FF/FG/Green Next Government

Yurt2 · 26-09-2020 08:29PM

For some reason, the B.O.Ts garbled diatribes remind me of that scene from Alan Partridge, where Alan dressed in platform shoes and leather underpants gives a lapdance to two IRA men...

"Scary Irish men! Would you like to recruit me? I like your berets. They're worn by Saddam Hussein, Frank Spencer and the French"

Truthvader · 26-09-2020 08:31PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

This isn't a 'normal' society, it is a post conflict/war society.
An NO I never said all would be rosy in a UI...ever.

And I said YOU guys would discriminate and exclude SF if you got your way. For one of you an allegation s enough to convict...that is discrimination.

Look to your vices/bias here. You are as bad as any unionist ever was.

Again. How. Are. They. Discriminated against. Or. Excluded??????????????????????????????????!?????

Yurt2 · 26-09-2020 08:31PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Again. How. Are. They. Discriminated against. Or. Excluded??????????????????????????????????!?????

I think one question mark would have done the job there.

FrancieBrady · 26-09-2020 08:34PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Again. How. Are. They. Discriminated against. Or. Excluded??????????????????????????????????!?????

I said you guys would discriminate against and exclude if you got your way. READ the fecking posts...don't make up stuff like others do.

Truthvader · 26-09-2020 08:43PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I said you guys would discriminate against and exclude if you got your way. READ the fecking posts...don't make up stuff like others do.

More nonsense. Have yet to see a singal post making the case that any Sinn Fein candidate no matter how thuggish or retarded should not be allowed stand for election. Some people just dont want to vote for them. Its called democracy. Its an alternative to murdering your way to power.

FrancieBrady · 26-09-2020 08:48PM

Truthvader wrote: »

More nonsense. Have yet to see a singal post making the case that any Sinn Fein candidate no matter how thuggish or retarded should not be allowed stand for election. Some people just dont want to vote for them. Its called democracy. Its an alternative to murdering your way to power.

Why would you need to see a post?

Truthvader · 26-09-2020 08:58PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Why would you need to see a post?

And goodnight

Nobotty · 26-09-2020 09:10PM

They're excluded from government (I presume its Sinn Féin as I'm not going back reading crap) despite being the largest vote.
That because there's a majority elected from other parties
They'd need another 10% which while its in some polls would be notoriously difficult to turn into reality as it means mining the middle
All bets are off in my opinion with this pandemic though

Yurt2 · 26-09-2020 10:03PM

Well as we can see the FG B.O.Ts have covered themselves in glory yet again this evening.

Let's do a quick walk-through of who they've insulted / demeaned during this shift:

- Northern nationalists
- the working class
- the intellectually disabled (very classy from TrashVader)

* Bonus points for blanch for low-key threatening that he knows who someone is in real life.

Consistency in a world gone mad.

blanch152 · 26-09-2020 10:04PM

Yurt! wrote: »

Well as we can see the FG B.O.Ts have covered themselves in glory yet again this evening.

Let's do a quick walk-through of who they've insulted / demeaned during this shift:

- Northern nationalists
- the working class
- the intellectually disabled (very classy from TrashVader)

* Bonus points for blanch for low-key threatening that he knows who someone is in real life.

Consistency in a world gone mad.

Yawn, more twisting.

Yurt2 · 26-09-2020 10:17PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Yawn, more twisting.

Ah you poor thing. Anyone else you'd like to slyly suggest you'd dox or just Francie, Poirot?

dundalkfc10 · 26-09-2020 11:41PM

The Sinn Féin thread still going strong

Nobotty · 27-09-2020 07:23AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

The Sinn Féin thread still going strong

Don't be rising to it

dundalkfc10 · 27-09-2020 11:57AM

Nobotty wrote: »

Don't be rising to it

I'm not i find it amusing no matter what the topic is, Sinn Féin always get mentioned. Guess that's what happens when your the biggest party on the island

smurgen · 27-09-2020 12:16PM

I'm sure him being a landlord had no interference at all on his advice against the ban on rent increases and evictions lol.

