Beggars knocking on front doors

Two Mormons rocked up to my door one time. “I bet you never seen two guys like us before”. Actually yes I have ye must all come out of the same mould. I offered them tea but they declined.

I also had a Jehovah’s Witness. Although I called her Jehovah Fitness. The wife was not impressed when she came home from town and I was talking shíte with her.

kenmc wrote: »

BS. Why do they think it's ok to knock on someone's door to try sell them something they haven't requested? The person could be sick in bed, sleeping after a night shift, just after settling a baby for a nap or what not. If anyone wants to switch provider, there's several ways to do so at their convenience - internet of course primarily, but also stands in shopping centre, advertising etc not to mention junk mail.

There's absolutely no excuse for disturbing people in their own home. You don't see them providing their own home address or personal phone number to allow prospective customers to call over to their place whenever the notion takes them.

Shower of cnuts.

I suppose it's doing what you need to survive.

There are people who would rob the eye out of your head, so people doing door to door to keep going dont bother me.

I'm old school and every thing from carpets to vegetables to the pools was door to door, so I dont have an issue with it, once people are polite.

I don't see the need for calling them cnuts. It could be someone trying to find their way. I'm lucky to have never had to do door to door, but I've done sales along the way and will always treat others doing that role as individuals and with respect.

Happened in the 80's around Tallaght a lot, we'd either egg them or set them on fire whichever was handiest

Pkiernan wrote: »

It doesn't add any security to your house. If you want to feel otherwise, go ahead and keep on dreaming.
They don't t prevent anyone entering your property.


Strong, less pickable locks and guard dogs are more effective

Not sure that you quite understand the "tin hat " reference, but then again you're not as smart as me.

It does quite simply. It makes your house more secure because it is a deterrent.

If I have Mercedes AMG in my driveway, a 64 inch TV on my wall, a lot of silverware all viewable, my neighbor has similar... I have an alarm, cctv, the neighbor doesn’t... which house will the burglar try hit ???

Yes, my neighbors house, the cameras willhave done their job as a deterrent. It might also do the job of gathering evidence for my neighbor... which if the scumbag is caught, convicted and sentenced courtesy of the camera... word gets around the criminal fraternity... “fûck... down in Kenwood Grove they got CCTV, yeah be giving that place a wide berth”.

Cameras systems are now cheap enough, you can get your house rigged up for about 1400 give or take. I went for HD which is unreal quality, you could read the headlines of someone’s paper walking past it's that clear.

The price of the technology has come down, its now more accessible for people but the quality has gone up. I can see all the cameras on iPad, smartphone AND smart tv....

They are casing the joint or they are maybe under the influence of drugs.
The city centre is quite busy, pubs are open, cafes are open.
We have a good welfare system , there's no good reason to be knocking on doors asking for money. People give money to beggars in the city centre maybe because they might be homeless.
All the beggars I see are young , in thier 20s.
I get people just walking up to me asking for a euro.

riclad wrote: »

Unless you live in a mansion you don't need to install camera, s install an alarm system if you feel worried.

But what is the difference between a mansion and an ordinary house in terms of CCTV ? I might not have 100,000 under the floorboards or a collection of jewelry but the possessions I have I’ve had to work damn hard for. My safety, peace of mind and security is something I covet and enjoy too.. guitars, family heirlooms, all my Dads paintings and wood art mean a lot... I intend to keep and enjoy everything. For the price of the purchase and installation, well worth it.

riclad wrote: »

Unless you live in a mansion you don't need to install camera, s install an alarm system if you feel worried.

Nope, the need to have an alarm was back 20 plus years ago, so you are running a fair bit behind.

I remember this back in the 90´s

Travellers looking for milk, sugar, butter, etc

We were always told while you were at the front door a youngster was around the back scoping your house and taking bicycles from your back lawn but well we never got robbed

Hadn't heard of it since, here we are in 2020

Feisar wrote: »

I also had a Jehovah’s Witness. Although I called her Jehovah Fitness. The wife was not impressed when she came home from town and I was talking shíte with her.

You had 0% chance there Even if you converted for her she would choose a long time pioneer/missionary over you

anewme wrote: »

Nope, the need to have an alarm was back 20 plus years ago, so you are running a fair bit behind.

You need both really or at least both are a good to have / great to have.

If you are having a week away somewhere and a desperate mong wants to break in, believes you have valuables and cash... the CCTV should be a deterrent, definitely be an evidence gatherer.

The alarm will be a deterrent too and will alert neighbors, Gardai.

