Is it time for a Dublin lockdown?

SEPT 23 1989 · 17-09-2020 01:38PM

Gonzo wrote: »

just heard on Today FM that a level 4 for Dublin is a possibility, we will find out for sure tomorrow.

Well it could have been 4 so be happy with 3

do they think we are fools?

auspicious · 17-09-2020 01:41PM

DangerScouse wrote: »

Unfortunately there are a lot of people with that train of thought. Incredibly selfish and lacking any community spirit or social responsibility. It's not confined to Ireland either btw.

I know of two instances in the North Midlands where a man in close contact with his sister who he knew was sick , went into work, the next town over, and passed the virus to two colleagues.
From the same area a business was closed and workers told to isolate until results obtained but one went out to the pub, two towns away, on Saturday night anyway.
People just aren't listening or doing as they're told.

Eod100 · 17-09-2020 01:42PM

Gonzo wrote: »

just heard on Today FM that a level 4 for Dublin is a possibility, we will find out for sure tomorrow.

If it takes 2/3 weeks for measures to have an impact and the level 3 they're suggesting for Dublin is closer to 4 anyway why not just go to 4 with potential to be brought to 3 after than going to 3 and potentially have to go to 4 after which would be wrose?

Eod100 · 17-09-2020 01:44PM

auspicious wrote: »

I know of two instances in the North Midlands where a man in close contact with his sister who he knew was sick , went into work, the next town over, and passed the virus to two colleagues.
From the same area a business was closed and workers told to isolate until results obtained but one went out to the pub, two towns away, on Saturday night anyway.
People just aren't listening or doing as they're told.

I'm off work at the moment because I'm potential close contact of someone who has been referred for a test. Have to pay gp for sick letter and work might not even pay me for days I've missed but I couldn't take the risk. Some people are idiots.

Hurrache · 17-09-2020 01:45PM

rovers_runner wrote: »

Cheap agency imported labour.
IT/Construction/Cleaning/Healthcare/Deliveries.
The airports are staying open for a reason, the rich aren't getting richer by sitting around and thinking about the health of the nation.....

You're in the running for a job in PR for the Tories, you'll fit right in with their nonsense.

auspicious · 17-09-2020 01:46PM

Eod100 wrote: »

I'm off work at the moment because I'm potential close contact of someone who has been referred for a test. Have to pay gp for sick letter and work might not even pay me for days I've missed but I couldn't take the risk. Some people are idiots.

Sorry mate. Hope you're okay.

Eod100 · 17-09-2020 01:47PM

auspicious wrote: »

Sorry mate. Hope you're okay.

Thanks. I feel fine. Just said I'd do it as a precaution to be extra safe. Bit nervous about the test but think friend was only referred as a precaution too. Better safe than sorry with these things!

rovers_runner · 17-09-2020 01:53PM

Hurrache wrote: »

You're in the running for a job in PR for the Tories, you'll fit right in with their nonsense.

People ask a question, that's my opinion on the source.
Doesn't mean it's racist, or xenophobic.
Movement of people will always happen for cheap labour and it never stopped even in lockdown.
The virus numbers were effectively suppressed in the country mid summer.
Do you think it carries on the air or something?

The only way it has grown again in the country is through it being imported in numbers.

is_that_so · 17-09-2020 01:53PM

Gonzo wrote: »

just heard on Today FM that a level 4 for Dublin is a possibility, we will find out for sure tomorrow.

That's NPHET discussing it, not recommending it.

FionnK86 · 17-09-2020 01:54PM

Just a note on earlier discussed return to education and best of luck keeping them from partying. A pack of students moved in beside us in September 2019 and were quiet until march when presumably they were sent home.

Every Friday/Sat/Sun from Mar - Aug they had massive parties until 4 in morning in very quiet neighbourhood not usually associated with student housing, so we moved out as GF is a nurse on shift and was losing sleep.

The students aren't 'coming back to Dublin', the ones with money to party never left and the ones who have to work don't have time to party.

Charles Babbage · 17-09-2020 01:56PM

polesheep wrote: »

But did it? It could have been that the virus took the weakest and then deaths slowed. We allowed it into the nursing/care homes but now they are protected. It could also have been suppressed due to the vulnerable taking particular care. We don't have good information on case numbers, only hospitalisation numbers, therefore we can never know if the lockdown was effective or coincidental.

The number of deaths could have been reduced by the vulnerable taking care or rather those care for them. However, without a lockdown of some sort the number of cases would have exploded and the end result would have been the same.

is_that_so · 17-09-2020 02:07PM

Charles Babbage wrote: »

The number of deaths could have been reduced by the vulnerable taking care or rather those care for them. However, without a lockdown of some sort the number of cases would have exploded and the end result would have been the same.

Care homes is where most of the deaths came from, not the community.

Hurrache · 17-09-2020 02:08PM

rovers_runner wrote: »

People ask a question, that's my opinion on the source.
Doesn't mean it's racist, or xenophobic.
Movement of people will always happen for cheap labour and it never stopped even in lockdown.
The virus numbers were effectively suppressed in the country mid summer.
Do you think it carries on the air or something?

The only way it has grown again in the country is through it being imported in numbers.

I never said you were racist or xenophobic, just that your 'opinion' is nonsense.

JDD · 17-09-2020 02:13PM

When they say no family or social gatherings but then say you can attend a restaurant or cafe with "additional restrictions", what does that actually mean? I appears I can't have my parents over for dinner - or at least, only one of them at a time - but can I meet them in a restaurant? Can I meet my parents and my brothers in a restaurant or will they restrict tables to one household only?

jojofizzio · 17-09-2020 02:16PM

Was it not the case though,that if Dublin is brought to level 4,the rest of a country would have to be level 3(as you can’t have more than 1 level between 2 parts of the country?)
Don’t ask me for a source,I think I read it one one of the other threads and If I recall it was reported by a journalist...