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1310180877624803328?s=19

Floppybits · 28-09-2020 09:56AM

Another FG lad off to work for a lobbying group.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1310490550139867136

FrancieBrady · 28-09-2020 10:12AM

Floppybits wrote: »

Another FG lad off to work for a lobbying group.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1310490550139867136

Calling their boys home?

Bishop of hope · 28-09-2020 10:47AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Calling their boys home?

Sounds like it doesn't it.
Look at the bonanza SF is missing out on!

FrancieBrady · 28-09-2020 11:36AM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Sounds like it doesn't it.
Look at the bonanza SF is missing out on!

Yes Bish...another FGer whose work is done and has gone to his earthly rewards.

Once again it can be said, not a great look for FG.

smurgen · 28-09-2020 12:28PM

Fair play to this man.

https://twitter.com/RepKevinBoyle/status/1310500138352336896?s=19

dundalkfc10 · 28-09-2020 01:19PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Yawn, more twisting.

Any explanation for your thinking that SF and the DUP have caused most issues on the island with Covid?

You seemed to drop it when everyone pissed themselves laughing at you

blanch152 · 28-09-2020 01:51PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Any explanation for your thinking that SF and the DUP have caused most issues on the island with Covid?

You seemed to drop it when everyone pissed themselves laughing at you

I never expressed that opinion, just more twisting on your part.

dundalkfc10 · 28-09-2020 01:58PM

blanch152 wrote: »

I never expressed that opinion, just more twisting on your part.

Did you not nó?

""The SF/DUP government is putting the whole island at risk. They can't seem to make any decisions. When they do, they are a week behind the rest of the island. Incompetent fools."

blanch152 · 28-09-2020 02:13PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Did you not nó?

""The SF/DUP government is putting the whole island at risk. They can't seem to make any decisions. When they do, they are a week behind the rest of the island. Incompetent fools."

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Any explanation for your thinking that SF and the DUP have caused most issues on the island with Covid?

You seemed to drop it when everyone pissed themselves laughing at you

If you can't see the difference between the two sentences, that is not my problem.

Has the SF/DUP government handled the Covid-19 crisis much worse than the various Irish governments? Undoubtedly.

Does that put the whole island at risk? Yes, of course it does.

Does that mean the SF/DUP government have casued most issues on the island with Covid-19? Absolutely not, because most issues have been caused by people not obeying the rules.

I think you were a little premature in getting excited over one of my posts.

nc6000 · 28-09-2020 02:14PM

smurgen wrote: »

I'm sure him being a landlord had no interference at all on his advice against the ban on rent increases and evictions lol.

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1310180877624803328?s=19

That's just ridiculous. How does someone get to a position like AG and not know when they've a vested interest which should be declared? :rolleyes:

dundalkfc10 · 28-09-2020 02:22PM

blanch152 wrote: »

If you can't see the difference between the two sentences, that is not my problem.

Has the SF/DUP government handled the Covid-19 crisis much worse than the various Irish governments? Undoubtedly.

Does that put the whole island at risk? Yes, of course it does.

Does that mean the SF/DUP government have casued most issues on the island with Covid-19? Absolutely not, because most issues have been caused by people not obeying the rules.

I think you were a little premature in getting excited over one of my posts.

I'd say the Irish Govt have caused serious issues on the island too, Still no proper testing and tracing, still not enough ICU beds, ****ed up re-opening of the country, Golfgate, Still no control of airports or ferry terminals, trying to close down the Dáil cause of 1 suspected case which is not the procedure in everyone else's workplace, cutting the PUP payment which they now seem like they will swap back (How many U turns is that now) No fines or convictions for people who break rules, something the North are well on top of.

blanch152 · 28-09-2020 02:31PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

I'd say the Irish Govt have caused serious issues on the island too, Still no proper testing and tracing, still not enough ICU beds, ****ed up re-opening of the country, Golfgate, Still no control of airports or ferry terminals, trying to close down the Dáil cause of 1 suspected case which is not the procedure in everyone else's workplace, cutting the PUP payment which they now seem like they will swap back (How many U turns is that now) No fines or convictions for people who break rules, something the North are well on top of.

