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McMurphy · 18-09-2020 08:06AM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

So you agree people have personal responsibility?

Maybe you want the thread full of everyone posting the same thing 20 times just because you are, well lets just say "not the brighest spark".

So for you and your buddy who is cowering away on another thread. Please provide a link to any media source confirming the government has banned "personal responsibility".

I will wait with my popcorn. I dont need a page long answer of bulls**t either. Just the answer to that question. I don't need one of the other regulars jumping in with some other stupid statement.

Off you go, see you soon

I've already posted a link as to how the govt legislated to enable the guards to enforce certain measures during lockdown because there's always going to be a certain element within society who prove they cannot be entrusted with personal responsibility, hence the legislation (this really isn't difficult to understand, but you seem intent on contradicting that)

You're on record here of stating that the govt didn't make it illegal for county to county travel, I've posted numerous examples of how they actually did do that - and there's plenty of examples and stats available to back up fines being imposed, and people being arrested.

Try arresting or fining people for something that's perfectly legal, and let me know how that works out.

I'm not entertaining any of your other twaddle, of course they didn't remove every single aspect of personal responsibility from people, like people don't need legislation to know bringing the microwave into the bath isn't the most clever or responsible thing you could do.

However, people have proved that they cannot be trusted to "be personally responsible" during a pandemic, and to not make unnecessary journeys to go to holiday homes/buy puppies or go sight seeing etc. That's why they made legal restrictions, a fact you seem to have difficulty getting your head around.

Are you going to correct yourself, about the govt not making certain travel restrictions during lockdown, and how breaking them in certain conditions was in fact "illegal" or are you going to continue to put your head in the sand pretend it didn't happen, and allow me to have fun with you today?

18-09-2020 08:16AM

Bowie wrote: »

Can they send a health inspector? Ffs...
If a pub opened it would be raided and rightly so.
Something ****ing stinks.

No need. The outbreak has been brought under control.

Redgirl82 · 18-09-2020 08:24AM

McMurphy wrote: »

I've already posted a link as to how the govt legislated to enable the guards to enforce certain measures during lockdown because there's always going to be a certain element within society who prove they cannot be entrusted with personal responsibility, hence the legislation (this really isn't difficult to understand, but you seem intent on contradicting that)

You're on record here of stating that the govt didn't make it illegal for county to county travel, I've posted numerous examples of how they actually did do that - and there's plenty of examples and stats available to back up fines being imposed, and people being arrested.

Try arresting or fining people for something that's perfectly legal, and let me know how that works out.

I'm not entertaining any of your other twaddle, of course they didn't remove every single aspect of personal responsibility from people, like people don't need legislation to know bringing the microwave into the bath isn't the most clever or responsible thing you could do.

However, people have proved that they cannot be trusted to "be personally responsible" during a pandemic, and to not make unnecessary journeys to go to holiday homes/buy puppies or go sight seeing etc. That's why they made legal restrictions, a fact you seem to have difficulty getting your head around.

Are you going to correct yourself, about the govt not making certain travel restrictions during lockdown, and how breaking them in certain conditions was in fact "illegal" or are you going to continue to put your head in the sand pretend it didn't happen, and allow me to have fun with you today?

Thank you, so it only took you and the other lad how many posts to final agree I was 100% right.

P.S. I don't need to correct anything, I never made that point, if you read the posts or got a proper update from the other lad you would know that.

Hawthorn Tree · 18-09-2020 09:08AM

The government roll out the new 'plan' on the day that we hit the highest cases since May (357, 218 Dublin) and tell Dublin that they are Level 2 (or 2.5) along with the rest of Ireland.
2 days they are talking about Level 3, 3.5 and even 4. FFG were afraid to tell the truth. There will be massive anger if they close the Dublin restaurants today. The coalition of chaos have caused utter confusion again.

I am looking forward to a weekend of talk radio and newspapers.

ExMachina1000 · 18-09-2020 09:11AM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

The government roll out the new 'plan' on the day that we hit the highest cases since May (357, 218 Dublin) and tell Dublin that they are Level 2 (or 2.5) along with the rest of Ireland.
2 days they are talking about Level 3, 3.5 and even 4. FFG were afraid to tell the truth. There will be massive anger if they close the Dublin restaurants today. The coalition of chaos have caused utter confusion again.

I am looking forward to a weekend of talk radio and newspapers.

Ah sure we all partied.

