Is it time for a Dublin lockdown?

Assetbacked · 17-09-2020 08:25PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Well hope you all went out for your last family meal at a Restaurant/pub already this weekend just gone?

NPHET are going to close them: https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0917/1165889-dublin-restaurants-cabinet-nphet/

In that article, cases are apparently rising 5 times faster among healthcare workers. Obviously they're still quiet, sitting around sharing Deliveroo and showing each other tik toks just like the early days of lockdown it seems.

Tork · 17-09-2020 08:27PM

Proof?

alentejo · 17-09-2020 08:27PM

Dublin is the only major European city where pubs have not opened since the pandemic. Now additional restrictions so Dublin so in essence, the only major European city were you cant eat indoors even though our Covid levels are less than many other euro cities.

Very depressing!

douglashyde · 17-09-2020 08:28PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Well hope you all went out for your last family meal at a Restaurant/pub already this weekend just gone?

NPHET are going to close them: https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0917/1165889-dublin-restaurants-cabinet-nphet/

imo, if they want to reduce cases this is probably the way to go about it.

However cases are not the issue. It's deaths. However deaths are not there. Those there are high risk/old to begin with.

I actually think this is for the greater good..... Imo this will push group thinking as a society (and govt) towards are more sensible 'living with the virus' approach.

John_Rambo · 17-09-2020 08:29PM

expectationlost wrote: »

golfing trip ! The Bridge House Hotel in Tullamore confirmed the closure this evening after it was revealed that up to 20 people who had stayed there last week contracted the virus.
https://www.offalyexpress.ie/news/home/574785/offaly-hotel-at-centre-of-covid-19-outbreak-closes-temporarily.html#.X2O9bdiuUYo.twitter

lets holiday in a town with a meat plant?

Jaysus. Golfing outings aren't exactly coming out smelling of roses lately.

Dublinandy3 · 17-09-2020 08:57PM

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

So even when it goes to L3 (or 4) you can't actually be stopped going where you like?

I’d like to know this also. If I’m driving and the police checkpoint stop me if I wanted to could I carry on without repercussions?

anais · 17-09-2020 08:59PM

Well, you should see a teacher in Primary... We have our own masks but that's it as far as PpE is concerned. I wish I were in Sweden, at least it would be a whole country approach. 'No more than 6 people from 2 households'. Yet I'm sharing a tiny room with 28 different households represented, for more than 5hrs a day. Windows and door open all day. Kids in 'groups' aka ' pods' but all breathing the same air, all day. All play together outside. Feels like we're on a different planet in some bizarre social experiment. If a positive test arises, only the Pod People are considered 'close contacts'. The rest of us won't even be informed officially. But I think I'll notice if an entire group of kids are MIA tomorrow. My life just doesn't matter, it seems.

thebaz · 17-09-2020 09:00PM

Fianna Fail bankrupt the country last time in power, won't take long to do something similar this time - they should never have got back into power, yet everyone said it would be different - I was critical of Leo last term, but Martin is just out of his depth .

expectationlost · 17-09-2020 09:08PM

people criticising what Martin is doing and praising Leo for doing the same thing in the spring.

average_runner · 17-09-2020 09:11PM

expectationlost wrote: »

people criticising what Martin is doing and praising Leo for doing the same thing in the spring.

Difference last spring was that we didnt know much about the virus, now we know loads and going backwards.

Restaurants not causing any cases so they want to shut them down, houses showing main reason for rise in cases and we are pushing more people indoors.

Idiots running the asylum.

expectationlost · 17-09-2020 09:15PM

so what else can the gov do to stop private home outbreaks? (non-sarcastic answers please)

Zillah · 17-09-2020 09:16PM

expectationlost wrote: »

people criticising what Martin is doing and praising Leo for doing the same thing in the spring.

At least Leo was fairly clear on what restrictions were in place.

average_runner · 17-09-2020 09:17PM

expectationlost wrote: »

so what else can the gov do to stop private home outbreaks?

Encourage more house parties?

expectationlost · 17-09-2020 09:18PM

Zillah wrote: »

At least Leo was fairly clear on what restrictions were in place.

telling everyone to stay at home was a simpler task.

expectationlost · 17-09-2020 09:19PM

average_runner wrote: »

Encourage more house parties?

presuming thats sarcasm do the type of people who have house parties these days go to restaurants?

thebaz · 17-09-2020 09:20PM

expectationlost wrote: »

people criticising what Martin is doing and praising Leo for doing the same thing in the spring.

The death rate feared was much higher back them , we've had 6 months to get hospitals prepared - We get a daliy report of number of cases , and a low number of deaths - Last March looked like we were heading for a huge number of deaths , we wanted to flatten the curve - which the country did , now ther is no warning of trying to flatten a curve , just an increase in daily number of cases , of a virus that we know has a death rate of 0.3 or 0.4

theguzman · 17-09-2020 09:20PM

thebaz wrote: »

Fianna Fail bankrupt the country last time in power, won't take long to do something similar this time - they should never have got back into power, yet everyone said it would be different - I was critical of Leo last term, but Martin is just out of his depth .

The fact that they were not outlawed reflects very sadly on our weakling pathetic society. There is every justification for banning the party and the former cabinet who deliberately bankrupted this country should have been executed for treason. But ah no we have changed, we are sorry etc. Until there is a return to the gold standard and another world war then things will just continue to get worse not better.

Tenzor07 · 17-09-2020 09:21PM

expectationlost wrote: »

so what else can the gov do to stop private home outbreaks?

Open the pubs and give 2 for 1 vouchers for everyone to spend in them...

average_runner · 17-09-2020 09:24PM

expectationlost wrote: »

presuming thats sarcasm do the type of people who have house parties these days go to restaurants?

Hard to believe they do, but the people making recommendations might eat in Burger King at 2am or something.

John_Rambo · 17-09-2020 09:25PM

expectationlost wrote: »

so what else can the gov do to stop private home outbreaks?

I'm not sure. Assuming personal responsibility is historically difficult for some aspects of society in Ireland. Cross media hammering it home is going to have to be done for the people who genuinely don't know any better.

A nationwide address from someone of note is going to have to take place. Maybe Dr. Holohan or the president. I think anyone from FF is going to be ineffectual.

Whilst the cases are dramatically rising it's important to note that thankfully deaths are very low.

expectationlost · 17-09-2020 09:25PM

thebaz wrote: »

The death rate feared was much higher back them , we've had 6 months to get hospitals prepared - We get a daliy report of number of cases , and a low number of deaths - Last March looked like we were heading for a huge number of deaths , we wanted to flatten the curve - which the country did , now ther is no warning of trying to flatten a curve , just an increase in daily number of cases , of a virus that we know has a death rate of 0.3 or 0.4

you want more deaths before we act?

average_runner · 17-09-2020 09:27PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Open the pubs and give 2 for 1 vouchers for everyone to spend in them...

Not sure opening pubs will solve the problem, but wont make it worst

average_runner · 17-09-2020 09:29PM

expectationlost wrote: »

you want more deaths before we act?

So we shut the economy down over something that might not happen?

expectationlost · 17-09-2020 09:30PM

average_runner wrote: »

So we shut the economy down over something that might not happen?

to prevent deaths yes

thebaz · 17-09-2020 09:30PM

expectationlost wrote: »

you want more deaths before we act?

Of course not, but I also want a majority to be able to live some form of healthy balanced form of life. I'm not young, but I really feal for the under 30's , they need to live too.

expectationlost · 17-09-2020 09:36PM

will there be police checkpoints again, much harder to do now

imme · 17-09-2020 09:37PM

If as predicted goes ahead tomorrow : restaurants closed for sit down meals but people can go ahead with their house parties and block parties the headline will have to be:

"SCUM WINS AGAIN"

franglan · 17-09-2020 09:40PM

Are we looking at two weeks enhanced restrictions minimum?

17-09-2020 09:41PM

expectationlost wrote: »

will there be police checkpoints again, much harder to do now

On the roads in and out of Dublin? There probably will but nobody knows if they'll be enforceable or just advisement.

John_Rambo · 17-09-2020 09:41PM

expectationlost wrote: »

will there be police checkpoints again, much harder to do now

Still easy enough for a few neighbours to have a get together. Very hard to police and further encouragement for the curtain twitchers and time wasters.

Is it time for a Dublin lockdown?

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