JDD · 17-09-2020 02:18PM

jojofizzio wrote: »

Was it not the case though,that if Dublin is brought to level 4,the rest of a country would have to be level 3(as you can’t have more than 1 level between 2 parts of the country?)
Don’t ask me for a source,I think I read it one one of the other threads and If I recall it was reported by a journalist...

I think that's right. And there's no way they're going to put the rest of the country under Level 3. This "Dublin might go to level 4" is just kiteflying so that we're actually grateful that we only get a Level 3.

They must think we've never sat through the week before the Budget in our lives.

d15ude · 17-09-2020 02:37PM

rovers_runner wrote: »

People ask a question, that's my opinion on
The virus numbers were effectively suppressed in the country mid summer.
Do you think it carries on the air or something?

Ah yes, I think it "carries on the air".

Antares35 · 17-09-2020 02:45PM

What is level 4 anyway?

17-09-2020 02:50PM

Antares35 wrote: »

What is level 4 anyway?

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/dc29a-level-4/

Antares35 · 17-09-2020 02:53PM

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/dc29a-level-4/

Thanks

Charles Babbage · 17-09-2020 03:26PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Care homes is where most of the deaths came from, not the community.

Do care homes not have staff while live in the community? Do not they get deliveries. Should they not have visitors?

Electric Sheep · 17-09-2020 03:54PM

Lizbeth Numerous Tag wrote: »

You and people like you are the reason covid is spreading like wildfire. You are absolute disgrace. The only thing that would be more entertaining than seeing you in a cell would be seeing you struggle to breathe with covid (once you didn’t spread it to anyone else) caught by your blatant ignorance and refusal to listen to what we are being asked to do to stop spreading the virus.

Don’t go to house party’s, don’t go to 40th birthday’s, don’t go to pubs and especially don’t go down the country to pubs possibly bringing the virus with you. Just stay at home, it’s very easy.

You, your ilk and the anti-maskers etc are the dregs of society and any sh*t that comes your way is well deserved.

Well, you have certainly revealed your true character, not that anyone had any illusions about the sort of person you are.

Poorside · 17-09-2020 03:54PM

jojofizzio wrote: »

Was it not the case though,that if Dublin is brought to level 4,the rest of a country would have to be level 3(as you can’t have more than 1 level between 2 parts of the country?)
Don’t ask me for a source,I think I read it one one of the other threads and If I recall it was reported by a journalist...

That makes no sense, the whole point of the levels is so different areas can have different restrictions.

Eod100 · 17-09-2020 04:15PM

RTE reporting that NPHET have recommended Dublin going into Level 3.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0917/1165665-covid-19-dublin/

Zebra3 · 17-09-2020 04:15PM

Charles Babbage wrote: »

Do care homes not have staff while live in the community? Do not they get deliveries. Should they not have visitors?

My mate's gf works in a care home.

House shares with four others.

Agency she is employed by told her to keep her mouth shut about that while at work.

JimmyVik · 17-09-2020 04:29PM

So Dublin is going to a hybrid of level 3 and 4.
So does that mean anyone living in Dublin who is supposed to be going on a staycation in another county cant go?
Now that would put you off ever booking anything in advance.

_Kaiser_ · 17-09-2020 04:43PM

JimmyVik wrote: »

So Dublin is going to a hybrid of level 3 and 4.
So does that mean anyone living in Dublin who is supposed to be going on a staycation in another county cant go?
Now that would put you off ever booking anything in advance.

So they clearly haven't learned from the "2 and a bit" mess then anyway.

douglashyde · 17-09-2020 04:45PM

Interesting talk by Sweden's Anders Tegnell

https://twitter.com/DaFeid/status/1306562326288650242

Seems obvious but, highly targeted intervention in care homes (which account for 50% of deaths) , careful eye on % loading on ICU bed (while our govt has made slow progress on increasing capacity here). A focus on compliance of physical distancancing / mass gatherings 200+ etc.

What happens if/when the narrative becomes 'Sweden had the right approach' , do we replicate here?

JimmyVik · 17-09-2020 04:47PM

douglashyde wrote: »

Interesting talk by Sweden's Anders Tegnell

https://twitter.com/DaFeid/status/1306562326288650242

Seems obvious but, highly targeted intervention in care homes (which account for 50% of deaths) , careful eye on % loading on ICU bed (while our govt has made slow progress on increasing capacity here). A focus on compliance of physical distancancing / mass gatherings 200+ etc.

What happens if/when the narrative becomes 'Sweden had the right approach' , do we replicate here?

How many deaths so far in Sweden?

is_that_so · 17-09-2020 04:49PM

douglashyde wrote: »

Interesting talk by Sweden's Anders Tegnell

https://twitter.com/DaFeid/status/1306562326288650242

Seems obvious but, highly targeted intervention in care homes (which account for 50% of deaths) , careful eye on % loading on ICU bed (while our govt has made slow progress on increasing capacity here). A focus on compliance of physical distancancing / mass gatherings 200+ etc.

What happens if/when the narrative becomes 'Sweden had the right approach' , do we replicate here?

It will only be the right approach if we move the Swedes wholesale here. There are very specific cultural factors and 40% live alone. They may claim it has worked for them but it's still just one approach of many.

Is it time for a Dublin lockdown?

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