Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings

Penfailed · 25-09-2020 07:22PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

Am I silly thinking the government won't do another national lockdown? It'd be economic suicide.

Once the first one ended, I thought that there's no way they'll go back to that. Now? I'm not so sure.

funnydoggy · 25-09-2020 07:23PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Once the first one ended, I thought that there's no way they'll go back to that. Now? I'm not so sure.

I bloody hope not anyway. Christmas 2020 would be miserable.

alentejo · 25-09-2020 07:26PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Once the first one ended, I thought that there's no way they'll go back to that. Now? I'm not so sure.

Two things - If other Euro countries do full national lockdowns, maybe the government might consider!

I think, if numbers fall or plateau over the next 2/3 weeks, cant imagine there would be a lockdown.

If Ireland is an outlier and does a full lockdown while other euro counties don't, Ireland would be loaded with additional debt and would place Ireland at a longterm comparative disadvantage!

AUDI20 · 25-09-2020 07:35PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

I bloody hope not anyway. Christmas 2020 would be miserable.

Haven't you heard, Christmas 2020 is cancelled due to Covid!!!!!

hmmm · 25-09-2020 07:43PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

Am I silly thinking the government won't do another national lockdown? It'd be economic suicide.

They will have to if they have no choice, no government can allow hospitals to be overrun - just look at Israel. Our hospitalisation numbers and ICU need to level off. We should hopefully see the results of what is happening in Dublin in the next week or so.

Thankfully we're not as bad as parts of Europe where clearly restrictions were relaxed too quickly. We need to dig in for Winter, it's up to each of us to do our bit, and hopefully we can get rapid testing and vaccines in 2021 which will allow us to claw our way out of this.

JRant · 25-09-2020 07:51PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

Am I silly thinking the government won't do another national lockdown? It'd be economic suicide.

Of course they won't. They will probably place each county at level 5 but that definitely won't be a country wide lockdown, no sireee.

With all the PR people, sorry "special advisors", they'll keep reminding us that it's not a country wide lockdown and we are all very very naughty.

PTH2009 · 25-09-2020 07:57PM

JRant wrote: »

Of course they won't. They will probably place each county at level 5 but that definitely won't be a country wide lockdown, no sireee.

With all the PR people, sorry "special advisors", they'll keep reminding us that it's not a country wide lockdown and we are all very very naughty.

Level 4/5 are essentially national lockdowns bar the schools/collages are still open

walus · 25-09-2020 08:15PM

hmmm wrote: »

Thankfully we're not as bad as parts of Europe where clearly restrictions were relaxed too quickly. We need to dig in for Winter, it's up to each of us to do our bit, and hopefully we can get rapid testing and vaccines in 2021 which will allow us to claw our way out of this.

The thing is hmmm, that restrictions in Ireland were relaxed way too late. There was a time from June to August to open up the country more than we did. We didn’t do that, the hospitals were deserted and staff sent home. Now they will have to deal with the regular annual derivatives of flu as well as C19. It is not going to be pretty. I hope they are all rested and prepared.

We could have gotten the increase in hospital admissions and dealt with it in the summer instead of now. Nphet and this government have no ability whatsoever to consider multiple of factors going forward and anticipate the future. They only came out with a long term plan in September, which only proves my point.

MadYaker · 25-09-2020 08:19PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Once the first one ended, I thought that there's no way they'll go back to that. Now? I'm not so sure.

I still don’t think it’s an option currently. We won’t know until next week. It may become more or less likely depending on hospital admissions / cases.

Plumbthedepths · 25-09-2020 08:25PM

walus wrote: »

The thing is hmmm, that restrictions in Ireland were relaxed way too late. There was a time from June to August to open up the country more than we did. We didn’t do that, the hospitals were deserted and staff sent home. Now they will have to deal with the regular annual derivatives of flu and C19. It is not going to be pretty. I hope they are all rested and prepared.

We could have gotten the increase in hospital admissions and deal with it in the summer instead of now. Nphet and this government have no ability whatsoever to consider multiple of factors going forward and anticipate the future. They only came out with a long term plan in September, which only proves my point.

And the long term plan didn't even last till tea time of the same day before it started to unravel

walus · 25-09-2020 08:42PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

And the long term plan didn't even last till tea time of the same day before it started to unravel

Exactly. One could go as far and say that the government has lost the support of people for restrictions throughout the summer. They did not communicate what the strategy was, made a mess of green list and fcuk up people travels and holidays for what? They really set themselves up for what is happening now. It does not matter what level of restrictions we are in, none of it is enforceable anyway and the young portion of population, those people who will ultimately pay for all of this, have run out of patience. It is time the government thought about them too.

25-09-2020 08:45PM

walus wrote: »

The thing is hmmm, that restrictions in Ireland were relaxed way too late. There was a time from June to August to open up the country more than we did. We didn’t do that, the hospitals were deserted and staff sent home. Now they will have to deal with the regular annual derivatives of flu as well as C19. It is not going to be pretty. I hope they are all rested and prepared.

We could have gotten the increase in hospital admissions and dealt with it in the summer instead of now. Nphet and this government have no ability whatsoever to consider multiple of factors going forward and anticipate the future. They only came out with a long term plan in September, which only proves my point.

Couldn’t be more wrong, it’s the exact opposite in fact. We should have held the strict lockdown for far longer at least another month or two and really drive down cases. If it was coupled with closing the airports and ports we could have really go the virus on the back foot. There was still too much of it around when they started opening up and thus it was able to get a foot hold, helped considerably by people who refused to keep away from meeting others in groups, going to houses, not social distancing etc.