I have never had 1 person knocking on my door asking for a euro in the last 30 years
Every week someone asks me for money on the street.
I think it's weird to knock on a door asking for money,
Even homeless people are receiving welfare payments, there's free soup kitchens free food all around the city centre . There's no one in Ireland starving.
The point of the alarm system is it puts people off trying to break in
A potential burglar will not know you have cameras installed before he breaks in unless they are on the walls outside

Would it not be more effective to have an alarm that has a sim card it sends a txt or email to your phone or it has an app that tells you if it has gone off. It uses the 3g network to txt or email you.
See homesecure. ie
This is not an ad I just googled 3g alarm ie

riclad wrote: »

Would it not be more effective to have an alarm that has a sim card it sends a txt or email to your phone or it has an app that tells you if it has gone off. It uses the 3g network to txt or email you.
See homesecure. ie
This is not an ad I just googled 3g alarm ie

If you have alarm AND camera, you get notified if there is an issue AND you can see on your phone what’s happening, why the alarm is going off...

App will say : kitchen door

You can see that the kitchen door has been jammied open, you don’t need to be alternating between cameras, just call the Gardai.

If he gets away there is video evidence of some sort.

Nigel Fairservice wrote: »

I do the same myself with the doorbell. I don't want to spend 10 minutes on the doorstep fending off someone from a marketing company trying to sign me up for electricity.

I just say, no thanks, Im in a contract already anything from 1-2 yrs and I just started it, usually they make some suggestion about contacting them when the contract is finished, I watch them leave, end of, whats annoying is when you cant answer and they keep coming back or persistently ring the doorbell, Ive bollocked some out of it following night shift and the doorbell is disconnected.

Strumms wrote: »

I live in a decent area but there have been one or more two burglaries, certainly a couple more than you be used to hearing about word gets around via the residents association Facebook and WhatsApp ... one thing too that’s been noticed is the regularity of vans that seem to be of the habit of driving around the estate, early evening, at relatively slow speed... occupants seemingly casually casing houses and cars....

The beggars are often doing this too. Getting an up close and personal appreciation of who is around, who might be vulnerable by calling to your front door, it’s been happening too with reasonable regularity.

A car in the cul de sac was attempted to be stolen last week, window smashed but the lads got away without taking the car.. due to a quick thinking neighbor who disturbed them.

The van, a green Toyota hiace according to the witnesses is linked to a criminal gang.

Fools giving them a reason to keep coming back by giving them anything or buying crap off them, there may be a few genuine cases, hadn't come across it since the 80's, but its wide open to give them an excuse to scope out places.
A few years back some guy waved me down in a retail carpark, I thought lookign for help, asked if he needed a push or a jumpstart, he said No, he needed €20 for petrol, promptly told him to fcuk off, I may have suggested I was calling the Gardai (not that it would do any good) just so he wouldnt bother anyone else with his scam. I felt he could have quickly turned aggressive, getting annoyed I preempted that myself, but others might be intimidated into giving assistance.

Feisar wrote: »

Same reasoning applies to locking the door. It’s the illusion of security.

so just leave it unlocked and wide open?

Feisar wrote: »

Two Mormons rocked up to my door one time. “I bet you never seen two guys like us before”. Actually yes I have ye must all come out of the same mould. I offered them tea but they declined.

I also had a Jehovah’s Witness. Although I called her Jehovah Fitness. The wife was not impressed when she came home from town and I was talking shíte with her.

I used to just turn them away, but if Im in the mood for a wind up or a laugh, I question them on stuff they come up with, did not get any hotties turning up, I didnt know there were any, I might join up for a stint if so , that said we agreed that commercialism is ruining the earth, from what I recal, they might believe in some kind of rapture type scenario, I scoffed at some of their ideas though, I think they knew they couldnt save my soul/harvest it when they are backing away down the driveway.

anewme wrote: »

I suppose it's doing what you need to survive.
There are people who would rob the eye out of your head, so people doing door to door to keep going dont bother me.

I'm old school and every thing from carpets to vegetables to the pools was door to door, so I dont have an issue with it, once people are polite.

I don't see the need for calling them cnuts. It could be someone trying to find their way. I'm lucky to have never had to do door to door, but I've done sales along the way and will always treat others doing that role as individuals and with respect.

bollocks, they are doing at the expense of vulnerable people,

Strumms wrote: »

If you have alarm AND camera, you get notified if there is an issue AND you can see on your phone what’s happening, why the alarm is going off...

App will say : kitchen door

You can see that the kitchen door has been jammied open, you don’t need to be alternating between cameras, just call the Gardai.

If he gets away there is video evidence of some sort.

what system are you using? pm? app/s?
Ive some cctv up and a doorbell camera, dont want to tempt fate but I think if people see it, they might think twice as they know they might be identified, in reality, my system doesnt sound as good quality as what you're saying, I couldnt read number plates, I bought as a bundle from a place that provides security equipment, its BNC cables and power supples to each camera though.

boys will be boys, terrible upbringing, an apology and underlying mental issues/disorders will save any criminal in this country

'he's/she's a nice harmless grand fella/girl'

Not a fan of answering the door unless i get a text/message saying 'im outside' or if its family who have keys. If i ordered something id rather collect it at the store/take away instead of having the door almost been knocked down at 7am etc