Redgirl82 · 18-09-2020 09:11AM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

The government roll out the new 'plan' on the day that we hit the highest cases since May (357, 218 Dublin) and tell Dublin that they are Level 2 (or 2.5) along with the rest of Ireland.
2 days they are talking about Level 3, 3.5 and even 4. FFG were afraid to tell the truth. There will be massive anger if they close the Dublin restaurants today. The coalition of chaos have caused utter confusion again.

I am looking forward to a weekend of talk radio and newspapers.

I personally look forward to a weekend with friends and family.

Each to their own

Brendan Bendar · 18-09-2020 09:12AM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

Thank you, so it only took you and the other lad how many posts to final agree I was 100% right.

P.S. I don't need to correct anything, I never made that point, if you read the posts or got a proper update from the other lad you would know that.

Lot of mud slinging Redser, from these lads until late into the night.

The tactic.

Keep firing the mud and hope some of it however vacuous will stick.

I don’t know which shift is on this morning but best bring your packed lunch with you, lot of anger out there......

FrancieBrady · 18-09-2020 09:14AM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

The government roll out the new 'plan' on the day that we hit the highest cases since May (357, 218 Dublin) and tell Dublin that they are Level 2 (or 2.5) along with the rest of Ireland.
2 days they are talking about Level 3, 3.5 and even 4. FFG were afraid to tell the truth. There will be massive anger if they close the Dublin restaurants today. The coalition of chaos have caused utter confusion again.

I am looking forward to a weekend of talk radio and newspapers.

I didn't think I could be shocked by these guys anymore but the way they have treated people this week has been just that - shocking. They will throw the country into chaos as well as themselves navigating a way out of this. This restaurant owner will not be the first to express their anger.

https://twitter.com/colmkeane/status/1306857494678056961

Redgirl82 · 18-09-2020 09:15AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Lot of mud slinging Redser, from these lads until late into the night.

The tactic.

Keep firing the mud and hope some of it however vacuous will stick.

I don’t know which shift is on this morning but best bring your packed lunch with you, lot of anger out there......

I have previous with these lads. I am well aware of the tactics they use. One makes a stupid statement, suddenly one of the others jump in and take on the batton with a completely different topic.

Imagine not one but two of them spend a considerable amount of time yesterday and then this morning trying to argue that the government had banned personal responsibiliy. Baffling stupidity

smurgen · 18-09-2020 09:16AM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

I personally look forward to a weekend with friends and family.

Each to their own

Really? Statically the community transmissions is more dangerous. You'd want to take personal responsibility and stay away from friends and family.

Brendan Bendar · 18-09-2020 09:19AM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

I have previous with these lads. I am well aware of the tactics they use. One makes a stupid statement, suddenly one of the others jump in and take on the batton with a completely different topic.

Imagine not one but two of them spend a considerable amount of time yesterday and then this morning trying to argue that the government had banned personal responsibiliy. Baffling stupidity

Ok Redser, so you know the tactic, well done, you described the m.o. perfectly.

You are obviously well equipped to counter their garbage.

Have a good day.

Hawthorn Tree · 18-09-2020 09:19AM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

I personally look forward to a weekend with friends and family.

Each to their own

Yes indeed I believe the government are encouraging more and more house parties instead of meals/socialising in controlled environments. It's a hard to tell what they are pushing now.

The radio presenters are extremely agitated about the government this morning. I dont think the public are as frustrated - I think they have written off the coalition of Chaos already. Is this Day 83 of this runaway train?

atticu · 18-09-2020 09:27AM

smurgen wrote: »

Really? Statically the community transmissions is more dangerous. You'd want to take personal responsibility and stay away from friends and family.

You obviously have not heard of WhatsApp, text messages, Skype or Zoom.

You mind will probably explode if I try and explain FaceTime to you.

FrancieBrady · 18-09-2020 09:30AM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Ok Redser, so you know the tactic, well done, you described the m.o. perfectly.

You are obviously well equipped to counter their garbage.

Have a good day.

Two posts now this AM and not a single word about the topics being discussed, just rather pathetic attempts to flame the thread and shut down those discussions.

smurgen · 18-09-2020 09:32AM

atticu wrote: »

You obviously have not heard of WhatsApp, text messages, Skype or Zoom.

You mind will probably explode if I try and explain FaceTime to you.

Forget to switch accounts when replying?

