Is it time for a Dublin lockdown?

road_high · 17-09-2020 06:20PM

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Not until 4 as far as I can see. 3 is work from home unless you can't, and 4 is essential only.

lol. Do you think these utter donkeys have a budget for another lash of massive Covid payments to cover all these sectors? That ship has sailed long ago

17-09-2020 06:23PM

road_high wrote: »

lol. Do you think these utter donkeys have a budget for another lash of massive Covid payments to cover all these sectors? That ship has sailed long ago

That'll be one of the main reasons it'll always be 3 point something and never 4.

SEPT 23 1989 · 17-09-2020 06:23PM

Construction won't stop

All major sites will be deemed essential

Pinoy adventure · 17-09-2020 06:26PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Construction won't stop

All major sites will be deemed essential

How about schools ?

road_high · 17-09-2020 06:26PM

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

That'll be one of the main reasons it'll always be 3 point something and never 4.

Absolutely. You’re in to much higher paid people too who won’t tolerate being put on €300 per week to do nothing again

17-09-2020 06:28PM

Pinoy adventure wrote: »

How about schools ?

Open no matter what at all levels. The 4 horsemen of the apocalypse could arrive and they're not closing schools.

Charles Babbage · 17-09-2020 06:55PM

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Open no matter what at all levels. The 4 horsemen of the apocalypse could arrive and they're not closing schools.

However, they should consider 50% alternate days/weeks for secondary ones.

sabat · 17-09-2020 06:58PM

Charles Babbage wrote: »

The economy has not collapsed, Ireland has one of the least declines in Europe. Most things are up and running. Some more economic activity could still be added if people acted responsibly, but some people seem determined not to.

douglashyde · 17-09-2020 07:01PM

JimmyVik wrote: »

How many deaths so far in Sweden?

5,800 < or 581 per per million.

Similar to Irish numbers deaths are massively concentrated in the old and those with significant underlying health conditions.

The health of everyone needs to be considered (mental, physical and all other ailments). People's jobs needs to be considered - Restaurants seeing cancelations enmasse.

I'm not saying Sweden has a perfect model, but as time goes on, seems to be a lot more sensible than Ireland's.

HBC08 · 17-09-2020 07:38PM

Amirani wrote: »

This is the same Stephen Donnelly that went to Harvard and worked for McKinsey (almost by definition has a high IQ given their method of interviews/aptitude tests for hiring). What exactly have you done?

Well he must have fallen off a trampoline and hit his head in the interim,hes not coming across as a clever person since he took office.

Tenzor07 · 17-09-2020 07:46PM

I travelled to Brussels a couple of weeks ago, everything open, bars, restaurants, public transport had none of those annoying yellow stickers blocking the seats.. everyone just getting on with life... Masks outdoors in central areas but that's about it...
Much higher case rate than Dublin... Much less restrictions than the Level 3 NPHET will put us under....
Brussels is living with the Virus... Ireland is still trying to suppress it...

Tenzor07 · 17-09-2020 07:51PM

Dublin City council want to shake the householders for more money... We're being made to pay for the shortfall in things like the non-rates income of €20 million involving fewer parking charges, planning fees and rent payments.

The City is expected to be in a deficit of €39 million for this year..

Anymore disruption to commercial life in the city will push this figure higher and lead to services such as Dublin fire brigade and ambulance services facing cutbacks in 2021 and beyond..

https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2020/0917/1165882-dublin-property-tax/

thebaz · 17-09-2020 07:58PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Brussels is living with the Virus... Ireland is still trying to suppress it...

It so crazy , its like saying Ireland wants to suppress the flu , its a virus that has been unleashed and is probably still in every county in Ireland, the at risk should be cocooned safely , but we must learn to live with it, whether thats through eating better/ Vitamin D / excersise and trying to live some form of nourishing life of sorts (socially distanced).

Tenzor07 · 17-09-2020 07:59PM

Well hope you all went out for your last family meal at a Restaurant/pub already this weekend just gone?

NPHET are going to close them: https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0917/1165889-dublin-restaurants-cabinet-nphet/

expectationlost · 17-09-2020 08:01PM

so NPHET want level 4 in Dublin but gov don't want to call it level 4 https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0917/1165889-dublin-restaurants-cabinet-nphet/

this shows that it should have been level 2 last week level 3 this (and level 4 next week or possibly not)

thebaz · 17-09-2020 08:02PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Well hope you all went out for your last family meal at a Restaurant/pub already this weekend just gone?

NPHET are going to close them: https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0917/1165889-dublin-restaurants-cabinet-nphet/

and we know who ruling the country these days - the unelected NPHET

Tenzor07 · 17-09-2020 08:07PM

expectationlost wrote: »

so NPHET want level 4 in Dublin but gov don't want to call it level 4 https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0917/1165889-dublin-restaurants-cabinet-nphet/

"Level 3 +"

weldoninhio · 17-09-2020 08:08PM

This is an absolute farce!!

odyssey06 · 17-09-2020 08:08PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Well hope you all went out for your last family meal at a Restaurant/pub already this weekend just gone?
NPHET are going to close them: https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0917/1165889-dublin-restaurants-cabinet-nphet/

Already breaking the levels...
Where is the evidence or rationale for how this helps? I thought clusters were in private households.

17-09-2020 08:08PM

expectationlost wrote: »

so NPHET want level 4 in Dublin but gov don't want to call it level 4 https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0917/1165889-dublin-restaurants-cabinet-nphet/

So there's no more wage assistance needed. Slimy bastards.

Tenzor07 · 17-09-2020 08:10PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Already breaking the levels...
Where is the evidence or rationale for how this helps? I thought clusters were in private households.

FFFG-NPHET don't do logic... Close the places where people went out to socialise with Covid health measures in place.. leave them with no where else to go but congregate at home with friends and neighbours... :rolleyes:

StupidLikeAFox · 17-09-2020 08:12PM

thebaz wrote: »

and we know who ruling the country these days - the unelected NPHET

No you have it all wrong - nphet report to the cabinet sub committee who interpret their advice and report to the cabinet who interpret their advice along with the sub committees input and then decide where that fits in to the 5 step framework along with a bit extra if they feel like it *deep breath"

expectationlost · 17-09-2020 08:12PM

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

So there's no more wage assistance needed. Slimy bastards.

is wage assistance based on levels?

wrangler · 17-09-2020 08:13PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Already breaking the levels...
Where is the evidence or rationale for how this helps? I thought clusters were in private households.

40 dubs stayed and socialised around Tullamore last week, 20 have since proved positive. Next week should be interesting in the midlands

17-09-2020 08:13PM

expectationlost wrote: »

is wage assistance based on levels?

Essential work only at 4. Can work away no matter what you do (in work or at home) at 3.

Mysteriouschic · 17-09-2020 08:13PM

Don't understand how we can't live with it as Sweden has managed to . Lockdown is not learning to live with the virus. Since can't keep locking down the country every time cases rise and it could be a long while before there's a vaccine. Alot of people still do recover from the virus but the news don't mention the recovery rates.

17-09-2020 08:15PM

So even when it goes to L3 (or 4) you can't actually be stopped going where you like?

thebaz · 17-09-2020 08:17PM

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

No you have it all wrong - nphet report to the cabinet sub committee who interpret their advice and report to the cabinet who interpret their advice along with the sub committees input and then decide where that fits in to the 5 step framework along with a bit extra if they feel like it *deep breath"

and all these commitees and sub-commitee beaurauctrats on 6 figure fully pensionable salaries dictating how we live , meanwhile I'm more worried about how I'll pay my rent next month.

John_Rambo · 17-09-2020 08:20PM

wrangler wrote: »

40 dubs stayed and socialised around Tullamore last week, 20 have since proved positive. Next week should be interesting in the midlands

40 people travelled to Tullamore of all places?? Who told you that? Was it a wedding?

expectationlost · 17-09-2020 08:22PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

40 people travelled to Tullamore of all places?? Who told you that? Was it a wedding?

golfing trip ! The Bridge House Hotel in Tullamore confirmed the closure this evening after it was revealed that up to 20 people who had stayed there last week contracted the virus.
https://www.offalyexpress.ie/news/home/574785/offaly-hotel-at-centre-of-covid-19-outbreak-closes-temporarily.html#.X2O9bdiuUYo.twitter

lets holiday in a town with a meat plant?

Is it time for a Dublin lockdown?

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