Ginger n Lemon · 25-09-2020 08:52PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Couldn’t be more wrong, it’s the exact opposite in fact. We should have held the strict lockdown for far longer at least another month or two and really drive down cases. If it was coupled with closing the airports and ports we could have really go the virus on the back foot. There was still too much of it around when they started opening up and thus it was able to get a foot hold, helped considerably by people who refused to keep away from meeting others in groups, going to houses, not social distancing etc.

Some sort of eternal battle with covid what you are describing there.

Nox, our new cases were 4, 5, 9, 11, 3, 7, 18, 6, 17 in July.

Why do you think if these numbers were 0, we would be safe from covid now - end of Sept when flu season starts next month? You dont really think we'd be sharpest of cats on the planet to keep covid out of our country do you?

Dtp1979 · 25-09-2020 08:53PM

It’s probably been asked a thousand times but what is the closing times of the pubs now that all pubs are back open?

JRant · 25-09-2020 08:54PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Level 4/5 are essentially national lockdowns bar the schools/collages are still open

Dublin will be L4 next week and the rest of the country L3. The media spin has already started this week to lay the ground work.

JRant · 25-09-2020 08:57PM

Dtp1979 wrote: »

It’s probably been asked a thousand times but what is the closing times of the pubs now that all pubs are back open?

Think it's half past concerned o'clock.

Dtp1979 · 25-09-2020 09:04PM

JRant wrote: »

Think it's half past concerned o'clock.

That’s helpful. Thanks.
Anybody with an actual time?

hynesie08 · 25-09-2020 09:33PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Couldn’t be more wrong, it’s the exact opposite in fact. We should have held the strict lockdown for far longer at least another month or two and really drive down cases. If it was coupled with closing the airports and ports we could have really go the virus on the back foot. There was still too much of it around when they started opening up and thus it was able to get a foot hold, helped considerably by people who refused to keep away from meeting others in groups, going to houses, not social distancing etc.

Cool, then what?

John_Rambo · 25-09-2020 09:37PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Couldn’t be more wrong, it’s the exact opposite in fact. We should have held the strict lockdown for far longer at least another month or two and really drive down cases. If it was coupled with closing the airports and ports we could have really go the virus on the back foot. There was still too much of it around when they started opening up and thus it was able to get a foot hold, helped considerably by people who refused to keep away from meeting others in groups, going to houses, not social distancing etc.

Then we'd be right where we are now next month. That's just kicking the can down the road. Lockdown was right for when it was and how little we knew. We know more now, we know it's down to personal responsibility and C-hygiene. (my new word)

manniot2 · 25-09-2020 09:40PM

AUDI20 wrote: »

Haven't you heard, Christmas 2020 is cancelled due to Covid!!!!!

Can you imagine the shaming they are going to do to anyone that tries to enjoy Xmas this year. It will be like the summer holidays again where people were shamed into cancellling their flights to Spain.

MadYaker · 25-09-2020 09:59PM

JRant wrote: »

Dublin will be L4 next week and the rest of the country L3. The media spin has already started this week to lay the ground work.

Is it because of media spin or hospital capacity? Be honest with yourself.

Penfailed · 25-09-2020 10:04PM

Dtp1979 wrote: »

It’s probably been asked a thousand times but what is the closing times of the pubs now that all pubs are back open?

11:30pm

road_high · 25-09-2020 10:22PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Cool, then what?

Nothing. Round and round in the same circles of ****e as now. Time people accepted this virus is out there- it’s the natural world. A vaccine is out only realistic defence. At that only partially so, at best. The rest is just optics and political fluff

Dickie10 · 25-09-2020 10:45PM

So I was just wondering when do people think this will all end , like when will we begin each news round without covid 19 being first item? when will it start to drift off front pages ? basically i cant see us being or doing anything much different a year from today, still restrictions from covid , lockdown to lockdown around the country, nobody at sports events, colleges teaching remote, schools prob on 3 day weeks along with remote. Can anyone really see anything changeing in 12 mmonths? can sports bodies cope with no crowds for another year? pubs opening and shutting sporadically. xmas near enough cancelled etc.

road_high · 25-09-2020 10:52PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

So I was just wondering when do people think this will all end , like when will we begin each news round without covid 19 being first item? when will it start to drift off front pages ? basically i cant see us being or doing anything much different a year from today, still restrictions from covid , lockdown to lockdown around the country, nobody at sports events, colleges teaching remote, schools prob on 3 day weeks along with remote. Can anyone really see anything changeing in 12 mmonths? can sports bodies cope with no crowds for another year? pubs opening and shutting sporadically. xmas near enough cancelled etc.

As things are there is no end in sight. Even with a vaccine I believe. There’ll have to be a massive re-check on the strategy. Possibly take some massive cuts in public expenditure to catalyst that sea change unfortunately. As things stand this craziness will keep spinning around like a dog tail

CalamariFritti · 25-09-2020 10:53PM

No way that will be happening. There is only so much money printing you can do before the whole thing goes tits up.

road_high · 25-09-2020 10:56PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

No way that will be happening. There is only so much money printing you can do before the whole thing goes tits up.

I did think that...but here we are almost 8 months in...and it’s like Groundhog Day

NIMAN · 25-09-2020 10:57PM

Well tickets are on sale for Little Mix at the 3 Arena in March i think, so should be grand by then.

NIMAN · 25-09-2020 10:58PM

road_high wrote: »

I did think that...but here we are almost 8 months in...and it’s like Groundhog Day

And it's cost 30bn in a deficit.

If it lasts another year, we are ruined.....but we won't be alone, the rest of the world will be broke too.

CalamariFritti · 25-09-2020 11:01PM

And then we print more money and then your 75k salary will buy you 3 breads and a carton of eggs? Exaggerating (hopefully) but something's gotta give...

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings