banned for a race, would have perhaps gone some way to potentially opening up the WDC.

    If I was Hamilton I would be pissed at my team if they had not properly briefed me on the rules, which given he asked Bono the question before doing the test starts implies they dropped the ball!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    skipper_G wrote: »
    The 2 penalty points for Hamilton have been removed and replaced with a €25k fine for the team

    Yeah they were talking about that on BBC 5 live and how close Hamilton is to 12 points and a race ban. They're not trivial rule breaks either. But they made the point that it's not good for the champion to be banned so they'll make sure he isn't banned if they can do it... And they have done it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Inquitus wrote: »
    In a way its a shame as if he incurred 1 more point before mid Nov he was banned for a race, would have perhaps gone some way to potentially opening up the WDC.

    If I was Hamilton I would be pissed at my team if they had not properly briefed me on the rules, which given he asked Bono the question before doing the test starts implies they dropped the ball!

    This came up a few years ago in an interview with Hamilton and Vettel. Hamilton said about how he always gets penalties like the one where he crosses the pit exit line and for a penalty but he didn't know about that rule.
    Vettel said "Yeah but it was in the drivers briefing that we all got".
    Hamilton "what? You sit down and read the whole briefing?"
    Vettel "of course, don't you?

    I really don't see Hamilton as a details guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭ro_chez


    weekaizer wrote: »
    Yeah yeah. Another excuse to ‘rise above it all’.

    Of course, he thinks he's the reincarnation of Senna

    Been driving the most dominant car in the history of the sport for the best part of a decade and believes his own hype

    I'm sure he is making a camparison to 1989


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,253 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Nice to see "the Twitch gang" going wheel to wheel for real.
    https://twitter.com/F1/status/1310299111049003018?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,299 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Well apart from the beginning that was the most boring race of the season so far. Thankfully Hamilton hot penaultys or it would have been even more boring. Disapointed that Renault and Riccardo did not get a podium. That was probably there best chance. Verstappen done great. Was the best driver all weekend and he really deserved to win the race but 2nd is good

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,016 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    I see Hamilton was quick to play the victim card with "they are trying to stop me". no Lewis, you just broke the rules. Anytime he's got a penalty this season it's been perfectly justifiable for the rule he broke. Ricciardo was a perfect example today, admitted he made a mistake, apologies to the team and just gets on with the race


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    This came up a few years ago in an interview with Hamilton and Vettel. Hamilton said about how he always gets penalties like the one where he crosses the pit exit line and for a penalty but he didn't know about that rule.
    Vettel said "Yeah but it was in the drivers briefing that we all got".
    Hamilton "what? You sit down and read the whole briefing?"
    Vettel "of course, don't you?

    I really don't see Hamilton as a details guy.

    What I couldn't believe was that Hamilton somehow didn't know he'd have to serve the penalty at his pit stop rather than it being added on at the end. If I, and presumably most other people watching the race know that, then surely you'd expect a driver to know that too?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Zaph wrote: »
    What I couldn't believe was that Hamilton somehow didn't know he'd have to serve the penalty at his pit stop rather than it being added on at the end. If I, and presumably most other people watching the race know that, then surely you'd expect a driver to know that too?

    Yeah that's just motivated reasoning. People are prone to it. For such a talented and high performing guy, he's really not very smart.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Would miss Brundle on commentary even if he's 10 years past his best. Would have known the 10 seconds applies at the end only if there isn't a pitstop and is always banging on about not being allowed do practice starts outside of the pitlane. Mentioned at a few circuits it's a pain because the designated area would be on a different slope than the start/finish straight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    This race today had thrown up some really interesting outcomes into the mix re: the penalties.

    Everything that was in motion on the track today was not so easy for the drivers out there. Although there have been some sparks of terrific driving from George Russell, Giovannzzi, LeClerc, Riccarrdo (even though he got a penalty; the way in how he dealt with it in comparison to Hamilton was brilliant).

    The reply from Bottas on the team radio when he won the race today was out of the ordinary to some degree. I would assume that he had shocked his fanbase with how he dealt with it to some extent. How he will translate the tone of his win to racing on the Nurburgring in 2 weeks time is another story to tell.

    The same outcome is also applied to Hamilton as well because I don't know how they will cope with trying to extend their momentum in the next race at the Nurburgring in 2 weeks time. It could also become a blessing of some sorts for Hamilton to win 91 GP's on Michael Schumacher's home soil. It could feel like it would all fall into place when he does it.

    But to get there; he has to behave himself when he gets to race in Germany this year. Last year's race in the rain at Hockenheim wasn't so good for him at all. I would assume that all of you still remember how that race went for Hamilton don't you? It was described as one of the best F1 races on last year's calendar. But it was an absolute disaster for Hamilton to gain only 2 points for the Mercedes team & for Bottas having a DNF. For their strategy to work well in Germany this time; they would need to have clear heads because it is crucial to let those moments of teamwork to shine through again to get some form of control back in their driving. Otherwise if they don't focus on having things going their way again like last year; their whole efforts for going for the win on October 11th may all fall apart to bits if the outcomes not work out for them on the track.

    That's why I think Nurburgring this year could be something special for all of the F1 drivers out there in 2 weeks time. It come bring out some great results for the drivers that will go on to race there & savour the feeling of the track once they arrive. It is also one of the most iconic racetracks in F1 history. It has a legend status that has stood the test of time for many years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭ro_chez


    That's why I think Nurburgring this year could be something special for all of the F1 drivers out there in 2 weeks time. It come bring out some great results for the drivers that will go on to race there & savour the feeling of the track once they arrive. It is also one of the most iconic racetracks in F1 history. It has a legend status that has stood the test of time for many years.

    Are you sure your not thinking of the Nordschleife?

    The Nurburgring is just your bog standard FIA approved, concrete runoff circuit, same as any other racetrack that F1 competes on.

    The Merc will still be 1 second ahead of everone else


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭rock22


    ro_chez wrote: »
    Are you sure your not thinking of the Nordschleife?

    The Nurburgring is just your bog standard FIA approved, concrete runoff circuit, same as any other racetrack that F1 competes on.

    The Merc will still be 1 second ahead of everone else

    The Nordschleife is the long loop of the Nürburgring


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,217 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    rock22 wrote: »
    The Nordschleife is the long loop of the Nürburgring
    Yes but F1 wont be going there and hasnt for over 50 years.
    Same as when they ruined hockenheim.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,135 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Lewis doesnt seem to know a helluva lot.

    He relies a ridiculous amount on Bono to spoon feed him through races. And often his whinging is so bad it leads to Vowles having to answer him aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Joeface


    the only thing about going there is the Current forecast is 5deg C at race start .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,299 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I have to laugh. Lewis in his post race interview saying he had done practice starts millions of times before and never been punished for it. I doubt he has done that many. He has raced in 259 maybe 260 races in his F1 career to date and even If that included 4 race practice starts for each of them then he might have done it a little over 1000 times actually 1040 times to be exact going by my sums.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭johnnysmack


    AMKC wrote: »
    I have to laugh. Lewis in his post race interview saying he had done practice starts millions of times before and never been punished for it. I doubt he has done that many. He has raced in 259 maybe 260 races in his F1 career to date and even If that included 4 race practice starts for each of them then he might have done it a little over 1000 times actually 1040 times to be exact going by my sums.

    Jesus christ it's just a phrase. Nobody expected anyone to be so pedantic as to work out the maths of how many he's actually done. It's like if you said you were so hungry you could eat a horse and then someone started breaking it down saying that isn't possible.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    Past his best? Lol what

    Ya don't think so? Watching races from 15-20 years ago he was much more of a straight shooter, he's much more careful about what he says now. Also he seems to have accepted the position of bantz-mate with Crofty unfortunately.


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