Redgirl82 · 18-09-2020 09:41AM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Yes indeed I believe the government are encouraging more and more house parties instead of meals/socialising in controlled environments. It's a hard to tell what they are pushing now.

The radio presenters are extremely agitated about the government this morning. I dont think the public are as frustrated - I think they have written off the coalition of Chaos already. Is this Day 83 of this runaway train?

How is spending time with friends and family a house party?

Radio presenters are some sort of guide now? Was this Lotty Ryan you listened to?

Redgirl82 · 18-09-2020 09:43AM

smurgen wrote: »

Really? Statically the community transmissions is more dangerous. You'd want to take personal responsibility and stay away from friends and family.

Bit rich you trying to get on a high horse and you didn’t even understand the phrase yesterday

smurgen · 18-09-2020 09:48AM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

How is spending time with friends and family a house party?

Radio presenters are some sort of guide now? Was this Lotty Ryan you listened to?

As someone who was offering lectures in personal responsibility yesterday you seem utterly clueless. If everyone as uninformed and confused as you appear exercises their personal responsibility we're screwed.based upon your demonstrable lack of knowledge it shows the government need for proper intervention even more so.

Hawthorn Tree · 18-09-2020 09:51AM

I find the anger level is proportionate to the level of chaos the new FFG government is causing.

I would say we are at Level 4 right now. All hands on deck to deflect...

Fann Linn · 18-09-2020 09:54AM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

Bit rich you trying to get on a high horse and you didn’t even understand the phrase yesterday

You could apply personal responsibility to speeding in traffic, paying your bus fare, jaywalking, clocking into work on time, bringing your kids to school etc but it still requires other measures to ensure the above things happen.
Same applies to Covid.

Hawthorn Tree · 18-09-2020 09:54AM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

How is spending time with friends and family a house party?

Radio presenters are some sort of guide now? Was this Lotty Ryan you listened to?

Level 3
Am I allowed to have social or family gatherings?
You are allowed visitors from one other household only in your home or garden. No social or family gatherings should take place in other settings.

FrancieBrady · 18-09-2020 09:55AM

Fann Linn wrote: »

You could apply personal responsibility to speeding in traffic, paying your bus fare, jaywalking, clocking into work on time, bringing your kids to school etc but it still requires other measures to ensure the above things happen.
Same applies to Covid.

People have been trying to tell Redgirl and others that all day and evening yesterday...penny hasn't dropped yet.

smurgen · 18-09-2020 10:00AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

People have been trying to tell Redgirl and others that all day and evening yesterday...penny hasn't dropped yet.

People like Redgirl are the reason why peanut packets have a contains nuts warning written on them.

Hawthorn Tree · 18-09-2020 10:01AM

Ah go easy lads, she is good fun to be fair. It's only politics.

smurgen · 18-09-2020 10:09AM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Ah go easy lads, she is good fun to be fair. It's only politics.

Ya it's just our health and safety.

Redgirl82 · 18-09-2020 10:14AM

smurgen wrote: »

People like Redgirl are the reason why peanut packets have a contains nuts warning written on them.

Redgirl82 · 18-09-2020 10:18AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

People have been trying to tell Redgirl and others that all day and evening yesterday...penny hasn't dropped yet.

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Ah go easy lads, she is good fun to be fair. It's only politics.

smurgen wrote: »

Ya it's just our health and safety.

Seems like I touched a nerve with the (y)locals.

It seems the other one has run for the hills after admitting his mistake.

Hawthorn Tree · 18-09-2020 10:22AM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

Seems like I touched a nerve with the (y)locals.

It seems the other one has run for the hills after admitting his mistake.

ok then, good to have you back Redser a chara as BB would say. You are getting more like him with every day

Back to the coalition of chaos and your Level 3 house parties then...:pac:

FrancieBrady · 18-09-2020 10:23AM

Redgirl82 wrote: »

So far you have yet to confirm if you understand what personal responsibility is, I think it is a waste of time talking to someone who clearly lacks a proper education.

P.S. If is not the governments fault if you didnt get a proper education before you start down that rabbit hole

Now the patronising invective.

Redgirl82 · 18-09-2020 11:09AM

This is flying around social media and watsapp so not sure if valid but friend says it is

"collected lads in his car,played the match,sitting in dressing room,dropped them home and then told them he tested positive!"
"HartstownHuntstown played them last night "

That's a perfect example of personal responsibility. I have no idea how any government can combat someone who would go that. Unless people are asking for this person to then get prosecuted?

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