I will just address a couple of these

The travel restrictions into Northern Ireland are much less than the travel restrictions into Ireland.
Golfgate is small compared to the farce of the fake funeral.
There is no PUP payment in the Northern Ireland comparable to the generous one in Ireland
Testing capacity in Ireland is greater per 100,000 population than in Northern Ireland and much more testing has been carried out.
Depending on which statistic you rely on, ICU bed capacity is similar or greater in Ireland than Northern Ireland adjusted for population.
Shutting down a parliament for half a day for a potential positive case is better than shutting it down for three years over a Languages Act.

As I said the record of the SF/DUP government on Covid-19 is far worse than the various Irish governments.

dundalkfc10 · 28-09-2020 02:55PM

blanch152 wrote: »

I will just address a couple of these

The travel restrictions into Northern Ireland are much less than the travel restrictions into Ireland.
Golfgate is small compared to the farce of the fake funeral.
There is no PUP payment in the Northern Ireland comparable to the generous one in Ireland
Testing capacity in Ireland is greater per 100,000 population than in Northern Ireland and much more testing has been carried out.
Depending on which statistic you rely on, ICU bed capacity is similar or greater in Ireland than Northern Ireland adjusted for population.
Shutting down a parliament for half a day for a potential positive case is better than shutting it down for three years over a Languages Act.

As I said the record of the SF/DUP government on Covid-19 is far worse than the various Irish governments.

Why not compare us to a similar sized country like Denmark?

Our Govt have ****ed up with Covid.

There is no restrictions in airports, I travelled abroad twice (Green List Country Poland qnd to visit a relative in Portugal) I done what was asked when I came home, but I was under no obligation too and never received 1 phone call to follow up on where I was staying in Ireland (I did in Poland and Portugal though)

The Govt reduced the PUP payment and as they got it wrong are going to increase it. The UK's Covid pay rates have nothing to do with payments here (and are controlled by Westminster but sure you knew that)

We don't have adequate ICU beds in the 26 counties, again how many beds they have in 6 counties has no affect on us having not enough.

It was shut down in error and reinstated only when MM realised he and his Govt had made a balls of things, again nothing to do with SF/DUP

You can't asw every question with well it's worse up North

blanch152 · 28-09-2020 03:09PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Why not compare us to a similar sized country like Denmark?

Our Govt have ****ed up with Covid.

There is no restrictions in airports, I travelled abroad twice (Green List Country Poland qnd to visit a relative in Portugal) I done what was asked when I came home, but I was under no obligation too and never received 1 phone call to follow up on where I was staying in Ireland (I did in Poland and Portugal though)

The Govt reduced the PUP payment and as they got it wrong are going to increase it. The UK's Covid pay rates have nothing to do with payments here (and are controlled by Westminster but sure you knew that)

We don't have adequate ICU beds in the 26 counties, again how many beds they have in 6 counties has no affect on us having not enough.

It was shut down in error and reinstated only when MM realised he and his Govt had made a balls of things, again nothing to do with SF/DUP

You can't asw every question with well it's worse up North

You want to have it both ways, compare us to countries who did it better, so that you can criticise the Irish government, but don't compare us to the North, where the SF/DUP government have been much worse, even though one of those parties wants to be in government here.

The SF/DUP government comparison is the most relevant, as if we have to change our government, we will be getting a government with SF in it. If they are doing a much worse job up North, then the conclusion to be drawn is to be careful what you wish for. Not only that, but the North is the closest to us in terms of culture, society, etc. so makes for a better comparison.

FrancieBrady · 28-09-2020 03:18PM

blanch152 wrote: »

You want to have it both ways, compare us to countries who did it better, so that you can criticise the Irish government, but don't compare us to the North, where the SF/DUP government have been much worse, even though one of those parties wants to be in government here.

The SF/DUP government comparison is the most relevant, as if we have to change our government, we will be getting a government with SF in it. If they are doing a much worse job up North, then the conclusion to be drawn is to be careful what you wish for. Not only that, but the North is the closest to us in terms of culture, society, etc. so makes for a better comparison.

You have just inflated the size of the problems in the north to engage some more in your macabre competition.
I can just imagine guys like you awaiting the daily figures.

How you can compare a number of party members breaking regulations at a funeral with Golfgate which cost 8 people their positions is bizarre tbh.

FF/FG/Green Next Government

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